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They do carry the one on pre-menopause, but I didn't find it at first. It wasn't listed in the books by "Lee, John R., MD" because it was listed under "Lee, John R." I just reserved the premenopause  book and cancelled my reservation for "Hormones Made Simple." I'm also reserving The Natural Superwoman.

I'm not sure when I'll get to either of them  because a novel I've been waiting for is finally "in transit" so I may ignore all other books while reading "The Land of Painted Caves." Earlier this summer I read the first 5 books in that series, and have been waiting for the 6th and final one to be available.


Glad the pre-menopausal book is available in your library.

Enjoy your summer reading!  





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OK, I got some black currant oil yesterday. It's the only source of GLA that's a superfood on my SWAMI. How much should I be taking?


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OK, I got some black currant oil yesterday. It's the only source of GLA that's a superfood on my SWAMI. How much should I be taking?


Wow, would love to try that, not avail here. What is the taste like?

This doesn't help you, but in the fem-balance protocol for type B:
Black Currant seed oil capsules, 500 mg: 2-3 capsules, daily  
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It's a capsule- it doesnt' ahve any taste. I did chew one up to make sure it wasn't rancid (I read about that years ago to test the freshness of fish oil capsules) and it was almost tasteless, but with a  very mild berry flavor.

The bottle said to take 1 capsule, 3 times a day, and I'm wondering if it matters if I take it 3 times a day or take 3 at once in the morning when I take my other supplements.

It just occurred to me that I only checked the supplement area of the store, and I didn't look in the "gourmet oils" section to see if they had any in liquid form over there. I'll have to check that out the next time I'm able to wander the store and look for things (as opposed to rushing through with DS in tow, grabbing one or two specific items.)


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OK, I got some black currant oil yesterday. It's the only source of GLA that's a superfood on my SWAMI. How much should I be taking?


Ruthie, Dr. Nash has me on Black Currant Oil.  I take one 2x per day, although I generally take both together, as I can get too busy and if I don't take them all at once, I will forget.  Each gelcap contains 100 mg.

I am glad you were able to find both Dr. Lee's book on premenopause and Uzzi Reiss' book, The Natural Superwoman.  Uzzi Reiss goes into a huge variety of hormones, some of which I would not use, such as Human Growth Hormone, but the reason I really like his book is that he has quizzes for each hormone that you take to see if supplementing with that particular hormone is appropriate.  I was using Dr. Lee's progesterone cream and it did nothing for me.  Come to find out, I am estrogen deficient and it was clear after I took the quiz in Dr. Reiss's book.  Then my hormone testing confirmed it.  

One word of caution, ladies.  Please do not mess with your hormones on your own.  They require a very delicate balance and should be done by a doctor or naturopath.  I was fortunate to have one of the premier specialists in bio-identical hormones fairly close to home!


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Does it matter if the black currant oil is taken with food or without food? I know vitamin D is best absorbed with dietary fat, is the same true of this oil?


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Does it matter if the black currant oil is taken with food or without food? I know vitamin D is best absorbed with dietary fat, is the same true of this oil?


Ruthie, I checked my printout and it does not specify.  I do take my supplements after a meal because I take enough of them that they can cause stomach upset on an empty stomach.


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Thanks for reminding me Ruthie - been waiting for the next book by Jean M Auel for it seems ages!  So engrossing, entertaining and thought provoking. Funny, there were ads for it at the train stations - they are like painted caves and we haven't changed much since the cave days IMHO!  

I went off Evening Primrose Oil for a week so that it wouldn't affect my hormone test (serum) after checking with Dr, cos it lowers prolactin.  Then I got the worse PMS, moody with lumpy engorged breasts.  I really need that stuff (GLA)!       Dr told me to have the test on day 21 which was my birthday so I had it on day 20 close enough I reckon (she also reckons average cycle is 29 days - when I was regular mine was 28  )

Back on it   - switched to borage (starflower) oil small bottle I got on sale (should try your rancidity test thanks RG) and am hoping it won't affect my liver badly as the one I got isn't "certified free of unsaturated pyrrolizidine alkaloids because of their potential liver toxicity"  http://www.holistic-herbalist.com/borage-oil-a.html  Supposedly the highest amount of GLA in any plant but I'm getting some funny sensations and aftertaste so might not be good.

