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Canadj
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Thank you all for the information.  I'm still looking for answers on how quickly you started to feel "normal" after increasing the dose.  You all speak of your numbers, but not the experience.
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Saw my endo yesterday.  I was at 46 taking 5000 IUs a day.  He's upped it to 7000/day with a recheck in a few months.  I was upset at the 46 because I've been really rigorous about taking it every day with my Cal-Mag-Zinc and it still was only 46 and I'v been outside playing golf too.  He's a big D fan and says there are so many things linked to lack of Vitamin D...MS, possibly even autism.  
He also has me trying a new thyroid pill, Tirosint.  It's a gel formula with no bad excipients I hear.  Trying it for 3 weeks, then we'll see.
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I took 15,000 yesterday because I bumped into some sick friends at the library. .


You'd be better off taking elderberry if you run into sick people..I have a bottle of sambucal syrup in my fridge for just such an emergency.   I like Proberry Caps from NAP. They also have a liquid.. Proberry caps are great because you can carry them around with you and if yous suspect flu or cold contamination, just pop a couple right there.  
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Saw my endo yesterday.  I was at 46 taking 5000 IUs a day.  He's upped it to 7000/day with a recheck in a few months.  I was upset at the 46 because I've been really rigorous about taking it every day with my Cal-Mag-Zinc and it still was only 46 and I'v been outside playing golf too.  


Thanks for the Endo info Jane. I have the same problem. My D levels rise very slowly as well. I thought it was an A thing..I guess not.
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MF,

Well, I don't really know for sure.  He is not a big believer in eating meat, fish, or dairy for all and it seems paraticularly for me .  

The inflammation with my leg (which has been ongoing but is definitely getting better) will get much better taking Vegan Omega 3 oil.

Nothing is just black or white sometimes.  Sometimes it's just try this;  if it doesn't work try that.

Case in point is the extreme variables in the numbers for people who are taking Vitamin D and what doctors consider a normal range.

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Thank you all for the information.  I'm still looking for answers on how quickly you started to feel "normal" after increasing the dose.  You all speak of your numbers, but not the experience.


It probably depends on the person...not the answer you were looking for?

I found myself getting sick more often than usual, and Chloe mentioned I should get my Vit D level checked. At the time I was uninsured, so I put that off; instead, I started taking 5000 IUs of Vit D per day, and after 2-3 months got my levels checked: 56. I haven't gotten sick since, but I don't normally anyway.

I hope someone who was really low will chime in on this question...


It is not my responsibility to convince anyone of anything.
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Definitely! I felt icky last night and earlier today but had some beef and rice cake soup - Korean traditional dish (because some friends wanted to eat out). I guess the meal is compliant, come to think of it.

I feel much better and plan on making some elderberry tea and putting a few drops of Thieve's oil into it and drinking it before bed.

I forgot about my sambucal syrup! I leave home around 9:00 ish and get back closer to 11 p.m or midnight... so I am hardly home now. I really should pack the sambucal or leave it at my office.

Thank you for the reminder!

I hope you are enjoying classes!!!! Hugs!

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You'd be better off taking elderberry if you run into sick people..I have a bottle of sambucal syrup in my fridge for just such an emergency.   I like Proberry Caps from NAP. They also have a liquid.. Proberry caps are great because you can carry them around with you and if yous suspect flu or cold contamination, just pop a couple right there.  




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The inflammation with my leg (which has been ongoing but is definitely getting better) will get much better taking Vegan Omega 3 oil.


I understand.    I know we have to use our own discretion with our diets sometimes. After all, the doctors are not gods.     I realized I can't have my levels tested this weekend ..unless my son gives me money.. I'm so broke this week..  
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I forgot about my sambucal syrup! I leave home around 9:00 ish and get back closer to 11 p.m or midnight... so I am hardly home now. I really should pack the sambucal or leave it at my office.


