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Peppermint Twist
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Okay, I wouldn't say I have a case of depression, but I've been going through a lot of emotional stuff in recent months.  So much so that I've even flashed on the idea that maybe I need some sort of PHARMACEUTICAL *lol*, but of course, I wouldn't take any, not simply for being human and a sensitive one at that and going through some very emotional stuff.  I don't believe in drugging down natural life processes, whether it be physical illness or emotional pain, as you really need to treat the cause, ideally naturally, and with emotional stuff you also need to experience it and go through it versus tamping it down in any way.  Still, there is experiencing it, and then there is being overwhelmed with it.  And then there is wondering when it will ever end, or IF it will ever end.

So, that brings me to the point of this thread:  what supps are good for sort of calming, soothing and lifting one's mood (if one is a Type O--so no cava cava and no St. John's Wort, for examples)?  I do take CoQ10 for a variety of reasons (it is GREAT stuff) and I have noticed since way back when I started doing so a few years ago that it definitely gives me a sense of well being, among other surprising benefits.  I think I really must have needed CoQ10 because it does so many great things for me.  But anyway, I don't think there is enough CoQ10 in the world to help me now by itself.  What other supps do you guys find can take a sad sack and make it a gladder sack?


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There is a homeopathic supplement called Nat Mur you can google. I have also heard of SAMe but I think the Nat Mur is a lot more "instant".
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What about natural stuff like DHA, flax oil teaspoon two or three times a day depending on you other oil intake, also an egg a day.

walks in the country side, deep breathing, what sort of exercise are you doing.

is your water chlorine free, bot drinking and showing, airing your room everyday, you know the sort of stuff we all forget about sometime, that perk you up.

quiet time (that'll be difficult for you  

what Dr D supps do you take already?

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I highly recommend Rhodiola tincture. It offers calmness without making you sleepy or lethargic, and there are no sudden highs or lows. It does take a couple of days for your emotional systems to get used to it--I was a little PMS-y for that time--but afterwards it works with no side effects, at least I had none.


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Are you eating enough red meat? Are you exercising really hard, so hard you would not be able to carry on a conversation? The exercise would boost your endorphins and make you happier.


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As Brighid mentioned, rhodiola is the most amazing thing in the world. If & when I feel overwhelmed by life, this works like a charm and within a few days. It helps one to calm down and put everything into perspective. You put one foot in front of the other and feel solid and stable - no more stumbling! You don't feel lethagic or dull with this, good clear thinking. Wishing you the best.
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There is a homeopathic supplement called Nat Mur you can google. I have also heard of SAMe but I think the Nat Mur is a lot more "instant".

Thanks, g-girl.  If I'm remembering correctly (and I'll have to look it up to be sure), SAMe is an avoid for us O's.  I could be wrong about that.  I will look into "Nat Mur".  I usually am skeptical, frankly, of homeopathic remedies, although some of the principles of homeopathy do make elegant sense to me (like, "like curing like").  The thing is, I'm dubious of the remedies that have, like, one billionth of a particle of something in a tincture that is basically loaded with alcohol, and that is supposed to do anything other than pickle your liver, ya know?  However, I know that many intelligent, wise peeps in our community here SWEAR by, for example, the Bach Flower Remedies, which frankly I feel are an over-priced crock and, again, contain WAY too much alcohol, especially to administer to pets, which often seems to be what one certain one ("Rescue Remedy") is recommended for.  I bought it ONCE for a pet and after taking one whiff of it and realizing how much alcohol is in there, nixed it for said pet.  ANYWAY, I will still look into "Nat Mur" to see what it is all about.  Thanks again!  



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What about natural stuff like DHA, flax oil teaspoon two or three times a day depending on you other oil intake, also an egg a day.

walks in the country side, deep breathing, what sort of exercise are you doing.

