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Amazone I.
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I'd go or for l'tyrosine or sam-e , even DL-phenylalanine might do the trick instead of l'tyrosine..... B-complex and Vit. C. mg and some nice carresses might work wonders' as well from Isa

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have got the tip about *traumeel-tablets*... yup they are really good also for mental trauma....


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To get at the root cause of the sadness, look at Bach Flower Remedies.

Duuuude.  I appreciate what you said on the 5HTP and the B vities, but did you per chance not read what I wrote earlier in the thread re my view on Bach flower remedies?  I'm not a fan, let's just put it that way.  However, I appreciate all suggestions in this thread and the thoughtfulness and caring of all who give them.  And, like I said, your 5HTP and B vities suggs ROCK!  In fact, I have been adding nutritional yeast (loaded with B's) to a lot of stuff lately.  God, I love that stuff.  LOVE it, I tells ya.  Love.  It.

Okay, even my writing style in this thread sounds rather INSANE.     I hope the Catechol arrives soon.  



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Okay Twisty, here's KK's unsolicited two cents.


Maybe your spirit is telling you, okay, you've got your health and weight loss goals under control, you're doing fabuloso in those areas, now it's time to deal with this issue you've buried.  Time to bring it up, really look at it, examine it in ways you never have before, see it for what it "really" is (the meaning behind our minds eye, and not what we "think" the issue is) and let it go.

If you go back to Caroline Myss' stuff (which you know me, I always do), there is a lesson in everything that we experience and we can choose to let that even rule our life today, or take that experience and let it make us better people, tomorrow.  (I posted some of this on the I Got Fired thread.)

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I'd go or for l'tyrosine or sam-e , even DL-phenylalanine might do the trick instead of l'tyrosine..... B-complex and Vit. C. mg and some nice carresses might work wonders' as well from Isa

p.s.

have got the tip about *traumeel-tablets*... yup they are really good also for mental trauma....

Amazone, my love, I'm glad to see you pop into this thread!!!!!  For once, my problem IS emotional/psychological **, so this would be the perfect time for you to say "Sarno" and not have me yell at you   .  Actually, no, because my back is holding its own, though it is one huge spasm, but that is because I haven't been to the chiro in A YEAR *sigh*.  I'm going next month, come heck or high water.  But I digress:  What is a "traumeel-tablet", dare I ask?


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Okay Twisty, here's KK's unsolicited two cents.

Maybe your spirit is telling you, okay, you've got your health and weight loss goals under control, you're doing fabuloso in those areas, now it's time to deal with this issue you've buried.

Dude, why are you always this oracle of TRUTH!     FYI, in my defense, I didn't bury anything CONSCIOUSLY, point one.  But yes, turns out I did bury my emotions/feelings on something, BIG TIME.  Point two, also in fairness to ye olde self here, I didn't KNOW about several aspects of this thing that have thrown me for a loop, so chunks of this are new stuff and then other chunks are old stuff and it is all geysering out together in one huge ...well, geyser of something old, something new, something borrowed and something blue!  AAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
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Time to bring it up, really look at it, examine it in ways you never have before, see it for what it "really" is (the meaning behind our minds eye, and not what we "think" the issue is) and let it go.

Oh, trust me, dearest old board bud, I have TOTALLY done and continue to do the bringing it up (actually, it CAME UP, and could not be stopped--geyser metaphor, again), really looking at it (no one on earth could really look at anything more than I've really looked at this), examining it in ways I never have before (again:  been doing that and still am, for MONTHS), and the seeing it for what it really is (trying!).  But as for the "letting it go", aaaaaaaaaaaah:  seeeeee, that's the kicker.  There are a lot of aspects of the "it" and some I'm willing to let go, some I'm NOT, some I don't know if I can or should or want to or WHATEVER.  Some its are sticky wickITS.  Good Lord, I've clearly lost it.  Talk amongst yourselves.  
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If you go back to Caroline Myss' stuff (which you know me, I always do)

  LOVE YOU, kk!!!!!!!  Believe it or not, some stuff you said to me in the past that I thought, what the heck, at the time, has become some of my most treasured wisdom pearls since.  Like "learn to be comfortable in your discomfort".  Other stuff, I realized and agreed was brilliant even as you said it, like "everything is part of Life School", so everything is valuable.  I myself, via my experiences in life, have learned that, in all our losses, are also gifts.  In fact, often we learn the most through our most challenging experiences.
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...there is a lesson in everything that we experience and we can choose to let that even rule our life today, or take that experience and let it make us better people, tomorrow.  (I posted some of this on the I Got Fired thread.)

Yeup.  Oh, that was a typo spelling of either yep or yup, but I kinda like it as "Yeup", so I'm leaving it *lol*.  I like the dialect.  Should be said whilst wearing overalls and eatin' boiled peanuts in a rocking chair on a front porch.     Seriously, where I was going before rhapsodizing about my typo is here:  you are insightful and intuitive to realize that a lot of what is going on is that, EVENTUALLY, I'm gonna have to let some of this go...allowing myself to feel it first is vitally important, is what I think...yet at some point, it's like...oooooookay, and you think you will be able to move off a dime on any of this when, PT?  Answer key:  at present, that is an unknown, so bring on the Catechol, bring on da funk!



