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Mayflowers
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Well I broke out in a rash again from Now brand D.   Weird. I was taking it for about 6 months no problem.  I went back on the BlueBonnett Fish Oil D.  I hope my LDL doesn't go whacky on it. I'm taking
2  a day or 4,000 ius.

Chloe, how much are you taking a day of that?
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Well I broke out in a rash again from Now brand D.   Weird. I was taking it for about 6 months no problem.  I went back on the BlueBonnett Fish Oil D.  I hope my LDL doesn't go whacky on it. I'm taking
2  a day or 4,000 ius.

Chloe, how much are you taking a day of that?


Doesn't it seem weird that you'd tolerate that D for awhile and then suddenly get a rash from it?
I started itching from the NOW D3 which was when I switched to the fish oil formula.

My form of vitamin D has been changed....Dina Khader, local nutritionist told me to take a brand
(of course it's a professional formula and I can't find it anywhere online) but it contains vitamin K
as well. This helps calcium stay in bone and not wind up in soft tissue...  My D level is now above 70.  I think 72 when last measured right after I switched brands (maybe 3 months ago) So, I'm taking 5,000 iu per day which for me, is plenty.

And my DH's level is 69 from taking the formula that Dr. John Cannell formulated...Purity
Products I think makes it....contains D co-factors.  DH takes 5,000 iu of his formula....but he's
in the sun more than I am....I tend to cover up in the sun..wear a hat...spend shorter times to
avoid skin damage.

Does your skin get brown spots when you're out in the sun?  



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I take 5000 IUs a day plus whatever is in the Cal Mag Zinc.  The brand I take is Pure Encapsulations I think it's called.  Interesting about the vitamin K.  I have a physical tomorrow.  I'll ask my doctor about that but I bet she won't know.  I do have brown spots on the lower part of my arms from years of tennis and golf.  I'm very self conscious of my upper arms so they are covered and no spots there at all.
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Doesn't it seem weird that you'd tolerate that D for awhile and then suddenly get a rash from it?
I started itching from the NOW D3 which was when I switched to the fish oil formula.
Does your skin get brown spots when you're out in the sun?  


Yes it's weird. IDK if it's from the seasonal allergies just agravating it or what.  Yes I have age spots on my face and arms. Also some white spots on my arms. I had them checked by a dermatologist and she said they were age related skin changes in the pigment..not to worry.

How much BlueBonnett D did you take ? 6,000?   I'm afraid to take more vitamin K because of my 'easy clotting Warrior blood" with a history of DVT... Dr. D said it wouldn't affect it but, I'm still worried.  
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Yes it's weird. IDK if it's from the seasonal allergies just agravating it or what.  Yes I have age spots on my face and arms. Also some white spots on my arms. I had them checked by a dermatologist and she said they were age related skin changes in the pigment..not to worry.

How much BlueBonnett D did you take ? 6,000?   I'm afraid to take more vitamin K because of my 'easy clotting Warrior blood" with a history of DVT... Dr. D said it wouldn't affect it but, I'm still worried.  


Yes, I took 6,000 per day of BlueBonnet...one pill with each meal....but without any K, I'm wondering if this is the reason you're not able to raise your D level very much.

Those white spots I used to have too....looks like vitiligo spots...I was told it's an autoimmune
reaction....most likely from gluten damage.  I'm off gluten more than 6 years...My white spots
totally went away...My son had them too.....his faded after going off gluten for the last 4 years.



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Yes, I took 6,000 per day of BlueBonnet...one pill with each meal....but without any K, I'm wondering if this is the reason you're not able to raise your D level very much.
Those white spots I used to have too....looks like vitiligo spots...I was told it's an autoimmune
reaction....most likely from gluten damage.  I'm off gluten more than 6 years...My white spots
totally went away...My son had them too.....his faded after going off gluten for the last 4 years.


