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@ Drea: Thanks! After being so sick and having difficulty at school, I am trying to do everything in my power to get my vitamin D levels high enough so I do not have to worry in the winter.


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My Vit D levels were "so low I don't know how you get out of bed.." said my GP in 2009, since taking 3000 - 5000 iu per day of vit d and two bio iron tables with vit c.  My Vit D blood levels have risen from 32 back then to 67 in 2010 to 97 this year.  I have been anemic since I was 15 so the iron supplements are necessary but I would never have guessed I needed Vit D too as I live in the "sunny country"  but I think as we get older our skin loses the ability to make enough Vit D and with the huge sunscreen message the government here pushes our skin rarely sees the sun.....
Since taking them I am definately less tired and I rarely get "bugs" that are going around which I used to get all the time.  I hate taking tablets everyday but the results speak for themselves - I won't stop taking them now, may have to reduce the amount though if the levels get too high!!!
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Serenity, wow! Out here, the doctors did not think 14 was too low! It was enough for me to be constantly sick and sluggish. I would use a tanning bed just to stimulate uvb. I would lay in it for under 10 minutes since I have Asian skin. I did get a bit dark but I did it for the vit. d production. It helped a lot because I was feeling better after the sessions but it made my skin and hair super dry.

I am hoping that taking the extra 1k daily will keep me from having to visit the tanning bed in the winter.


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Hmm I wonder if Aust have different measures to the US like the ounces vs ml??  But anyway I feel soooo much better for it and I have recently read articles stating that low Vit D can be also linked to some types of cancer so for the family now it is a must!!!
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I finally got my Vit D tested, and while the doctor told me my number was fine, I think it's still a tad low: 56. I'll stick with the 5000 IU's daily for a couple of months (how long should I wait to get tested again?), then ask for a re-test. Who knows where my level was when I first started taking the Vit D in the first place a couple of months ago..


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You're doing better than me Drea.  I was at 40 in the spring after taking 5-10 thousand for a year. I don't know what my absorption problem is..   This Spring/Summer, I was walking at least 30 mins a day in the sun, trying to wear a take top, and shorts with no sunscreen. You have to expose a lot of skin.

Plus I was taking 5,000 ius a day. I have a light tan but I didn't bake on the beach this year.. I still feel lousy. I'm still tired and experience mild depression.  The only thing I noticed is my immunity to viruses is a little better. I bought a bottle of vegetarian vtiamin D but I heard from Chloe that she read and sent me links, that the vegetarian form could be toxic in the body.   So  another question to ask Dr. D.
I like to get tested twice a year because I was really deficient.  Drea you could get away with once a year I think. What do you think?
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Dr. John Cannnell, the foremost Vitamin D researcher formulated what he believes belongs in a Vitamin D supplement.  This is his patented formula.  I was thinking two things.  One is that nothing
about Vitamin D research ever considered individuality....neither blood type nor genotype...so from
that perspective, is it possible that we all have a different average target to reach.  Ideally, the
vitamin D the Vitamin D council says we should have might not really apply if this subject were
explored based on our specific genetics.  I mean how is it possible that people living in Siberia
would ever get the same amount of sun as those living in Africa?  And if Vitamin D had to do with
immunity and longevity based on us all reaching a level of optimum D, I'm wondering how those
in Siberia survived and had offspring that were even moderately healthy IF all was depending in
having a high level of Vitamin D.

This is Dr. Cannell's Vitamin D formula ingredients.....Even if you don't take any of the ingredients
as supplement form, perhaps the foods that contain these ingredients might help absorption.

Vitamin D's influence on key biological functions vital to one's health and well-being mandates that vitamin D3 supplementation can no longer be ignored by individuals striving to achieve and maintain a greater state of health.* Formulated by the Executive Director of the Vitamin D Council, Dr. John J.Cannell, Purity's new Vitamin D3 Complex is a synergistic blend of Vitamin D3 with several targeted nutrients which complement many of the Vitamin D3's desirable health benefits.*

Going Beyond D3

In addition to the powerful dosage of Vitamin D3, Dr. Cannell's Advanced D Formula™ delivers a combination of several cutting edge nutritional ingredients shown to synergistically help promote proper Vitamin D metabolism and utilization in the body.*

Fruitex B® is a patented boron/calcium complex that has been shown to uniquely support normal Vitamin D metabolism, maintain healthy joint comfort and flexibility, and promote healthy bones.*

Vitamin K2 is a special form of Vitamin K that has been researched for its special ability to support bone health, arterial health and cardiovascular health. Working in combination with Vitamin D, Vitamin K2's main job is to help make sure that calcium winds up in the right places, like the bones, and not in the wrong places, like blood vessel walls.*

Magnesium Citrate is a key mineral that is involved in hundreds of enzymatic processes in human cells. As a supplement, Magnesium Citrate plays a key role in bone health, immunity, cardiovascular health, muscle and nerve function, and many other essential areas. Dr. Cannell's Advanced D features Magnesium Citrate because it has been shown to be advantageous in terms of absorption.*

Taurine is an important amino acid that plays a key role in muscle and nerve tissue function. Research also suggests that Taurine may play a useful role in promoting healthy Vitamin D metabolism.*


I'm still perplexed by the range of acceptable D levels.  My sister who had a brain tumor had her
D measured and it was 34...Her doctor said "it's within the range, so you're fine".  I was screaming
inside my head (because I know my sister wouldn't listen to ME over her doctor)....but still, there
must be something about D levels for some people that might be okay at lower level while for
others, it needs to be higher.


