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Rolphing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Oh, that would be the ticket.  But that's a whole other thread...yet perhaps the physical release of some areas that have been one big spasmy spasm of compressed nerves for months and months now would also result in some sort of emotional release, at which point I would launch into a chorus of "You make me feeling like dancing!" and sashay down the street, HEALED physically and emotionally.  So fly down here and git 'er done, kk.


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PT....Sorry I don't have any suggestions to offer ..just wanted to send you some {{{{{hugs}}}}}}

I hope you find a solution that gets you past this temporary life-glitch.




















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Rolphing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Oh, that would be the ticket.  But that's a whole other thread...yet perhaps the physical release of some areas that have been one big spasmy spasm of compressed nerves for months and months now would also result in some sort of emotional release, at which point I would launch into a chorus of "You make me feeling like dancing!" and sashay down the street, HEALED physically and emotionally.  So fly down here and git 'er done, kk.


"Rolfing®" can bring out the deep seated emotions too.  Bring them to the surface; clear them.  It's not for everybody.

It's one of the areas that Heller brought out, when he branched off of Rolf's core work and developed "his method," HELLERWORK...which is basically Rolfing with the practitioner talking the client through the emotions that are brought up.

Your "one on one" issues are stored in our second chakra (hips, thighs, low back and reproductive organs). Any issue having to do with money, sex, power.  Feeling powerless, needing sexual power, etc.  Your finances are not really in the bank, they are in your low back.


Knowledge is power.  SWAMI gives you the diet that will unlock the key to better health, and it's all based on your unique individuality.
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Your finances are not really in the bank, they are in your low back.


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and the Ruiz modalities might fit in here too

be impaccable with your words
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always do your best
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PT, I haven't gone through this thread properly, maybe it was already mentioned here:

My personal experience: Dr. D's Gatherer's trio!!!

Activator, Catalyst, Synergist.

I forgot all about it, until I've taken activator and catalyst just now. Even before actually taking them, my mood already brightens up. The body already knows what's waiting for it.


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PT....Sorry I don't have any suggestions to offer ..just wanted to send you some {{{{{hugs}}}}}}

I hope you find a solution that gets you past this temporary life-glitch.


Thanks, Chloe, I appreciate that a lot.  It's funny (life, that is), but the emotional situation I allude to in this thread has now been totally eclipsed by issues surrounding my mom's aging coming to the fore.  I was a complete basket case yesterday over it.  My worst fears in life are her aging and life and death issues around that, and dealing with my sister (who is a ball of resentment, basically) about it all.  But last night, after two sleepless nights and a very raw, emotional, teary day yesterday and the evening before, I realized something:  my mom and I had a good talk last night and I realized that, once we DO face things and update her will and meet with a lawyer and make some decisions, maybe--just maybe--I will actually feel BETTER than I have in years and years re my fears about all this.  Because, my boss (Cruella, of all people!!!!!!!!!!!) said something really, really important yesterday that I really, really heard and hit home.  I was in her office, in tears, re that I would need a long lunch to get a certain item for my mom and that I will be needing to take some time in upcoming weeks for certain appointments with her, etc., including with an elder law attorney, per the recommendation of a social worker evaluating her at the behest of her eye doctor.  Cru said it is vital that I get her ...whatever the terms are:  that I get designated as the one on her living will, etc.  I said that, years (decades) ago, my mom asked me and I expressed fear that my sister would resent it if I were the one making the decisions, so my mom decided to put her cousin on there instead.  Weirdly enough, while my mom and I were living in MD at the time and her cousin in NY (and my sister in Chicago), now my mom, me and my mom's cousin are all in the same city in FL--so her cousin is still a practical choice, EXCEPT she is no spring chicken herself, and she is away traveling a lot.  So I said that I should probably offer to do it, but I'm scared because my sister will resent me making the decisions.  So then Cru said:  "Edna, you won't be the one making the decisions.  You will be executing the decisions THAT YOUR MOTHER MAKES."  And it hit me:  omg, that is true.  And anybody (including my sister) who doesn't like that, can go straight to rhymes-with-swell.