Well, I walk a LOT in really lovely settings with fresh air (except for the occasional vehicle exhaust or smoke from a smoker passing by, etc.)  I walk a lot and it is really my salvation, in terms of physical and psychological health, along with the GTD.  I do eat eggs quite often and I eat a lot of olive oil (a LOT), but I have never even purchased flax oil.  I think I will do that, thanks p-checker!  That's a great idea.  Flax!  It couldn't hurt.  I do get a lot of healthy omega's and stuff via the olive oil, for example.  I don't eat nearly as much wild salmon as I did pre-Fukushima.  So the flax is a tremendous idea.  Thanks again.  I'm gonna write this stuff down on a Post-It for my next trip to the HFS, seriously:  let's see, so far, we have "Nat-Mur" and "flax".  Again, I think SAMe is an O avoid, so I'll leave that one off the list for now.  
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is your water chlorine free, bot drinking and showing, airing your room everyday, you know the sort of stuff we all forget about sometime, that perk you up.

Well, the water sitch in my city is a little odd:  instead of just chlorine, a few years back they switched to "chloramine", which is some scary combo of chlorine and ammonia.     It is supposed to be better, as it is less chlorine, but I'm now stuck on the ammonia part!  Should we be drinking ammonia?  I'm guessing that's a NO.
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what Dr D supps do you take already?

oxo

The only supps I take already are CoQ10 (I swear by the stuff), daily (anywhere from 30 mg to 100 mg), and I also take Proberry Caps but not every day.  Just when I think I need an immune system boost (which is nearly daily in winter, with all the sick peeps around me at work all the time).  Sometimes (rarely), I also take Redoxa (if I'm exposed to free radicals, etc.) and I do have some Occubright which I keep forgetting about  .


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I highly recommend Rhodiola tincture. It offers calmness without making you sleepy or lethargic, and there are no sudden highs or lows. It does take a couple of days for your emotional systems to get used to it--I was a little PMS-y for that time--but afterwards it works with no side effects, at least I had none.

I recall you recommending this highly to other peeps and/or to me in the past, twinnie.  Maybe it's time I listen to you?  Okay, DONE:  I'm adding 'er to my Post-It.  We now have "flax, Nat-Mur, Rhodiola tincture" on there.  Not sure if I will actually get the Nat-Mur but I WILL get the flax oil and the Rhodiola.  THANKS!  

As for it making one PMSy at first, I really hope that doesn't coincide with a meeting that is going to be set up with a social worker from a home health place between me, my mom and the social worker re God knows what (my mom isn't clear on it) but something about discussing her living situation, me thinks.  I'm nervous and apprehensive enough about that, PLUS I think I may already be entering a naturally PMSy period (no pun intended) of time.  This could put me over the top *lol*!  I will have to lock myself in the house for a week...oh, wait, I can't do that.  Well, watch the rhymes-with-duck out, world.  You could soon witness a twist on regular plus ENHANCED PMS!  Plus I'm already on a hair trigger lately.  Lock up the babies and hide the old ladies.



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Are you eating enough red meat? Are you exercising really hard, so hard you would not be able to carry on a conversation? The exercise would boost your endorphins and make you happier.

Actually, I'm probably not eating enough red meat.  I do eat it but not as frequently as when I was following the straight O diet.  The Gatherer diet is more turkey and stuff like that.  It seems to be even better for me, but sometimes, an O's got to have her RED MEAT.  I did just make a dish containing ground beef last week and ate it throughout the week (it lasted about 3 or 4 meals), so that was good.  I need to ensure that I do that consistently, though.

As for exercise, no, I don't usually exercise hard enough that I couldn't carry on a conversation while doing so.  I guess I should, and I could accomplish that via the dancing suggestion (which may have been in another thread, but anyway  )  Simply dancing (especially to the pumped-up kind of techno/dance/house/trance music that I tend to favor, can certainly get one into the can't-talk-now-on-account-of-I'm-trying-to-breathe state.  

I would try running but my knee cartilege is basically shot (my bro-in-law suggested that this summer; he and my sister are impressed with my weight loss, and he does running, which he was told he wouldn't be able to do, due to his knees, yet he did it anyway, so he feels I should TRY and see what comes of it.  I'm thinking a trip to the ER and injections of cortisone or something would come of it, so I tend to stick to walking, but maybe I could try running for, like, a BLOCK and just SEE if the world ends.  And, hey, it the world ends, that would take care of the sadness thing, yes?  But then who would care for my pets and meet with whoever this pup is that wants to me with me about my mom, etc.?  No, I have to stick around, so hopefully running for a block won't kill my knees...I'll try it...TODAY.  Whoa, did I just say that?  YES.)