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Even if the "healthy range" of vitamin D is about the same in all people (which it may not be) we'd still need individual routes to get there. The traditional people in Siberia may have gotten their vitamin D from consuming certain animal fats, while those in Africa got it from the sun.

For most people, D3 is the better absorbed form, but somebody on this thread (was it Drea?) found the exact opposite for her personally- her body couldn't use the D3, but the vegetarian D2 was well absorbed by her Type A body. And some of us simply need much higher doses than others to acheive healthy levels. I became deficient when taking 5,000 iu of D3 daily, but brought my levels up quickly by taking 10,000 iu daily.

I had my vitamin D level re-tested last week, and my 16yo daughter was tested for the first time the same day. I'm still waiting for our lab results. My doctor wanted me to get the level re-tested every 3 months, but I slacked on that a bit, and it will only work out to 3 times this year: the first test in November, a re-test in March and then another in August. It should have been February, May, then August. In 3 more months it will be November again and time for another physical and re-doing all my labs.


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Wow! My recent lab showed that I was at 33 and my doctor said it was good! I measured at 14 when I was sick and kept getting sick. The doctor just said my level was "low" and my mother's doctor said that it was "moderately low". I barely had any energy and could not function for more than 3-4 hours a day with 40 oz of coffee! So you can imagine how bad it was. I had severe shortness of breath, too.

Ruthiegirl mentioned Chloe's post about doing better on D2 than D3. I am on both right now. However, Mark from this forum told me to cut out the D2 and only take D3. He sent me a youtube link. I found other research that supported the link he sent me. So far, I am doing quite well.

I am hoping that my levels are getting better. It is a bit disconcerting knowing that my doctors did not think my vit. D. level of 14 was bad.

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I'm still perplexed by the range of acceptable D levels.  My sister who had a brain tumor had her
D measured and it was 34...Her doctor said "it's within the range, so you're fine".  I was screaming
inside my head (because I know my sister wouldn't listen to ME over her doctor)....but still, there
must be something about D levels for some people that might be okay at lower level while for
others, it needs to be higher.




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Hmm I wonder if Aust have different measures to the US like the ounces vs ml??  But anyway I feel soooo much better for it and I have recently read articles stating that low Vit D can be also linked to some types of cancer so for the family now it is a must!!!
Hi Serenity - I just had my levels checked recently while in Aus & they came back as low - measured 25, from memory - in the lowest bracket they can be

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Wow! My recent lab showed that I was at 33 and my doctor said it was good! I measured at 14 when I was sick and kept getting sick. The doctor just said my level was "low" and my mother's doctor said that it was "moderately low". I barely had any energy and could not function for more than 3-4 hours a day with 40 oz of coffee! So you can imagine how bad it was. I had severe shortness of breath, too.

Ruthiegirl mentioned Chloe's post about doing better on D2 than D3. I am on both right now. However, Mark from this forum told me to cut out the D2 and only take D3. He sent me a youtube link. I found other research that supported the link he sent me. So far, I am doing quite well.

I am hoping that my levels are getting better. It is a bit disconcerting knowing that my doctors did not think my vit. D. level of 14 was bad.





Just to set the record straight...I think it was Mayflowers who said she had trouble with D3
and took a prescription D2 supplement which brought her D level up somewhat...but nearly enough.  She didn't get anywhere near the great results Ruthie did taking 10,000 iu of D.

And for the first time my D was ever tested, I had only been taking 2,000 iu of D for about 3-4
years.  My blood level was 55...the highest my doctor had ever seen in a patient...But of course,
his other patients obviously weren't taking any D.

I took only D3....made by NOW....and then I upped my dose to 5,000.  After I broke my pelvis
and arm, I took 10,000 all winter....trying to heal bones...although orthopedist said "that's
way too much".  Didn't care...My level got up to 68 in a few months....but still, Ruthie got into
the 80s with that much.

SO is there something about absorption?  Blood type?  Genetics?  And the source of the product
or food?  I'm certainly not someone who sits in the sun very much.  When my level was 55, I
was not a sun worshiper.....I wasn't in the sun much growing up either, even though I lived in the
south...I guess I don't really like being in the sun more than a few minute at a time...the light
bothers me...And then my osteopath said to me....being annoyed by the light is a central nervous
system issue....sympathetic/parasympathetic thing...He can adjust me and suddenly the light
doesn't bother me....but I noticed, after a month on Cortiguard, I don't mind being in bright
light....Found that really interesting...

