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Luana
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I usually take flax oil but also alternate with hemp oil.  I just bought this Canadian brand of hemp oil and they have a good write-up on balancing Omega 6 with Omega 3.  It's good information to know about the oils:

http://manitobaharvest.com/art.....Right-for-Me%3F.html


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Thanks, Luana.  

According to this article, flax oil would be more suited to someone like myself, who eats a lot of nuts, which are rich in Omega 6.



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new to this part of the diet omega 3 and 6 ratios, but i have read recently that the best source is from fish oils, perhaps i 'm mistaken i read so much . or maybe it's different for each blood type.

i take a fish oil supplement from Dr D's supps. explorer

that site sure sells a lot of hemp stuff , so perhaps not the best place to information on hemp. lol


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There are no lignans in hemp.
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A book I was just reading last night said that chia seeds are SUPER high in omega 3's.  And yes, fish, and red meats and butter from the good, grass fed red meats like lamb I think are all high in omega 3's.

And yes flax is too I guess.  But why are they saying hemp is so much better?  I don't understand.  It is a diamond superfood for me, and I may be interested in trying this.  I've never tried it yet.


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There are no lignans in hemp.


I think that is not true.

Hemp does contain some lignans.

And thus hemp oil may contain lignans, even though it may not at as high concentration as in flax seed oil.



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I think that is not true.

Hemp does contain some lignans.

And thus hemp oil may contain lignans, even though it may not at as high concentration as in flax seed oil.



The concentrations are not even close; the difference is night and day. Still, my mind is open to a better source if you have one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lignan

I would also like to note that flax is not recommended for everyone. I believe there is a study floating around somewhere that shows that flax actually increases the risk of a certain cancer (I believe prostate) in some people.
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for high lignam content, why not look into the legumes you get as superfoods and diamonds


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There are no lignans in hemp.



Quoted from Mark


The concentrations are not even close; the difference is night and day. Still, my mind is open to a better source if you have one.



I am not arguing that the concentration is large in hemp.

I am not arguing that the concentration is high as flax.

I am arguing that the lignan content of hemp is more than none.

The oil can be processed to remove nearly all the lignans that was originally there. But you can do that with flax oil as well.  In fact high lignan flax oils are high because ground flaxseed has been



The concentration of lignans in beans is much lower than in flaxseed.

(micrograms per 100 grams)

Flaxseed 300,000
Kidney 248
Edamame 311
Brown beans 26
Baked beans 37
Greens beans 67  
peas 34
Tofu 124
Sprouted soybeans 124


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while on the lignan subject.....found some interesting quotes among my notes
take or leave according to intrest

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Special need for Lignans: some body measurements  (waist to hip, body asymmetries) show a need to balance out certain hormones (androgens and estrogens) to accomplish this certain foods which are high in these important plant antioxidants. Are the White Bean.


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Kudzu is a marvelous source of lignans as well
Other aromatase inhibitors include high-lignan flaxseed oil and the flavones
Apigenin (found in chamomile) and Chrysin (found in passion flower).


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honokiol, a plant lignan isolated from the bark and/or seed cones of the Magnolia tree. The Chinese call it “hou po”, and use it to treat digestive disorders.


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candida does not like the EFA's and lignans the flax seeds have. If you
want something to attach to the candida, stinging nettle according to Dr D
actually agglutinates candida very well and flushes it out of your system


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Flaxseeds also contain lignans, which have mild estrogenic, antiestrogenic, and steroidlike activity.  These problems are not present with flaxseed oil, gently heating it eliminates the toxic cyanoglycosides. The cyanogenic nitrates interfere with the thyroid gland’s ability to take up iodine and may lead to goiter or other thyroid problems.


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Rice milk has more lignans than carbs. Rice has more carbs than lignans.


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I am not arguing that the concentration is large in hemp.

I am not arguing that the concentration is high as flax.

I am arguing that the lignan content of hemp is more than none.

The oil can be processed to remove nearly all the lignans that was originally there. But you can do that with flax oil as well.  In fact high lignan flax oils are high because ground flaxseed has been



The concentration of lignans in beans is much lower than in flaxseed.

(micrograms per 100 grams)

Flaxseed 300,000
Kidney 248
Edamame 311
Brown beans 26
Baked beans 37
Greens beans 67  
peas 34
Tofu 124
Sprouted soybeans 124


Well said.