Yes but your D level rose without taking K.  The dermatologist said a long name not vitiligo. If it is from gluten, then I have to stop it for 3 years to see if there's any difference.  Dr. D said he didn't think I was gluten intolerant but that I had a hard time digesting regular GMO wheat.  
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Yes but your D level rose without taking K.  The dermatologist said a long name not vitiligo. If it is from gluten, then I have to stop it for 3 years to see if there's any difference.  Dr. D said he didn't think I was gluten intolerant but that I had a hard time digesting regular GMO wheat.  


Yes, my  D rose without supplemental K (might have gotten some K from diet) but the issue is that without enough K, any calcium I was utilizing  was also going into soft tissue.  That's a major problem even if I have strong bones. K insures that calcium only goes into bones. It's not good if calcium winds up in soft tissue...causes calcification.  A very bad thing.



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Yes, my  D rose without supplemental K (might have gotten some K from diet) but the issue is that without enough K, any calcium I was utilizing  was also going into soft tissue.  That's a major problem even if I have strong bones. K insures that calcium only goes into bones. It's not good if calcium winds up in soft tissue...causes calcification.  A very bad thing.


Have you had a bone density test? I thought you had one done and your bones were fine?

The only way I'd know is if I have another one done and it's improving. I have osteopenia from not getting enough D in my body.  
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Have you had a bone density test? I thought you had one done and your bones were fine?

The only way I'd know is if I have another one done and it's improving. I have osteopenia from not getting enough D in my body.  


Had one two weeks ago....waiting to find out results when I see PCP next week.  Never had one
before this.  Aging ups the risk for all women's bones to lose density. But when I broke my pelvis
almost 2 years ago, fracture healed quickly and bone wasn't shattered...so orthopedist told me
when he saw my Xrays and MRI that my bones looked strong. That was all I ever knew about
my bones.  Will find out more pretty soon.




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...so orthopedist told me when he saw my Xrays and MRI that my bones looked strong. That was all I ever knew about
my bones.  Will find out more pretty soon.


Oh..that's what you told me. I remember you said the doctor told you your bones were strong so I thought you meant they did a bone density test while you were in the hospital.. ok. gottcha.
Good luck.. you're bones are probably strong.  

I can't seem to take more than 2 capsules of the D. I tried 6,000 and I felt sick..like it was too much at once. I can't seem to take more than 5,000. Well, I was taking 2,000 and my levels dropped..also took it in the morning with a small meal. Now I'm taking the 4,000 with dinner.
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What if you took it twice a day instead of taking it all at once?


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What if you took it twice a day instead of taking it all at once?


I still got a sick feeling from it.  
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I still got a sick feeling from it.  


Maybe you're having problems digesting oils/fats....and might be super low in the digestive
enzyme lipase.  Natural lipase would be found in avocado.  How does that rate on your SWAMI?
Perhaps a little avocado when you take that supplement might help you digest it better...\

http://health-science-spirit.com/lipase.html

Just an update....Called for a fax of my bone scan.  I'm borderline osteopenia...but doctor said
everyone over 50 is generally losing some bone density and definitely said not to worry because
I'm far away from osteoporosis....  He said it's rare to see someone my age who hasn't
lost bone density to some degree.  He suggested calcium and Vitamin D....But in all reality,
Dina Khader (nutritionist) told me it's magnesium, Vitamin D and K2....and to get calcium from foods. I'm also taking a liquid Arctic mineral formula from Dina which has a whole mixture of
natural minerals...I think made from desalinated sea water.  Oh, and to get some weight bearing
exercise.   Back to bouncing on rebounder.


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Maybe you're having problems digesting oils/fats....and might be super low in the digestive
enzyme lipase.  Natural lipase would be found in avocado.
Just an update....Called for a fax of my bone scan.  I'm borderline osteopenia....


Well I was just about to say that avacado was a black dot, because it was..so I stopped eating it..
Then, I decided to look at my swami and it's been moved to a diamond since my last Dr. D visit!
  I can start eating avacado again.   I must have missed that one. I only notice the foods that I can't eat anymore...