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As Brighid mentioned, rhodiola is the most amazing thing in the world. If & when I feel overwhelmed by life, this works like a charm and within a few days. It helps one to calm down and put everything into perspective. You put one foot in front of the other and feel solid and stable - no more stumbling! You don't feel lethagic or dull with this, good clear thinking. Wishing you the best.

Thanks, that is really good, substantive feedback.  I don't want to get lethargic or spacy, although frankly spaciness would be an improvement over the kind of emotional tsunami I've been going through.  But calming down and putting things in perspective, that would NOT be something I'd turn my nose up at.  And solidness?  SO intense that you used the word "solid".  THAT is what I need:  I need some solid ground under my feet and to feel like the world is made up of solid matter again.  Lately, I've felt that everything and everyONE I thought was solid has turned to liquid and there is nothing and no one to count on, as no one and nothing are what they seem.  As an INFJ (intuitive personality type), if you start to doubt your intuition about people, it is scary.  Because that is basically the only thing we have going for us *lol*:  it's like if a bat or dolphin loses it's sonar.  It's like emotional vertigo.  It's interesting because I actually have experienced physical vertigo and that actually was going on right before this particular emotional tsunami began, so I often call it "emotional vertigo" when I try to describe it to people, as that is exactly, exactly a huge part of what I'm going through.  If somehow I could just get my orientation in the world back to where there is such a thing as SOLIDness that I could trust in, that would help me tremendously.

Man.  Reading that back, it sounds like I've really gone round the bend into total PSYCHOVILLE.  Really I haven't, but I'm just saying that stuff has gone on that has just made me not trust my own intuitions and instincts about people and, again, for an INFJ, that is particularly frightening.  And that is just part of it *sigh*.  There is also the aforementioned sadness, like grief-type sadness.

Yeah.  It's been fun.  When PT posts asking for supplements to help with emotions/mood, you know she's desperate, as I'm really big on dealing with all that stuff via things like diet, exercise, talking it out with friends, praying, etc.  But sometimes, it isn't enough.  That's when many in our wacky country would head to the doctor and ask for DRUGS.  But I definitely wouldn't do that, not for what I'm going through.  There are situations that call for that, but I think that 9 out of 10 Americans who are on drugs for things like depression, do not need to be, because there are better, safer, more effective ways of approaching it.  Anyway, I'm not exactly depressed, myself.  This is kind of the opposite of depression:  this is feeling everything TOO MUCH.  Depression would be an upgrade *lol*.  No, not really.  Actually, even through the worst of this, I've been grateful that I am at a point in my life at which I can and do allow myself to feel my feelings.  It's just that they are a tad on the intense, overwhelming and seemingly neverending side right now, so if I could just mellow them out (not suppress them, just sort of "horse whisper" them into a mellower version of themselves or something), that would be a good thing.



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Quoted from grey rabbit
Are you eating enough red meat? Are you exercising really hard, so hard you would not be able to carry on a conversation? The exercise would boost your endorphins and make you happier.




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I didn't have time to read the whole thread, E, but in a word, Catechol.  That's Dr. D's Rhodiola and it's got some other stuff in there and it's perfect for O's.  I started taking it when my father was dying back in '06 and it worked like a charm.  The past 2 weeks I've had some pretty heavy stuff happening too....and I depend on it.
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If you don't want to take the Rhodiola in a tincture form, look for it in caps. I have bought mine (both tincture and caps) from Mountain Rose Herbs and been very satisfied with price and quality.


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I didn't have time to read the whole thread, E, but in a word, Catechol.  That's Dr. D's Rhodiola and it's got some other stuff in there and it's perfect for O's.  I started taking it when my father was dying back in '06 and it worked like a charm.  The past 2 weeks I've had some pretty heavy stuff happening too....and I depend on it.
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Thanks, Jane, I forgot all about Catechol!!!!!!!!!  I ordered some many years ago.  I'm not sure if the formula was the same back then--has it always had the Rhodiola?  Anyway, I will order some RIGHT NOW.  I appreciate your sharing specifically that it helped when your dad was dying, because there are similarities between the kinds of emotions and stress I'm experiencing now and that.  One thing is my mom doing worse and worse, and having to face up to that and deal with stuff to do with it.  And the other thing, well, you know what it is, and it also involves emotional grieving and it is the thing that has thrown me for several loops for months on end.