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I've felt better since putting a bit of iodine tincture on my skin every day.  It's gone in 24 hours.  I started because I'm picking up all kinds of minor? bugs since moving area and a cattle farmer mentioned they use it on the cows to improve their immunity.Might be pure coincidence of course  

I don't doubt for a minute that the iodine has helped you! I'm all for it. Also, don't forget the selenium to take along with it! I am taking 50 mcgs. at present, by mouth, of course! Makes a lot of difference in the way I feel when I use these two together.


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R-girl, just to clarify (as I feel I was a bit cloudy on the what-the-heck-do-I-mean front), I'm not sure my brain chemistry needs balancing, I think it is more a case of pure, long-buried EMOTION coming up,


OK, but the very act of dealing with this geyser of emotions can and does affect your brain chemistry, if only temporarily. I'm suggesting this book to help you figure out which kinds of supplements are likely to help you. Not that you'll need the supps forever, but you need a little help keeping yourself functional while you're riding this roller coaster.


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I just read my way through this entire thread & first of all, want to give you {{{hugs}}} So wish I could give them in person!! & then...my thoughts (for what they are worth)??!!
4 things came to mind...

1) I am so sorry you were writing all this while I slept blissfully unaware..

2) Wonder why nobody has mentioned magnesium? As you know, it is needed for over 300 functions... & along with B's, both are depleted in times of stress (stress can even be excitement stress - which I know this sure aint)
So up the magnesium AND the B's (you may be needing more than what you get from your nutritional yeast)

3)This period of intense sadness could also be coming from entering the dreaded perimenopause??!! I went through some pretty intense sadness, which I initially put down to simply adjusting to new people (not very well), new place ie "homesickness" among a few other things - turns out it was perimeno rearing its head...which brings me to -

4)As KK touched on - burying stuff - we sail along being able to push stuff down until our hormones get the better of us & you also have the situation with your Mother thrown in to cope with...Sooo never an easy time when our parents get to that inevitable stage I know what that feels like (as do a lot of us)

I always think it is such a strange fact that most of us go through the aging & eventual death of a parent, right about the same time unfortunately, that our teenagers are "mucking up" (NB trying to be light here not flippant ) Be thankful you don't have any of those around to contend with at this time Cyber hugs coming at you!!
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PT, there is no question but there is someone out there who could relate perfectly to your feelings. I went through a time of INTENSE feelings such as you are having, only I was a few years younger, and I couldn't seem to get rid of them to save my life. Simply the passing of time alleviated most of them, but I did have some very good, general support while I was going through it. No wonder you have been missing the board!


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brava dearle brava

traumeel tablets are homeopathic remedies against all kinds of beau-beau's even mental-ones
I use it coz of the interaction of Yaeli while having lost a very longtime relationship lately... and I only can say yessssss beautiful stuff ...even that I was lactose intolerant... I can stand this stuff ... http://www.heel.de   hope this also works in *inglish* language... btw... Sarno isn't that bad... but I prefer also Louise Hay


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thanx AB-confrère but in Europe more stuffs are mentioned and it isn't only against inflammatory issues....


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now it's time to deal with this issue you've buried.  Time to bring it up, really look at it, examine it in ways you never have before, see it for what it "really" is (the meaning behind our minds eye, and not what we "think" the issue is) and let it go
You can't do this all by yourself. It doesn't work this way. In order to do this, you need personal companionship.


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I so sympathize with you, PT. I have tried or am on Rhodiola, iodine, Bach remedies, more red meat (and then some) plus an endless array of other helps and I have finally come to the conclusion that it sometimes isn't as simple as taking more supps.

Then I had the very good fortune to come across 2 books written by the same guy, who is a therapist. They are proving to be of enormous help to me, and to friends whom I have passed on this info. The books are "The Happiness Trap", and "The Reality Slap" both written by Russ Harris. Easy to read, insightful, very practical, but what's even better...works!!! No matter what the emotions are, or how overwhelming they are, or when/where they hit. Not your regular self-help approach, might I add, for anyone who might be thinking "just another therapy book!!


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but what's going on lately with me is not exactly "stress" but more emotional pain/grief--diff animal)


I disagree, what you are dealing with is very much stress, just a different kind of stress than what you've dealt with in the past. In fact, it could be even worse because you are sad, the sadness will amplify the stress on a physiological level - you might not even realize what it's doing to you physically. Sending good vibes, hoping you find an answer that's a good fit for you.


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OK, but the very act of dealing with this geyser of emotions can and does affect your brain chemistry, if only temporarily.

Very true.  Actually, the worst of it is over (I hope!).  The first three months were the most emotional.  The first 7 months were emotional.  I'm now in month 8 and not as emotional, so that's progress.  No more geyser, although it is right under the surface and I can easily tap into it at any time.  But it isn't "geysing" (lol) up outta control anymore.  It's just that I'm still going through a lot and I feel that some well-placed, plant-based assistance wouldn't go amiss.  
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I'm suggesting this book to help you figure out which kinds of supplements are likely to help you. Not that you'll need the supps forever, but you need a little help keeping yourself functional while you're riding this roller coaster.