So I talked to my mom last night and I said that, I want her to know that it has been decades since she asked me and, back then, I was a young, quaking ball of fear re my sister, and even though I'm still somewhat of a ball of fear re my sister (possibly sans the quaking), I will do it ANYWAY, if she wants me to.  All that matters is what SHE wants, and let the chips fall where they may.  She said, well, I appreciate that, but I still want Ginny (the cousin) to do it because she won't care about "pulling the plug", whereas you will agonize over it and worry about what Barbara (sister) will think, etc.  I said, mom, listen:  we have some time before we meet with the lawyer, I want you to think about what YOU WANT, in your heart, and if you want me to do it, I'm telling you that I have GROWN UP in the past few DECADES and I can do this and be the executor (that scares me, too) of the will/your estate if you want me to.  Whatever YOU want.  If anyone is mad at me afterwards, TOO BAD.  What I couldn't live with is if I didn't do what YOU want.

So anyway, she says she still wants Ginny to do it, but I'm going to talk to her more about it today, as Ginny is, like, 80 years old herself, so...I don't know about that whole thing.  IF she really wants Ginny, then she needs to, one, CHECK WITH GINNY to see if she is even still willing to do it--she may not even remember that she is on there now, and, two, she needs to tell the lawyer that we need to specify what happens if Ginny is out of town or whatever.

But my point is, I felt so much BETTER after talking to my mom, hard as it was and yes, we managed to get irritated with each other at certain points in the chat, etc., BUT we talked about it and I manned up and said:  I'll do WHATEVER.  Whatever YOU want, I'm there.  Frankly, I would be relieved if Ginny is still executor because THAT I don't even know that I could handle--I can barely manage my own finances and life, I'm really bad at all that kind of stuff.  But as far as the living will type "plug-pulling" decisions, all of a sudden I'm not as scared as I was about that, because--can't believe I'm gonna say this--Cruella is exactly right:  it won't be me making the decisions, it will be me EXECUTING my mom's wishes.  PERIOD.  And that is what I want to be able to say I did when I meet my maker.  Not that I instead said I didn't want to have the responsibility because Barbara might be mad at me.  The heck with that.

Sooooo...lots going on, but I do realize that, IF we can get some of this sorted out, maybe it will be a GOOD thing.  Maybe I'll feel calmer about it all than I have in many, many, MANY years.  I've been profoundly worried and scared about all this for all these years, ever since I wimped out on saying yes to my mom years ago.  At least now I told her, I will do it, and I WANT to do whatever you want.  And we'll talk more about it before she sees the lawyer.  But I already feel better!  Scared to death of other things surrounding her aging that are also demanding to be faced right now, but about the living will and end-of-life stuff, I feel BETTER because we are going to get it sorted out NOW and then, later, it will be my mom's wishes carried out, in the way she wants them carried out.  The elder law attorney is also going to help her sort out stuff to do with her assets, and just generally getting all her ducks in a row so that she can best be taken care of in future, etc.

As for the other situation that triggered this thread in the first place, that's a horse of a different color.  That horse has not gone away.  It is still there, in the background.  Yet that horse is temporarily eclipsed by this other horse, so that's one good thing about the current scary horse.

I hope my Catechol arrives soon *!!!*  


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Good for you PT, way to grow up! Good luck with everything you are dealing with, from what you are saying it feels like you do have the strength and wisdom to deal with all this.


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Good for you PT, way to grow up! Good luck with everything you are dealing with, from what you are saying it feels like you do have the strength and wisdom to deal with all this.

Hopefully.  I think I just might be okay with all the stuff that has filled me with fear and dread all these years, namely, the living will stuff.  But as for the fact that, as my mom gets worse and worse in terms of her blindness, ability to walk even on a walker, etc., it is getting more and more responsibility on me for day-to-day life management stuff and I am really bad at that in my own life, let alone someone else's, let alone someone stubborn as a mule whose first reaction to anything and everything is to RESIST like a house afire (wait...do houses afire resist?  Well, you know what I mean).  But, this is a good time to employ ye olde helpful slogan "One day at a time."



P.S.  It would be good if she were in a GOOD assisted living sitch (versus the independent living apt. she is in), but it turns out that regular humans (the 99%) can't afford those.  And she probably has just a hair above the monthly income needed to qualify for any help with it.  Apparently (political statement ahead--run for your lives now if you can't take it!), unless one is a failed, unethical corporation such as AIG or a war for oil, one doesn't get any help from our government which one has paid taxes to all one's life, especially if one is an actual human citizen who has raised two kids, worked for the government, no less, and played by the rules all her life.  In that case, you are on your own when you get old.  Our country does not care about people, only corporations.  End of politcal rant.