Hanging to find the results of my test and more info later in the week.  I should look for Dr Lee's books too I think there's only the menopause one at my library.  Hope they didn't put his name different ways too!  


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Borage seed oil is either neutral or a black dot, depending on secretor status. Evening primrose oil is an avoid either way. So that's why I got the black currant seed oil; that's the only beneficial oil on the "high in GLA" list.

How do those three oils rate on your SWAMI? It could be that the type of oil you purchased isn't as good a choice for you. It also could be rancid- especially likely if it was on clearance when you  bought it.


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How does Borage oil rate on your SWAMI, Symbi?  It is a toxin on the book Explorer diet.



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It's neutral - thanks for caring.  Just have enough for 10 days, so it won't harm me too much.  Black currant oil is a diamond and EPO a superfood.  So no wonder!  Haven't seen BCO around, that would be the best.

Just checking the library and they have:
What your doctor may not tell you about premenopause : balance your hormones and your life from thirty to fifty / John R. Lee, Jesse Hanley, and Virginia Hopkins.

and
The natural superwoman : the scientifically backed program for feeling great, looking younger, and enjoying amazing energy at any age / Uzzi Reiss and Yfat Reiss    
reserved both and one other - who knew they'd have 10 books on perimenopause!


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OK, the large print edition fo The Land of Painted Caves is available, along with the two books on peri-menopause that I reserved. Of course, I managed to finish the book (not large print, reserved on DD2's account) last night, so I  won't be needing the large print version.

It was a fun read, but the ending didn't really leave me satisfied. I know somebody told me that this was "book 6 of 6 planned books" but I think there may be a 7th book still to be written. Or perhaps a spin-off series in the same world, but with Ayla not the central character.

So I want to get to the library for those peri-menopause books, but DD2 is still sleeping and will want to pick out books later.  I don't want to go there twice.


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Sign of the times, I guess . . .


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That sounds disappointing.  Endings are always difficult I guess - expectations and all.  

I ordered the large print too cos there are 50 people waiting for the normal ones!  Have stopped using reading glasses and look forward to the next eye test to confirm - I think my eyes are getting better!  One is lazy - my eye that is!


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OK, I got both books. I read "what your doctor may not tell you about premenopuase" first. I'm a little bit confused by some of the information in there. If "estrogen dominance" is the problem with PMS, then why do the symptoms always start right after ovulation, when progesterone is supposed to be released? Why don't I get "PMS-like" symptoms in the first half of the cycle.

I can never be 100% certain if I ovulate or not, but I do notice a definite shift in hormones around mid-cycle; one day my cervix is high and soft, and I have lots of fertile mucus, and the next the mucus is gone, my cervix is firmer and lower, and I suddenly feel a bit crankier and sore- even when it's subtle, I can always tell when I shift into the 2nd half of my cycle. Would I get such sudden hormone shifts if i don't make enough estrogen to ovulate that month?

And the craziest part has to be "we know it can't be from the progesterone, because progesterone levels are higher in pregnant women and women dont' get these symptoms in pregnancy?" Um, really? It's obvious to me that Dr John Lee has never been pregnant. What symptoms am I not supposed to get in pregnancy? Sore breasts? Bloating? Irritability? I got all of those while pregnant! Early pregnancy has always been maddeningly similar to PMS, and with my first, it felt like "super intense PMS that started earlier than usual and then my period never came."

