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Okay so I need to do a few protocols. I am starting with the URINARY TRACT HEALTH PROTOCOL

BLOOD GROUP O
Bromelain (Pineapple enzyme), 500 mg: 1-2 capsules, twice daily
Bearberry (Arctostaphylos uva-ursi), 150-250 mg: 1-2 capsules, twice daily
Horsetail (Equisetum arvense) 500 mg: 1 capsule, twice daily
Polyflora O (ABO Specific Probiotic): 2 capsule daily  

NON-SECRETORS
Vitamin A, 10,000 IU: 1 capsule, daily
Deflect A | Deflect O | Deflect B | Deflect AB |

GENERAL RECOMMENDATIONS USABLE BY ALL GROUPS
Vitamin C (from Acerola Cherry or rose hips), 250 mg: 1 capsule, twice daily


I have managed to buy most of the items above, except horse tail. so these are he tablets i took this morning and i will be taking the same ones early evening.

In addition to this I'm taking other supplements and first thing in th morning and last thing at night i take a whole lemon squeezed with a half teaspoon of bicarb of soda then add that to a half glass of water.

this morning

Bromelain (Pineapple enzyme), 500 mg: 1
Bearberry (Arctostaphylos uva-ursi), 150 mg:  
Horsetail (Equisetum arvense) 500 mg: 1 capsule, twice daily  
Polyflora O (ABO Specific Probiotic): 1 capsule    

NON-SECRETORS
Vitamin A, 5,000 IU: 1 capsule,
Deflect O 1 capsule
GENERAL RECOMMENDATIONS USABLE BY ALL GROUPS
Vitamin C (from Acerola Cherry or rose hips), 500 mg:

as you can see a few things missing and a slight variation in the amount or weight of tablets due to supply problems.

I'm taking my usual genoma eq plus a pygeum and saw palmetto cap with it.

but also fish oils, explore activator and catalyst, plus live cell and my mineral and vit amin supps too.

going to be doing this for four weeks or until i run out out supps lol. then i shall be doing water ever protocol is required be it ant bacterial and also a dvt busting protocol in the mean time too.

all comments welcome and appreciated.

oh I'm reducing my protein a bit, as i have been eating over the recommended amounts by swami, by a lot. so more fish and more veg and more fruit too.

i also bought some ocubright so wondered whether i should take one of them too or wait for 4 weeks as my tummy might start thinking it is a shaker!



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day tow of protocol, feeling a bit tired, but bearing up. back still very painful during the night, but gets better in the morning and is fine all day, weird!

Does anyone have any views on "Sassafras" for clot

found this on a site......
"Sassafras The herb Sassafras has been used to help dissolve blood clots. Dr. Christopher N.D. M.H. wrote “Here is an herb that is the finest spring tonic known to man. It thins the blood as it cleanses old sludge from the bloodstream. We have used it successfully for people who have suffered from blood clots and formerly needed to take toxic blood-thinning drugs.” (You can drink the tea) "


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Quite often when I start a protocol for some specific healing, I am quite tired.  Also, when the kidneys get tired, they can cause the back to be very uncomfortable.  It sounds like things are "reasonable" for the time being.  I expect the kidneys (the back indirectly) will start to feel better within the week, but it may take longer - depends on how much junk is getting cleaned out...

Chin up - it gets better.   


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would I really mention to an O explo...hmmmm.... this is a form of repetition of another thread... baby O... become aware of your reluctancy to give us your true trust... so far...perhaps go for your own issues as usual but don't blame us
if you're going to fail ...

btw... did you ever recognized that no trust in ourselfs/ves  means no trust into others........mirroring is our/your true reply here  


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Os usually have thin blood to begin with. In the absence of a specific medical need, I wouldn't recomend any blood-thinning herbs for an O.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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Thanks Ruthie, but i have been looking at all the available herbs and supps available for busting blood clots / dvt's.

I have read up on all the suggestions so far but am still researching things. Cayenne Pepper seems to be rated well. but i have no information regarding it and blood type. anyway i am adding it to my menu. had someone my scrambled eggs together with spinach (salicylate).

Amazone, I read everything that everyone posts, i also then research it myself, in detail. It's not about trust. I enjoy all your posts, but the buck stops with me. oxo

Trust indeed, I'm taking 24 supplement tabs a day and no medication - that must account for some trust. lol

Thanks for the re-assurance ABJOE.




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Quoted from PCUK-Positive
[...]I'm taking 24 supplement tabs a day[...]


In case Dr. D is reading along; it would be really convenient if all basic BT (4)packs and basic GT (3)packs dosages could be popped into one (larger) cap. Instead of swallowing 9 pills (excl. the probiotics) a meal, that would already reduce it to just 2

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Quoted from PCUK-Positive
Cayenne Pepper seems to be rated well. but i have no information regarding it and blood type.


http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/depictor5.pl?293 As a food, it's neutral for Os. On my SWAMI, it's beneficial (probably due to the anti-arthritis properties.)