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PT, has anyone looked into the wherewithals out there that could benefit your mother with the assisted living option? Is your mother getting disabled in ways that she needs help with everyday living? I do know how to understand your situation in trying to weave through this maze. The more knowledge you have, the less fearful you will be. But making and executing plans for parents who need help can be against the grain in the worst way because it never feels right no matter what you do! And that doesn't always have a thing to do with their attitudes or anything, but becoming the "parent" is NOT comfortable in any sense of the word! My parents chose their two youngest children to take this responsibility. Do I need to say who was one of them? Thankfully, they didn't need as much help as many parents do. I doubt your mother's cousin would have a clue about how to help your mother unless she has done something like this before or worked with older people in general. Thankfully, I had worked with the legal aspects already and knew a lot of the ropes. But, granted, that has been a while ago! May the wind be at your back!


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Hopefully the eldercare atty will help her (and you) through the process and guide her about decisions about who can and should make decisions if she's unable to make them.  It's a very tough process but practically speaking (and you know I've been through this twice) you're the one who's there.  Both you and Barbara should be aware of who she designates as the person who makes decisions.  The way my parents had it set up, it was the other, then me, then my brother in that order.  They did back in the 90s.  When my mother was no longer able to make decisions, they had it changed so that she was out of the decision making process and so after my dad died in '06, it was clear that I was in charge of all decisions re her care, etc.
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I think you WILL feel better once you get all those legal issues sorted out. Some of these worries may have been worrying you on a low level for years, so you'll face this and then it will be clearer than it's been in a while. And the other sitch will come up again when you're ready to deal with it.


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I think you WILL feel better once you get all those legal issues sorted out. Some of these worries may have been worrying you on a low level for years, so you'll face this and then it will be clearer than it's been in a while. And the other sitch will come up again when you're ready to deal with it.

The other sitch can take a long walk of a short pier.  It's amazing how something can be all-consuming for months and then something else can come along and put it into sudden perspective, isn't it?  Nothing really matters right now except getting my mom squared away on various fronts, as best we can anyway.  You really need a lot of $$$$$ in this country to do truly proper squaring away, but we can do our best.

You are right that my mom's end-of-life "stuff" has been greatly worrying me on a low level for many years--years BEFORE she was ever old or blind or barely able to walk, etc.  Ever since I wimped out on saying yes to being her whatever-it-is-called (living will/advanced directive pup).  I've now let her know that I am willing to do it and I want to do it if that is what she wants.  And, like I said, we'll talk more about it.  I was hoping to on my lunch break (took an extra long one to do this) when I barrelled over there with something to set-up for her and to give her the list of elder law attorneys I came up with for her, but unfortunately, she was downstairs at lunch, so we couldn't talk and I also couldn't get her thing set up, but anyway...I digress.  Point being:  I am going to reiterate at some very near point the fact that I am willing to be in whatever role(s) she would like me to be in.  And if she does pick Ginny, I think I should be the alternate, if there is such a thing.  And once it is all done, then that's that on that.

The day-to-day sitch of her probably needing to be in an assisted living NOW, yet not being in one, is another worry, as apparently, either we would have to pay full price, which no one can afford, OR we have to somehow put her $$$ in trust for my sister and/or I, and then you have to wait FIVE YEARS after doing that in order for her to qualify for any help with assisted living.  And all because she has just a hair of a whisper more money than she would be allowed without doing all that to qualify for a "Medicaid waiver" in those AL places that accept that...IF I understand what the social worker was saying correctly--I'll know more after the elder law attorney.

ANYWAY:  you can see why the other sitch can take a long walk off a short pier.  I really have no time for my heart and/or head to be in any sort of non-working order due to any other sitch, so GET IT TOGETHER, heart and head    .  Do NOT make me send you to military school!  


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Yes there is a way to be the alternate.  Did you read my post above Ruthie's?
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PT...I think it was a turning point when you finally shared specifics about your concerns for your mom...Thanks for trusting us with your deepest feelings..Your experience is highly relevant to all who have older parents and for all who have lost elderly family members...  My sisters and I faced the same situation when my dad was alive..We are three daughters and my youngest sister wound up handling my dad's estate and planning for his ultimate demise...Ironically, my dad died instantly playing golf...(as he always said he would) at the age of 89 in perfect health...(except for a heart that gave out)...but at least we all had a definite plan in place just in case he required
an ALF or nursing home.  All went smoothly....and we all felt a sense of peace after the plans
were all clearly defined and agreed upon.  His loss was profound but at least we enjoyed his last
years alive without feeling great sadness.