That's not bad at all for your bone density test! Good news!  I read a forum message about a woman who was  bone tested and had osteopenia so she started taking taking calcium phosphate (that's what I was taking "Posture-D" brand" for a few years) and she was re tested a year later and she was worse! She went to another doctor who gave her more vitamin D, plus she started drinking Pacific ultra soymilk and stopped the phosphate and when she was re tested her bones were almost normal again!  I think the calcium 'phosphate' caused the osteopenia because I was taking it and I have osteopenia too!  I'm doing the same thing. I'm taking a lot more D, and stopped the calcium phosphate and I'm taking magnesium and a multi mineral plus drinking almond and soy milk..trying to get my calcium from my diet. I hope it works for me too!
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Interesting. Thanks for the link. Phosphoric acid?  I can't understand if that's related to calcium phosphate?  I don't know chemistry well.

Anyway, Joyce Vedral is your age and she has the bone density of a 20 year old from lifting free weights. I don't think she lifts more than 20 lbs..being an advanced body builder but check her out she looks very fit.  http://www.joycevedral.com/
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Anyway, Joyce Vedral is your age and she has the bone density of a 20 year old from lifting free weights. I don't think she lifts more than 20 lbs..being an advanced body builder but check her out she looks very fit.  http://www.joycevedral.com/


WOW, this woman is nearly 70?  My face looks and feels younger than my muscles and bones...
Wonder what this woman's BT is and what she eats to stay that fit and strong looking.  Impressive!



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WOW, this woman is nearly 70?  My face looks and feels younger than my muscles and bones...
Wonder what this woman's BT is and what she eats to stay that fit and strong looking.  Impressive!


I know..! She looks like she's got a 30 year old body! All the books that I have from her, she advocates the old fashioned low fat diet!   I bet she's an A because we do well on a low fat diet

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I just don't understand this: I've been taking 5000 IU's of Vit D (proabably averaging 5 days a week for a year). Last year I had my Vit D levels checked; they were at 54. That was before taking any Vit D.

This year, after taking the above mentioned dosage, my levels tested at 28!   They ran the test twice. And now the doctor says my levels are low and to take 400 IU's a day to bring it up!

What gives????


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I just don't understand this: I've been taking 5000 IU's of Vit D (proabably averaging 5 days a week for a year). Last year I had my Vit D levels checked; they were at 54. That was before taking any Vit D.

This year, after taking the above mentioned dosage, my levels tested at 28!   They ran the test twice. And now the doctor says my levels are low and to take 400 IU's a day to bring it up!

What gives????


Is it the same lab?  Same test?  It makes no sense that taking 5,000 iu of D would make your level
go down...Confusing to say the least.



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Same lab, same doctor.


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This year, after taking the above mentioned dosage, my levels tested at 28!   They ran the test twice. And now the doctor says my levels are low and to take 400 IU's a day to bring it up!
What gives????


Where you out in the sun a lot more the year before? Have you been indoors more? Also, the amount of food that you eat when you take the D supplement has a lot to do with your body being able to absorb it. I was taking my D in the morning because some doctor on tv who I won't name said it worked better that way.  I originally was taking the D with my biggest meal of the day which is the standard recommendation.  Obviously my body didn't absorb the D in the morning because my levels dropped from 40 to 38. So I went back to taking it with dinner. I'm due for a D check. They also mention taking magnesium with D to help absorption which I do at dinner and not in the morning.  400 won't bring it up. I took 400 a day for years and my level was 25.
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I've been taking it in the morning, along with my other supps, then eating breakfast. I've been in the sun the same amount as I always am, and been eating the same foods as I regularly do. I'm perplexed, but I'm going to ask for a redraw of blood and another test. Meanwhile, I'll just do what I've been doing.


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I've been taking it in the morning, along with my other supps, then eating breakfast. I've been in the sun the same amount as I always am, and been eating the same foods as I regularly do. I'm perplexed, but I'm going to ask for a redraw of blood and another test. Meanwhile, I'll just do what I've been doing.


Well you can try taking it with your biggest meal. That is the standard recommendation. Have you been dieting? Eating less?  if you're not eating enough your body won't absorb the D
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Everything is the same. I've actually been eating more, now that I'm back in the habit of eating three meals.


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