I really like the proberry caps. They're a lot easier to carry around than sambucal syrup...(messy)

http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NP065

There's 120 capsules in the bottle so it lasts a long time. works out to $8 a month if you took one a day.

Oh yes, I'm enjoying my studies..Just trying to fit it in my day..is a little tricky.  I'm so glad I don't have classes to go to.
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Thank you Drea for answering my question.
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Quoted from Canadj
Thank you all for the information.  I'm still looking for answers on how quickly you started to feel "normal" after increasing the dose.  You all speak of your numbers, but not the experience.


I didn't really *notice* any obvious changes when I started the D supplementation. I have so many complex things going on with my  body  and my life right now that it's hard to pinpoint any one factor in why I feel good, or why I don't  feel good. My father was very ill and dying during the time I started supplementing, and then my daughter had pertusses for a few weeks (I got very little sleep during that time) while my levels were increasing. My father passed away a few days before I got that 83 level back from the lab, and there's just no way to sort out what was caused by grief, what was caused by all the avoids I ate the week following his death (and I don't regret eating those foods, not for one minute!) and what was caused by my magnesium levels, or how much exercise I was getting.

Even without the family stress, fibromyalgia is a condition of ups and downs. There's hardly ever just one factor in a fibro-flare, nor is there only one factor when  I start to feel really good. Vitamin D is just one piece of this complex puzzle. I haven't  gotten it all figured out yet.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  13yo B+ Jack


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Hey guys

I went to the pharmacy to get my vitamin D prescription (20,000ius twice daily for a week)...

the pharmacist wouldn't give it to me. They were all so shocked! They asked me all these questions about why I was taking it, who prescribed it for me,  if i'd been admitted to hospital - apparantly the dose was too high and they normally prescribed 20,000ius a WEEK.

they had to try to get hold of my doctor for about ten days- it turns out that a local hospital recommended I take that dose based on my lab values - I am pretty shocked... and a bit worried about my kidneys (stones) and my parathyroid (calcium levels? - can't tell if mine are high or low?) eek.

I only just found this dosage thing out today, and am seeing my 'official' doctor next tuesday to properly discuss things (lady who gave me the prescription before was filling in for official doctor).

I was just wondering whether anyone experienced side effects from taking large dose vitamin D? I'm taking 6000ius a day at the moment.. working my way up as I do with supplements as I tend to be sensitive to everything. Do you guys take it with calcium? I'm not sure whether to take it with calcium or not. Side effects wise - there has been a super massive increase in bone and muscle pain this week - everyday flat out in bed and I can't really walk down stairs without my legs being in agony. I have read some things about vitamin D going into the bones and doing something...

or maybe I just have bone flu ?  
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NIagreen, your prescription dose sounds extremely high... I can't answer any of your questions but I'd like for you to read what the Vitamin D council says about D toxicity...I'm hoping you discuss
your symptoms and get your questions answered by your official doctor before you take 40,000 iu per day!

http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/about-vitamin-d/what-is-vitamin-d/vitamin-d-toxicity/


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Re sun beds - "Sunbeds produce ultraviolet rays, just like the sun. In fact, a sunbed can be even more dangerous than the sun. It’s estimated that 20 minutes in a solarium can be equivalent to approximately four hours in the sun." (BBC, The Science of Sunshine, bbc.co.uk)

also

While the sun blockers don't prevent skin cancer, they can be effective in stopping Vitamin D production, one of the main benefits from sun exposure. "But the increasing use of sunscreens and the decreasing amount of time spent outdoors, especially by children, has contributed to what many scientists believe is an increasing problem of vitamin D deficiency."(Jeremy Laurance, The virtues of Vitamin D: It's time we saw the light , The Independent, September 18, 2007)


UVB / UVA http://www.ihealthtube.com/aspx/viewvideo.aspx?v=155207f78ebfee7b


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Basically the vitamin D is absorbed onto the skin over a 48 hour period when inthe sun so if you wash the skin within 48 hours of being in the sun less vitamin D is absorbed, worse still if you use soap,  apparently  - comment welcome..