Stress unbalances the sympathetic nervous system....and therefore kept me out of sunlight
because my eyes couldn't adjust to bright light when I was unbalanced.  

http://www.cs.unc.edu/Research/MIDAG/pubs/papers/ISBI04-Jomier-pupil.pdf

Sorry, off topic....but vitamin D levels are really too low in most people who are tested.






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Oops! Did not mean to confuse you with another poster, Chloe!

Yeah, it is funny how my doctor minimized my condition because I was really bad. I am taking 10,000 of D3 daily right now.


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Oops! Did not mean to confuse you with another poster, Chloe!

Yeah, it is funny how my doctor minimized my condition because I was really bad. I am taking 10,000 of D3 daily right now.


It's fine....so much going on here....as long as we know we're talking about vitamin D...

I think you'll feel a lot better getting your D level up some.

Doctors are really so confused about calling the lower end of a spectrum normal..If a person is at the very lowest point of a range that spans 80 points or more, how could that be perceived as normal?

BTW....I've posted this link many times before but this is the Vitamin D Council.....to me, it's the
gold standard for current information about vitamin D.

http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/health-conditions/?gclid=CMOvlPih66oCFQmD5QodFS5xPg

http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/about-vitamin-d/how-to-get-your-vitamin-d/vitamin-d-supplementation/


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For most people, D3 is the better absorbed form, but somebody on this thread (was it Drea?) found the exact opposite for her personally- her body couldn't use the D3, but the vegetarian D2 was well absorbed by her Type A body.


It wasn't me .



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My doctor said that 56 was "fine", too. And even though I liked her as a PCP, she was absolutely *not* about alternative health care. I wondered for a split second whether to talk to her about my lifestyle/food plan, but realized (by several of her own comments) that it would have fallen on deaf ears.  

She told me to stop taking 5000 IU's of D3, and to go down to 800 IU's per day. Not.


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Since it has not been mentioned recently, I thought I would point out that DPN sells vitamin D, in a formula along with strontium and Vitamin K.

More info:

http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NP066


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Ooh, thank you C-sharp! I forget to look for anything other than Deflect and Polyflora!


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Hi Serenity - I just had my levels checked recently while in Aus & they came back as low - measured 25, from memory - in the lowest bracket they can be



Thanks for the update possum - yours are very low too....I have just got a test back and the GP said the levels were good now, I will question the numbers when I go in next.  I take 4-5000 iu of D3 per day now and try to get sun on my hands and face a couple of times a week - not easy when it is so cold!!!
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OK, I got the lab results for my 16yo daughter (but I'm still waiting for my doctor to call back with my results.) Her Vitamin D level is 58.  Does this mean she doesn't need to supplement?


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Yes it was me that has trouble with D3. I was taking it again and I'm breaking out in a rash. grrr.
I looked up D2 on PubMed and all the studies or most of them that showed an improvement in a condition was using D2.  I might have to take D2 and maybe even go to a tanning salon because what else is my option?  Anyone actually go to a tanning salon for that purpose?  It's interesting that a year of 5-10 thousand ius a day only got my levels up to 40

I'm trying to get my D levels up to 90's or so. I'm getting tested again in September. Normal range is 32-100 but I think 32 is very low because Chloe's sister got a brain tumor with 34. Cancer is one of the risks that increase with low D levels
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58 seems good for now but when winter hits, the levels will drop unless she continues to supplement. My doctor told me to try and build up my levels in the summer in preparation for winter. I am at 33 (as of the end of June) which is much better than 14!

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OK, I got the lab results for my 16yo daughter (but I'm still waiting for my doctor to call back with my results.) Her Vitamin D level is 58.  Does this mean she doesn't need to supplement?




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Hmm, my levels tested at 56, which I think is low (though my doctor thought I should drop down the D3 that I'm currently taking from 5000 IUs to 800 IUs a day...not). I'd like to get myself up to the 75-80 range.


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I read that you shouldn't take calcium at the same time as strontium.  If you take the NAP vitamin D with strontium, you should take calcium at the opposite end of the day.  

Any one else heard this?
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Yes. the strontium will compete with other minerals for absorption and it will lose. It's best to take strontium on an empty stomach with no other minerals.
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OK, the nurse called me back today. My current vitamin D level is 64. That's with taking 10,000 iu per day and trying to remember to sit in the sun for 10 minutes around noontime (admittedly, I haven't been very consistent about that.)

I only got my levels up to 83 by taking 15-20 iu some days and not really paying attention to how many pills I was taking daily, nor of how many it was for the whole week.

I clearly need to keep taking 10,000 iu as a daily maintenance dose indefinitely.


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