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while on the lignan subject.....found some interesting quotes among my notes
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Good quotes, wow.

I actually prefer eating freshly ground flax raw, rather than soaked. It also seems to have a more healing effect on my system when I don't soak them. Strange but true.

A health expert that I follow says that eating some raw, unsoaked nuts/seeds increases the amount of trypsin and chymotrypsin, which is good for cancer prevention. Read the book Knockout: A One-Two-Punch to Cancer Prevention.

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Sure learned a lot about lignans in this post  


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I still preferred the Fish Oil guys.. : )
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Different strokes for different folks. Some people lack the ability to convert ALA. Fish oil contains DHA and EPA which ALA is a precursor for. I seriously wonder if this tendency is lacking in type O and part of why O's can do poorly on a vegan diet.Brain fog, etc. Just me thinking aloud, probably a bit too reductionist. CLA from grassfed meat has done wonders for my O hubby. He's on the fish oil, too. Essential Fatty Acids are so important.

I'm actually on krill. Just now incorporating flax in the membrane fluidizer cocktail (having to do with phase angle). Read an article that ALA may release mercury but not necessarily give it a way to exit and it can be redeposited elsewhere. Think I will load up on some cilantro and perhaps some Harmonia after. This is just me rambling about my individuality. Here are some formulas the store offers that were formerly per genotype:

Fish Oil Formula, formerly Hunter/Explorer Synergist, is designed to offset the excess of omega-6 oils found in meats and most vegetable oils, that can cause a relative deficiency of omega-3 oils.

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CLA Formula, formerly Gatherer/Warrior Synergist, was designed to offset metabolic thrifty tendencies by enhancing muscle growth and increasing insulin sensitivity. The best lipid source for this activity is Conjugated Linoleic Acid (CLA).

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Flaxseed Oil Formula (60 caps)
Flaxseed Oil Formula, formerly Teacher/Nomad Synergist, is designed to deliver 1,000 mg of Flax Seed Oil, providing a balance of Omega-3, Omega-6, Omega-9, and Flaxseed Lignans.

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Great thread....very informative, I wasn't sure what Lignans were so I did an onsite search and found this very good link:
http://www.dadamo.com/forum/archived/config.pl?read=138525

I am probably using too much flax seed according to that article and will cut back a bit, but I'm having great results. My skin for the first time in my life is not dry...I was using Krill Oil for a few years and can honestly say it didn't seem to make any difference to my skin. Not arguing for one over the other, just saying. I agree with AKartlover maybe we absorb or convert differently....for I'm sure any number of reasons, which appears to be the case for me.

I have so many sensitivities that I often can't take supplements, even though they don't have certain allergens, I still seem to react to something... Anyway I'm very happy with the results that I'm getting from milling my own organic flax seeds. I make it into a cereal, with a bit of honey and enough water to make it the consistency that I like, and I love it...
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Ah contradictions  

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Flaxseeds also contain lignans, which have mild estrogenic, antiestrogenic, and steroidlike activity.


If I am looking to consume an oil besides EVOO or rice bran oil - which I currently use both of - and my SWAMI rates oils of: flax, hemp,  cod liver & evening primrose as diamonds, which do I go for if I have an ovarian endometrinoma cyst...?

Currently consume allot of nuts and Aromastat / Fem Balance (which I am unsure if it is an aromatase inhibitor or not.)

Oh and I should add my SWAMI says

"GT6 Nomad oil and fats emphasize high lignan, high sterol containing monounsaturate or mixed monounsaturate-polyunsaturate fats. The best fats for GT1 Hunter also stress short chain fatty acids, medium chain saturated fats and high lignan oils; all of which have a regenerating effect on the lining of the digestive tract. Some GT6 Nomad oils are actually anti-viral as well! "
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I can't find hemp oil on the food base or the encyclopedia. can someone point me in a direction for this as i would like to know if it okay for various blood type please

perhaps in america it's not available, but it is over here in the uk.

it's not in the cancer book either

It is on my SWAMI which is cool. and as a diamond too


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Hemp oil is in the GenoType and SWAMI books.

It is available in the US. The intention seems to be that you would buy it as a supplement,

It is more expensive than most alternative oils and it does stand heat well if used in cooking.


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Thanks didn't know you could cook with it although I mainly use my allowance of oils in my basil and garlic pesto. and my one egg a day cooked in a teaspoon of ghee.


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