Who expected that Cruella might have something useful to share with you....The universe
often sends us unexpected messages from the most unexpected people...  Call it a gift....
Cruella obviously was a messenger.

Happy for you that you were able to process some of your feelings....get thoughts out into the open...and face that you've got some decisions to make.  Often a lingering issue without any
thoughts for solving them can cast a heavy burden on us all... .Just having new information....a potential solution....thoughts that you can turn into action.....planning for the worst case scenario might bring you some much deserved peace!

More {{{{{Hugs}}}}}}}

...hang in there!


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Chloe - so well said!! I echo all the thoughts you so eloquently expressed
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Guys, you all rock so much in a GOOD way.  Chloe, thank you for your very kind words.  They mean a lot.  Jane, yes I did see your post about the alternates being an option when designing a living will, but somehow I didn't see it until after my post that is later in the thread.  Such is the net.

My Catechol arrived yesterday and I took my first dose today at around noon-ish.  I was going to take it this morning, but when I read the directions, it advised that it is best taken away from meals, so since I had just eaten breakfast, I decided to wait 'til midday (I don't usually eat lunch on weekdays, I get outside and walk instead).  Anyway, took my first two capsules.  Not sure if they "did anything" or not, but I do feel pretty calm, cool and collected, so thar ya go.

Possum, you're my favorite Possum EVER.

Have a good weekend, all.  ((((((HUGE HUGS)))))))  


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P.S.  Did I ever mention that I LOVE this community?  My first site ever visited on the net and still my fave-o-faves.  Nothin' and no one, no how, beats you lot in the wonderfulness department.  


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hmmmm how I love the appearence from Don Miguel Ruiz: all about agreements .....
be sceptical... but learn to listen...   to all involved....


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My Catechol arrived yesterday and I took my first dose today at around noon-ish.  I was going to take it this morning, but when I read the directions, it advised that it is best taken away from meals, so since I had just eaten breakfast, I decided to wait 'til midday (I don't usually eat lunch on weekdays, I get outside and walk instead).  Anyway, took my first two capsules.  Not sure if they "did anything" or not, but I do feel pretty calm, cool and collected, so thar ya go.

Possum, you're my favorite Possum EVER.

Have a good weekend, all.  ((((((HUGE HUGS)))))))  
Aww gee thanks Sending more {{{hugs}}}
Glad your Catechol has arrived - hope your weekend is going well too
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AND, in the meantime, why wouldn't you download Dragon Herbs amazing catalogue from their website and browse from time to time? He makes some wonders.


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please be aware of one thing... no... not one thing even more things:


1. we are not from asiatic origins

2. how would you want to make work herbs for will strength this is merely a mental function and only can be done by adequate exercises or better said experiences...even herbs or amino's or whatever can't help here, this is a question of
about our own  mental strength.....
I want to have an eye or better said a point onto organic or non-organic products or better said productions....nothing else....

beware of dif. belief-systems .... I need proofs!!!


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How are you doing now PT? If you took your first dose on Friday, then you've been on them for 4 days now. Are you seeing a significant difference?


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How are you doing now PT? If you took your first dose on Friday, then you've been on them for 4 days now. Are you seeing a significant difference?

Ruthie, I want you to know I made a valiant effort to reply to your post yesterday, the 31st, January, 2012, common era (omg, as you can see, I’ve clearly gone over the edge, Catechol or no Catechol *lol*), but it was not to be.  Busy, busy, BUSY at work.  Was on FB for like two nanoseconds here and there, and that was it for the net.  Anyway, I’m getting started early today answering your Q, so that, hopefully, by the end of the day, max, I will have an actual post typed and ready to post.  Dare to dream!

Okay, your Q is:  how am I doing since the Catechol.  My answer is:  not sure.

Well, geez.  That was a shortie.  You’d think I could have typed that sometime yesterday, wouldn’t you?  Who knew it was gonna be that short?  Not I.  Maybe the Catechol is making my posts drastically shorter!  OMG!


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