Like I said, I forgot all about Catechol!  And since it has the Rhodiola in it, that's phenomenal, as I'll be getting that, plus whatever else Dr. D has put in there because it works symbiotically to help us O's.  If I can get a supp from Dr D, I prefer it, as NAP stuff is high quality, and customized by Dr. D.  It doesn't get better than that.  I'm ordering it now.  BYE!


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If you don't want to take the Rhodiola in a tincture form, look for it in caps. I have bought mine (both tincture and caps) from Mountain Rose Herbs and been very satisfied with price and quality.

I think I'll go with it in the Catechol.  Do you think that will provide enough of it, specifically?


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Brig (and Jane), I just ordered the Catechol.  I notice it also has tyrosine, which you have also highly recommended in the past for things like cravings, mood issues and PMS (which can all be hormonal and also can all be stress-related).  Looking forward to ingesting some!  I also ordered some Proberry because one can never have too much Proberry on hand this time of year and my current bottle of the caps is only about half full anymore.  Might as well load as much in there on one order's shipping and handling as possible, that's my view!  


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Thanks to everyone who has responded thus far with such great suggs.  It is much appreciated.  I've been meaning to post this thread for a while now.  When something gets to the point where it is overwhelming you so much that you neglect things like bills, etc., until you get pink envelopes in the mail saying things like "Perhaps you did not realize, on account of being overwhelmed by emotion at the present juncture, that you did not pay your CAR INSURANCE and so now we are sending you this friendly cancellation notice", it is time to face the music that you are, in fact, overwhelmed.

I hope these supps, in conjunction with all the other stuff I'm doing (diet, exercise, prayer, leaning on buds, etc.) can help me return to a regular state of whelmedness versus being overly whelmed.  


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I've felt better since putting a bit of iodine tincture on my skin every day.  It's gone in 24 hours.  I started because I'm picking up all kinds of minor? bugs since moving area and a cattle farmer mentioned they use it on the cows to improve their immunity.
Might be pure coincidence of course  
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1. Instead of the walks, jog your regular route.  That will get you to that point where you couldn't carry on a conversation and give you the extra "boost" you need.  

2. Catechol = Type O ---->  Dr. D has figured out the correct amount you need already.

3. Do something for someone else.   Volunteer your time, bring them a fruit basket, give something you made away.  When you get the focus off yourself, your mood will lift.  

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5-HTP is on the "anti stress protocol" for nonnies. It promotes seratonin production.

Rhodiola root is reccomended for Os and helps to boost dopamine.

I strongly reccomend the book The Mood Cure by Julia Ross to help figure out which brain chemicals you personally need boosting right now, based on your symptoms. But then double-check supplements against Dr D's protocols; some of the specifics she reccomends aren't the best choices for Os.

Stress tends to make you need more B vitamins, so supplementing with B complex and/or specific B vitamins may be helpful. Low vitamin D can cause depression (but you live in Florida and walk outside daily, so it's possible your D levels are fine. Still, check it out.) Really, any nutritional deficiency can lead to depression/feeling overwhelmed. And, of course, exercise, eat lots of protien, and avoid sugars.

To get at the root cause of the sadness, look at Bach Flower Remedies. They're similar to homeopathics (though homeopathic purists will argue otherwise.) They work on the psychic/energy level, releasing emotional blockages, helping you to work through your deeper issues. Sometimes they work within minutes, but other times you need to use the remedy for weeks or months before you fully un-block the "stuck energy." It depends on how deeply rooted that particular emotion is.

There are 39 different remedies, and you can take up to 5 at a time. I can't advise you on what specific remedies you need without knowing a LOT more about your feelings and siutation than you've shared online. Elm is the one for "feeling overwhelmed" but you may need others in combination with it. I reccomend you get out a few books on the topic from your local library and read through them, which will help you figure out which remedies are likely to help you right now. You can also find descriptions of remedies online, usually from sites selling them, but I've found the books to be much more detailed. The remedies are available online or at stores such as Whole Foods.

When I use the Bach remedies, I figure out which remedies I need and put 2 drops of each in a "mixer bottle" of water. Then I take a few drops of that mixture a few times a day. There amount of alcohol per dose is negligable. There's about half an ounce of alcohol per little bottle, and those bottles last me something like 10 years!


