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PCUK-Positive
Thursday, October 6, 2011, 6:19pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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AB Joe - the analogy was purely a clinically chemical one - not including lectins.

I realise there is an issue for some people but avoiding a derivative of corn completely is not the solution for the majority of people, even if it is actually necessary for some.

i don't eat any corn products, but if people eat any processed products with hidden corn it may well be that that is upsetting them and not magnesium citrate.

note i  do not know either way for sure, all im saying is as far as labelling is concerned. and I imagine Dr D has it covered too, which is more to the point.

even gluten free products are allowed to have something like 20 parts per million or something yet they still call them gluten free -

I think i realistic expectation is required.






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If it says there is no CORN in it then I would assume that there isn't any "Corn" technically.

if the chemical is derived from corn it does not mean it is corn.

Ideally they would use something else but i imagine they use it because it as good as it gets.

if you say there is no water in something but there is oxygen in it, derived from water for arguments sake you do not need to worry about the water - or the hydrogen for that matter.





An assumption is what you're referring to and I would prefer to hear facts. I wrote again to
Gwen asking more questions about the labeling given there has been a formula change from magnesium stearate to magnesium citrate.

I doubt the company that makes the labels is the same as the lab that creates the DPN products.

There would have had to be an intervention by someone else....perhaps at the lab, telling DPN's
management that they are now using a corn derived formula and label is wrong.  What
I'm saying is that this one step is possibly an oversight.  Magnesium stearate wasn't a corn
derived ingredient awhile back...And now magnesium citrate is.... And maybe it's fine.

I just want to know more.  I want to hear that someone analyzed this corn derived "additional" ingredient now used in most of DPNs formulas. I want someone to deem this magnesium citrate as totally safe for all corn reactive individuals.

From a health perspective, I'd rather leave no stone unturned....It's not a matter of theoretical assumptions that we should be making to justify our unwillingness to rule out what might honestly be a bigger deal than we know..

I want to hear DPN's explanation and then maybe I can sit back and not take this all that seriously...so for me, I would like confirmed factual information from the lab that "no corn" on a label is indeed the way the label should read.

You do realize the strong effects of homeopathy?  The notion of "essence" or nothing left after titration is powerful medicine. So in all actuality, what's left after corn has been made into
a derivative could actually be stronger than anyone knows.

I'll just feel better with real facts.  At this point, speculation isn't a safe enough idea.


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An assumption is what you're referring to and I would prefer to hear facts. I wrote again to
Gwen asking more questions about the labeling given there has been a formula change from magnesium stearate to magnesium citrate.

I doubt the company that makes the labels is the same as the lab that creates the DPN products.

There would have had to be an intervention by someone else....perhaps at the lab, telling DPN's
management that they are now using a corn derived formula and label is wrong.  What
I'm saying is that this one step is possibly an oversight.  Magnesium stearate wasn't a corn
derived ingredient awhile back...And now magnesium citrate is.... And maybe it's fine.

I just want to know more.  I want to hear that someone analyzed this corn derived "additional" ingredient now used in most of DPNs formulas. I want someone to deem this magnesium citrate as totally safe for all corn reactive individuals.

From a health perspective, I'd rather leave no stone unturned....It's not a matter of theoretical assumptions that we should be making to justify our unwillingness to rule out what might honestly be a bigger deal than we know..

I want to hear DPN's explanation and then maybe I can sit back and not take this all that seriously...so for me, I would like confirmed factual information from the lab that "no corn" on a label is indeed the way the label should read.

You do realize the strong effects of homeopathy?  The notion of "essence" or nothing left after titration is powerful medicine. So in all actuality, what's left after corn has been made into
a derivative could actually be stronger than anyone knows.

I'll just feel better with real facts.  At this point, speculation isn't a safe enough idea.


I agree, Chloe.  And we haven't even begun to discuss consumer confidence.  People buy Dr. D's books and supplements because they trust Dr. D.  If the supplements are tainted with corn products when the lables specifically say there is no corn, then it is ultimately Dr. D's fine reputation on the line.


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No offence girls but personally i think you are both making more of this than is required or necessary.


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No offence girls but personally i think you are both making more of this than is required or necessary.


Personally, I think if we all find out the truth and you were correct about your assumption
that this is totally safe, then we won't have to think about this again. We'll end this thread with conclusive evidence. And anyone searching for information will know the truth.

But the truth is, at this very moment we don't have any definitive answer directly from any reliable source.  Everyone who is speculating might want to understand that there are people battling serious health conditions and speculation might be risky for them.  In America due to so many children with peanut allergies, there are kids who have gone into anaphylactic shock and died simply by being in an environment where other people were eating peanut butter sandwiches.  In my grandkids' schools, no nuts allowed.  In their sleep away camp....nut free.

Our society has changed. People's immune systems have changed...Can't explain all the reasons
for this, but I'd still rather be on the safer side of this debate than assume something I know
nothing about is totally safe. All I'm asking for is a professional point of view.  None of us here
can do that for everyone who might have concerns.


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Policychecker, the only constant in life is change.  If changes need to be made to the ingredients in the supplements or the way they are manufactured or packaged, then it is better to know about it so that the problem can be addressed.

The "girls" are not trying to make anything more out of this other than trying to understand if the supplements they are spending their hard-earned money on contain ingredients that should not be there.  I assume Dr. D would want to know if the manufacturer has changed something or if the supplement now contain a corn-derived product.

These types of growing pains are common in business but need to be addressed, regardless.  I see this thread as a step in the right direction - that is all  


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Here is "the" definitive answer I just received back from Gwen.  We can now all put this to sleep.

So, at least inquiring minds finally know the truth!  ...so be it!  

This is a company with integrity and Dr D’Adamo is very particular that ALL the ingredients in the supplements are of the highest quality and DO NOT include avoids for the blood types.

Using Magnesium Citrate from corn and eating corn is totally different.  The fundamental difference is that there is no corn DNA left in the magnesium citrate by the end of the process.   There is no corn protein or anything that can trace back to the corn.   Therefore, the labels are correct and the supplements safe and not an issue at all.

Hope this helps.

Gwen
Customer Service Supervisor


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Thanks for the "update", Chloe. I'm locking the thread, so that the latest information is most prevalent.


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