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I'm really happy because Chloe found me vitamin D from fish oil instead of sheeps wool (lanolin)! This is so great! I bet I can take that!! I must get it. It's by Blue Bonnett  
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I'm really happy because Chloe found me vitamin D from fish oil instead of sheeps wool (lanolin)! This is so great! I bet I can take that!! I must get it. It's by Blue Bonnett  


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When I first got my levels checked, they were in the low 20's and after taking about 2300ius/ day for 6 months, they were up in the 40's.  For the following year, I maybe got 1 or 2 bugs, whereas I had been sick many times the previous year.  During a three month span, I was sick every other week & the last month I was sick for 3 full weeks.  It was a drastic improvement.  I had slowly backed down to 1000ius daily & then a souple days a week as I didn't want my levels to go too high, but I kind of shot myself in the foot as I've been getting sick again.  I started back up taking 2300ius/ day again & I'll keep you posted on when I feel differently.  My DS2 brought home another bug & I feel a little run down, but I'm curious to see if the D3 kicks it out sooner.


Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again!
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When I first got my levels checked, they were in the low 20's and after taking about 2300ius/ day for 6 months, they were up in the 40's.  For the following year, I maybe got 1 or 2 bugs, whereas I had been sick many times the previous year. .


Everything I've read on D levels state that it should be well over 50. I'm going for the 80's or 90's because 100 is still consdidered "normal".  

I'm getting tested. I'm due. I've been taking dry D and one that PP found me on Amazon that's whole food vegan D3. The D3 from lanolin makes me itchy all over like crazy and I break out in a rash...
Plus I've been getting a lot more sun this Spring/Summer. So I'd like to see how I'm doing.  
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Perhaps I am naieve to this subject, but I never have taken vitamin d. Do you think I need it?

This might help with the calcium and my teeth as well.
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Basically the vitamin D is absorbed onto the skin over a 48 hour period when inthe sun so if you wash the skin within 48 hours of being in the sun less vitamin D is absorbed, worse still if you use soap,  apparently  - comment welcome..
I had read this too, but I spent hours researching & could never come up with a conclusive answer as to whether it was fact or just opinion... Seems there are as many arguments against as there are for
Personally, I avoid too much tap water (fluoride + chlorine among other nasties) & soaps on my arms & legs etc anyway, so no problem avoiding washing off the effects of the sun on my skin... My problem is more getting off my computer on my days off & getting out in the sun

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I need to get on this ASAP.  There's no reason for me to have low levels of vitamin D but honestly I don't totally understand what I've read.  I was sick a lot last year, don't want to spend Christmas Day in bed with a cold.
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FYI -

Even if you live in a sunny area, i.e. Los Angeles, but do not get at least 20-30 minutes of sunshine a day without sunscreen, you may be deficient.

My sister lived in L.A. all her life (except for her 4.5 years at Berkeley) came down with vit. D. deficiency. She works in an office building all day long and gets uv filtered sunlight through her car and home windows and hardly gets any sunshine... so, definitely something to ponder.

I have been doing 10-15,000 D3 daily at the moment, trying to bring my levels up... so far, so good.


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Sunshine provides a different form of vitamin D (water-soluble). It's better than the fat-soluble stuff you find in supplements. Be sure to get both.
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Everything I've read on D levels state that it should be well over 50. I'm going for the 80's or 90's because 100 is still consdidered "normal".  


Mayflowers, I think my level was at 47 at the time, so 50 wasn't far off.  For me, it was enough of an increase that it really boosted my immunity.  Then silly me, I tapered off.  Now I'm back to rebuilding, but I won't have mine tested again until I go for my annual physical in Feb.


Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again!
Goal weight acheived!!  Woo Hoo!!!!
DH of 18 yrs. O+, DS 17yo O, DS 5yo O, not sure on the boys' RH status.

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