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Goldie
Tuesday, November 8, 2011, 7:26am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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TYPE O:
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Secretor:
NEUTRAL

Non Secretor:
BENEFICIAL


I wonder if a dropper of red wine several times a day might help.. my thinking that the alcohol might open the arteries...  

The vinegar is strong and my recent experience (constipation) with apples tells me not to play with avoids..

On the other hand going on HCG drops and severe diet regimen lowered my numbers from high to normal in merely 2-4 weeks.  I have not ESTABLISHED a comparison for when I go off the drops... and eat normal again.. but I will report in future.  

Yet,  I wonder what other hormones could accomplish, as I think that a pre-cursor to a heart attack is some HORMONAL event.. totally unsubstantiated - but my intuition tells me I would look into that types of possibilities.  

Then also - my uncle developed a mayor stroke after he was kicked of his first position as a musician after many years of having held that position... he was so angry and upset, I think he caused his stroke (hormonal reactions)! So keep your cool and meditate rather then respond to emotions and allow FEAR to leave you so that you do not stress more then is good for you.  

All the best.   

reading the book PC mentioned might give you new insights..


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PCUK-Positive
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Goldie.

Remember that your swami overrides Typebase Food Values. As it is taking much more into account than just blood and secretr type. Sure you know that but in case your trying to get yourself some more wine or pineapple

Is Red wine neutral on swami or beneficial?


Kind Regards PC. FIfHI Swami III Pro

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Goldie.

Remember that your swami overrides Typebase Food Values. As it is taking much more into account than just blood and secretr type. Sure you know that but in case your trying to get yourself some more wine or pineapple

Is Red wine neutral on swami or beneficial?


PC, I am not sure if you are addressing this last question to Goldie or me, but I thought I would answer it anyway.

I get red wine as a neutral on my SWAMI but it is a geno-harmonic food for all but one food for me.  I drink red wine every night with dinner, according to my cardiologist's recommendations.  I believe the apple cider vinegar is different than red wine.  Two apples a day have been shown to lower cholesterol.  I posted a thread on this a while back.


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Hello all! Sorry to highjack this post in a way. I wanted to post as a new thread but I'm still not allowed for some reason... Anyway I have been on Swami (51% hunter) for 4mo's now and have been pretty compliant. At 43yrs old I got on the program to better recover from sports. I truely believe in the research and science behind all of the blood diets. The results from the past 4mo's have been terrific!

Until about 2wks ago when I got gout in my ankle that was so serious I couldn't walk for 10 days! The only thing I found that seemed to reverse it was apple cider vineger. This is an avoid on my swami because of the non-secreter. It seems like all the benificial foods are high in purines and some are even diamonds! I have never had gout before and now I am very troubled. I do not know what to do at this point. Any help from the experts would be very much appreciated! Thanks..
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I wanted to post as a new thread but I'm still not allowed for some reason...


make sure it wasn t perhaps an administrator only place on the forums where you happened to want to post

welcome!


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make sure you really are following your swami recommendations for ALL your food groups

a client friend of mine also was having bout attacks, only to find out he was not following his frequency guidelines and was too hooked on the grains.

don t forget the guidelines work in synergy, so add all and lower those which you are overdoing


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Mototime
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It just tells me that I can't start a new thread, only reply to them....  Any advice Lola? Type O, non, hunter. Could it be a one time meal that set it off like fresh scalops? Or is it because of all the beef that my Swami has me eating?
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Mototime
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The only grain's I consume are allowable ones. Brown rice, millet and flax mostly. I live by the beach and eat a lot of fresh fish. I did probably overdo the beef and lamb a bit and I did let myself get very dehydrated leading up to the gout attack. Also I had a bunch of fresh scalops that I don't normaly eat. So maybe thats what brought it on but it is really lingering and I have been doing everything posible to recover. No beef in 2wks, taking all of the recomended herbs, drinking lots of water. It just bothers me that the only thing that seems to really help people with this including myself is an avoid for me. Also is my new found nutritional program the primary cause or at least contributer?
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Welcome mototime!

Apple Cider Vinegar is neutral for O secretors. It's only an avoid for O non-secretors.  http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/depictor5.pl?437

Since most of the population are secretors, Dr D reccomends following the secretor  guidelines if you don't know your secretor status. So this makes apple cider vinegar a "neutral" for you, and appropriate to use medicinally.

Even if it was an "avoid" for you, it might still be appropriate to use it for a short term, acute condition. It's only when talking about using an "avoid" for long term use (as PattyH was considering for cholesterol control) that the issue of avoids is a bigger issue.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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Mototime
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Thanks for the reply Ruthie. I am a non-secretor that was the main issue along with the fact that I got it in the first place and a lot of my Swami recomended foods seem to be high in purines. Can anyone tell me how I would find a Naturopathic doctor who follows the BTD and GTD's ways in the Daytona Beach FL area? Google was no help. Thanks again..
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Patty the wine comment was for Goldie

FYI http://www.dailymail.co.uk/hea.....tting-harm-good.html


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Ruthie - does this mean that the avoids in my Swamie  that says 'all vinegars' refers to all vinegars other than apple cider vinegar?




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Dianne
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Ah well! No complaints, heck I did get my cinammon back as a Secretor. Thanks for such a quick answer Lola. It gets confusing with the typebase. I guess Swamie trumps that for those who have it.
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