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In case Dr. D is reading along; it would be really convenient if all basic BT (4)packs and basic GT (3)packs dosages could be popped into one (larger) cap. Instead of swallowing 9 pills (excl. the probiotics) a meal, that would already reduce it to just 2 .


The chance of Dr D or somebody from DPN finding your suggestion in this thread is pretty low. I'd contact DPN directly, through email or phone, to give them your suggestion.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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Rutie, God how did i miss that lol Pepper , red flakes is beneficial on my swami i assume tha tis cayenne. Good thinking blue eyes oxo


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Okay, I have been on the urinary track protocol for a week.

Good news is I'm not in so much pain at all really.

the bad news is my stomach is swollen to the extreme. i have been bloating up all day and then peeing all night. losing on average 5 pounds just from water lose, as such.

so i got fed up today and decided to make a few changes. keeping the protocol but eating and drinking differently. no fruit juice less fruit and generally less food altogether. i am increasing the amount of cayenne too. it seems to be working a bit. i have not put on so much weight today and my stomach although still ridiculous is not as bad as the last few days.

perhaps I'm missing something regarding this bloating. perhaps i should move to anti-inflammatory and or ant bacterial protocol.


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You do know, don't you,  that when on the protocols, you don't need to take everything.  Start at the top and add as necessary.
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No i did not know that, I pent hundreds on the dam supplements. and feel as if i don't need to eat because there is so much supplement in my tum.

Thanks you Jane. oxo


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I don't have much to add sorry for that. I do think red pepper and cayenne are the same thing, one is a powder and the other flakes...it's a diamond for me, both as a Hunter and an Explorer, there is only one percent difference between the two for me...and I add it to my soups and all kinds of things.

I do think the cutting down on the protein is good even though the body needs protein to heal. Too much is extra work on the body that could better be spent with the healing process, also getting adequate sleep is very important for the body to heal. At least 7 hours a night.

Carbohydrates make me retain fluids, you know that type O's are carb intolerant...do you think that could be contributing to the peeing all night? Not sure what to think about that bloating. Are you peeing during the day as well?

Sorry you're going through this...hope you get better soon...
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Thanks for those two posts, very helpful. That article about Protocols should be in the book or at the top of the protocols somewhere, make so much sense now.

i don't pee quiet so much during the day.

yesterday was much better but I ate much less and think that help. i still bloated but half as much as normal.




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It pretty close to being 4 weeks and I'm much better although very tired most of the time.

I have done the urinary track protocol to the extreme to gether with a males health protocol again to the extreme.

I'm now going to concentrate on anti inflammatory protocol for 4 weeks  possibly starting onmonday next week as i feel like a break would be good.

My leg is a little painful some times, actually it's more of a numbness than a pain really and again only very occasionally.

I'm also going to give the inclined bed thing a try next week.

so my BLOOD GROUP O protocol is as follows (the ones crossed out i don't have but may add later when i next order supps)

Glucosamine sulphate, 500 mg: 1-2 capsules away from food, twice daily

Bromelain (Pineapple enzyme), 500 mg: 1-3 capsules, four times daily between meals, gradually decreasing dose and frequency as symptoms improve

Ginger root (Rhizoma Zingiberis: Zingiber officinalis) (I take it this is just normal ginger)

Cayenne pepper (Capsicum sp), 300 mg: 1-2 capsules with meals  

Sprouted Food Supplement (Live Cell O): 2 capsules daily

NON-SECRETORS
5-HTP (5-Hydroxytryptophan), 150 mg: 1 capsule, twice daily (not for group O)

Lectin-blocking formula ("Deflect") specific for ABO group: Deflect A | Deflect O | Deflect B| Deflect AB

GENERAL RECOMMENDATIONS USABLE BY ALL GROUPS

Bromelain (Pineapple enzyme), 500 mg: 1-3 tablets, four times daily between meals, gradually decreasing dose and frequency as symptoms improve

I also think some of the bloating is actually my intestines and not my stomach. if that makes sense?

all comments and observations gratefully considered


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Referring to something you said early on in the post about busting blood clots, my health practitioner recommends Nattokinase (with NSK-SD) for dissolving plaque but she says it is not a blood thinner. Don't know if that will help but just thought I would pass that along.

This is the product and you can read some reviews on it as well.

http://www.vitacost.com/NSI-Nattokinase-NSK-SD/?pd_section=pr

Lisa


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Thanks foodie, I did look into that but can't find anything regarding Nattokinase and blood type - and as you know I'm pretty keen on the Blood type link of any herb etc.

A lot of the herbs recommended by people turn out to be good for A's but not O's for example if you look at all the protocols and in the encyclopedia.

I'm going to concentrate on the cayenne pepper next week, although i have already added it to most of my cooking.


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My health practitioner was the one who got me started on the BTD and she also recommended this product. I sure hope its OK since I have been taking it for quite a while! She saw something in my Iridology that needed attention, not that I have any symptoms.


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That sounded cool up until you mentioned iridology Foodie. I'm not a fan of that very much at all.

but i'll keep checking thanks oxo


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No Andrea, why do you ask


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