Exactly.  We're on the same page.  


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I just read my way through this entire thread & first of all, want to give you {{{hugs}}} So wish I could give them in person!! & then...my thoughts (for what they are worth)??!!
4 things came to mind...

1) I am so sorry you were writing all this while I slept blissfully unaware..

Okay, first of all, Possum, bless your cheeky heart:  thanks for the hug and please know that neither you, nor any of us, are obligated to keep vigil on the board 24/7 just in case someone needs support.  The lovely thing about how this community has evolved is that there is usually SOMEONE(S) around at any given time, and we all care, and eventually we will see stuff...okay, so I myself have only been around sporadically of late, due to internet access and time issues, and sometimes I do miss posts that I wish I had seen--or I don't wish I had seen because I don't even know they exist to wish I'd seen *lol*--but we all do the best we can to be here for each other, and that is all we can do.  It ends up working out that this is a VERY supportive community.  So no worries if you take a few hours off every now and then to SLEEP and stuff.  

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3)This period of intense sadness could also be coming from entering the dreaded perimenopause??!! I went through some pretty intense sadness, which I initially put down to simply adjusting to new people (not very well), new place ie "homesickness" among a few other things - turns out it was perimeno rearing its head...which brings me to -

4)As KK touched on - burying stuff - we sail along being able to push stuff down until our hormones get the better of us & you also have the situation with your Mother thrown in to cope with...Sooo never an easy time when our parents get to that inevitable stage I know what that feels like (as do a lot of us)

Yeah, I think all of that is in the mix.  It is definitely to do with something specific that happened/came up in my life, and that triggered a lot of buried emotion to UNBURY itself and turn into Geyser City, plus yes, I think there could be some perimenapausal hormones involved, for SURE, plus all the stuff going on with my mom.  The mom stuff is now moving more to the fore, pushing this other stuff to more of a back burner position, which in a way is good, because SOMETHING's got to *lol*.  I wish my mom were fine and dandy and something else could push the other stuff off the front burner, but at least, if stuff has to be happening with/to my mom, at least one good thing is it gets my mind and heart OFF this other thing, even for a little while here and there.

All I can say is that this feeling and being human business is HARD.  When the walls come tumbling down...whew, geysers galore.


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brava dearle brava

traumeel tablets are homeopathic remedies against all kinds of beau-beau's even mental-ones
I use it coz of the interaction of Yaeli while having lost a very longtime relationship lately... and I only can say yessssss beautiful stuff ...even that I was lactose intolerant... I can stand this stuff ... http://www.heel.de   hope this also works in *inglish* language... btw... Sarno isn't that bad... but I prefer also Louise Hay

Okay then, I will look into these mysterious traumeel tablets.  Thanks, Isa!  


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ever try ACUPUNCTURE?

No.


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Ok, that traumeel website seems shady to me.  They don't list the ingredients.  It seems very slick:  long on sales pitches and short on SUBSTANTIVE INFO, and it is also basically an anti-inflammatory, from what I can discern.  Doesn't seem to be what I need and/or would trust to take even if I did need an anti-inflamatory, since, one, we have tons of good nutriceuticals (like bromelain) for that purpose that we know of from being part of this community and, two, again, the site seems shady, not listing their ingredients.  I'm gonna have to nix traumeel tablets, but thanks anyway, Isa.


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No.


Oh, you might love it Twisty.    I've never had a negative acupuncture experience.  It works with your energy fields via "meridians".

Maybe this is the time to have a new experience?  Try something you've never tried before?


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Ok, that traumeel website seems shady to me.  They don't list the ingredients.  It seems very slick:  long on sales pitches and short on SUBSTANTIVE INFO, and it is also basically an anti-inflammatory, from what I can discern.  Doesn't seem to be what I need and/or would trust to take even if I did need an anti-inflamatory, since, one, we have tons of good nutriceuticals (like bromelain) for that purpose that we know of from being part of this community and, two, again, the site seems shady, not listing their ingredients.  I'm gonna have to nix traumeel tablets, but thanks anyway, Isa.


I've used TRAUMEEL® products for my entire bodywork career TWISTY.  The stuff is really, really good.  It's all natural, homeopathic.  I've never used it for emotional trauma though; only physical.


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Oh, that's a horse of a different color, then, KK.  If you have personally used the traumeel products and they are excellent, then I withdraw my "seems shady" review of the site *lol*.  As for acupunture, I'm not against it, I was just answering the Q re have I tried it:  nope.

If anybody taps into my meridians, what if they hit another geyser?  Everybody better stand back if I ever get acupuncture, that's all I can say:  clear the area!  


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What I COULD definitely use right about now, the funk soul brutha, is a KK MASSAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I have not been to my chiro in a YEAR and I plan to go next month, if he'll have me.  He'll lecture me for not going for so long.  Then I'll lecture him for not starting his own practice again and getting away from the horrible one he works for that screws up every claim they ever submit.  Then he'll adjust me and I'll be CURED!  Hallelujah!

But meanwhile, I could use a KK massage, big time.  I need some rolphing and I need it NOW.


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