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Sorry I didn't read the whole thread but I second Jane in recommending Catechol and am glad PT you have ordered some now. Last time when I consulted Dr. Nash, she prescribed it twice a day for me and it really has worked it charm! I'm a much calmer person now, compared with the wreck that I was in the last quarter.


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I strongly reccomend the book The Mood Cure by Julia Ross to help figure out which brain chemicals you personally need boosting right now, based on your symptoms.

Well, chicken and egg-wise in this case, it isn't that my brain chemicals went haywire and now I need to figure out what to do to help them, as actually, particularly since starting the GTD in 2008, my brain chemistry/biochemical balance in all systems is really optimized to a point and with a consistency and strength (strength, as in, even severe stress doesn't seem to throw me out of this balance, but what's going on lately with me is not exactly "stress" but more emotional pain/grief--diff animal) that never ceases to amaze me.  Even through the worst of my boss harassing me several years back, I was very even keel in terms of no cravings, keeping my own cool in the face of all that was going on, feeling strong and healthy physically and emotionally, etc.   The thing now is that, without going into details, emotions have been triggered to come up and BOY, did they come come up like a long-dormant geyser, and so maybe I'm just arguing semantics with you, but it isn't that something was missing or out of balance in my diet/supplementation that has led to me needing to "fix" that.  It is that something emotional triggered emotions to come up, and while that is natural and healthy, the intensity and long-lived-ness, if you will, of it is what I'm now thinking is ENOUGH ALREADY and I may need more than just a whole foods diet, good exercising program, and good destressing tactics in my life to cope with, which is why I'm thinking some supplements to basically calm and lift one's mood could be in order.

Just saying, it isn't that my biochemistry was outta balance when this started, or even now.  Actually, again, I'm amazed at the power of the GTD and this whole lifestyle, and it has gone a looooooooooooooooooooooooooong way to getting me through all this, yet sometimes, ya just need a little extra help from all quarters, and I feel that supplementation could be a quarter that I need to peer into for signs of help *lol*.

I'm already eating right, exercising (will try to see if I can run without killing my knees, as discussed earlier in the thread, so kk, read some of the earlier posts, lovie  :K...that may be a way to boost my mood via exercise more than just walking--wait a hair, kk, maybe it was in another thread that we were discussing jogging/running:  if so, sorry!  ), trying to get enough sleep, getting outside myself by doing for others, blah blah BLAH but supplementation has been something I've sort of overlooked.  Anyway, I ordered the Catechol (has Rhodiola and tyrosine, etc.) and will look into the "Nat-Mur".  The 5HTP is another rocking sugg, thanks r!  You all are definitely my go-to peeps.



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Yeah, the more I think of it, 5HTP could be key.  I could def use some extra seratonin up in hea!  Bring it!


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R-girl, just to clarify (as I feel I was a bit cloudy on the what-the-heck-do-I-mean front), I'm not sure my brain chemistry needs balancing, I think it is more a case of pure, long-buried EMOTION coming up, which again, is not a bad thing, albiet overwhelming.  It's most undoubtedly a healthy thing, actually.  BUT the thing is that "too much of a good thing is not a good thing", in the sense of, when one's emotions are basically overwhelming one for months on end, then it may be time for some sort of plant-based intervention *lol*, that maybe could at least CALM things and flip a switch to maybe move things to a less intense gear.

I hope that is making sense.

edited to add:  a truckload of THERAPY probably wouldn't go amiss right about now, either, but I'm not sure that anyone could really help with this, any more than therapy I've already had in life, thus have under my belt, can be called up to help in this sitch.  I mean, I'm not sure there is anything new that anyone could add, unless they have been through this, which they undoubtedly have not.  I do think that talking to someone who has been through something similar would help, and I'm working on arranging that.  Still, I've had a lot of therapy (and help from a 12-step group called Adult Children of Alcoholics, which profoundly helped me and the things I learned from it continue to help me in life), back in the day, so I basically know what one should do, in general, to help one get through stuff in a healthy way.  It's just that, sometimes, the specific stuff in question is so INTENSE, and goes on long enough with no end in sight, as to inspire a thread on:  IS THERE SOMETHING I CAN TAKE TO HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE?!  


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