I'm now starting to wonder if any of Dr Lee's explanations on "how hormones make you feel" apply to me at all. I was incredibly frustrated during the descriptions of "normal cycles" when he stated that ovulation can occur anywhere from day 3 to 14 (huh? only until day 14? Day 14 is about the earliest I've ever ovulated, and as late as day 21 used to be normal for me!) and then he  goes on to say that the time from ovulation until menstruation is always around 14 days. (Ok then, Mr Expert, then why on Earth am I getting 16 day luteal phases? What hormonal shift/imbalance does THAT signify?)


I've peeked at "the natural superwoman." The title kind of bugs me, because being a "superwoman" seems anthetical to "setting boundaries and being balanced" which is what the book is about, but overall it seems like great information and will probably help me with DD2's insomnia as well.


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OK, I got both books. I read "what your doctor may not tell you about premenopuase" first. I'm a little bit confused by some of the information in there. If "estrogen dominance" is the problem with PMS, then why do the symptoms always start right after ovulation, when progesterone is supposed to be released? Why don't I get "PMS-like" symptoms in the first half of the cycle.

I can never be 100% certain if I ovulate or not, but I do notice a definite shift in hormones around mid-cycle; one day my cervix is high and soft, and I have lots of fertile mucus, and the next the mucus is gone, my cervix is firmer and lower, and I suddenly feel a bit crankier and sore- even when it's subtle, I can always tell when I shift into the 2nd half of my cycle. Would I get such sudden hormone shifts if i don't make enough estrogen to ovulate that month?

And the craziest part has to be "we know it can't be from the progesterone, because progesterone levels are higher in pregnant women and women dont' get these symptoms in pregnancy?" Um, really? It's obvious to me that Dr John Lee has never been pregnant. What symptoms am I not supposed to get in pregnancy? Sore breasts? Bloating? Irritability? I got all of those while pregnant! Early pregnancy has always been maddeningly similar to PMS, and with my first, it felt like "super intense PMS that started earlier than usual and then my period never came."

I'm now starting to wonder if any of Dr Lee's explanations on "how hormones make you feel" apply to me at all. I was incredibly frustrated during the descriptions of "normal cycles" when he stated that ovulation can occur anywhere from day 3 to 14 (huh? only until day 14? Day 14 is about the earliest I've ever ovulated, and as late as day 21 used to be normal for me!) and then he  goes on to say that the time from ovulation until menstruation is always around 14 days. (Ok then, Mr Expert, then why on Earth am I getting 16 day luteal phases? What hormonal shift/imbalance does THAT signify?)


I've peeked at "the natural superwoman." The title kind of bugs me, because being a "superwoman" seems anthetical to "setting boundaries and being balanced" which is what the book is about, but overall it seems like great information and will probably help me with DD2's insomnia as well.


Ruthie, that is why I recommended The Natural Superwoman.  While I did not have the PMS during pregnancy and the different cycles you had, Dr. Lee's book is a somewhat "one size fits all"  approach.  I am not estrogen dominant, so the book was not relevant at all to me.  There are some good things, however, regarding limiting estrogen from outside sources, etc.

The Natural Superwoman is the book that really helped me pinpoint my problem of estrogen deficiency.  The quiz for that has 26 questions and he states that if you answer yes to two or more of the questions, you may be estrogen deficient.  I answered yes to 21 of the 26.  My blood tests confirmed that I was estrogen deficient.

You may find that you are not estrogen dominant, which is the main focus of Dr. Lee's book.  One thing I do remember about his book is that he describes a scenario where women still get a period but they are not really ovulating.  Maybe that is why your cycles seem so irregular?

Personally, when I read these books, I try and find what is relevant and interesting and new to me and I punt the rest!  


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I was still trying to make sense of what Dr Lee was saying about the causes of PMS though. It made sense while I was reading it, but then when I thought about it later, it ceased to make sense. It was DD2 who pointed out "if they're wrong about the days a woman can ovulate, what else is he wrong about?" It's a minor detail, but it does make me question his knowledge of the subject.

I should probably get off the computer and pick up that copy of The Natural Superwoman.

Scratch that. DD1 just called and she'll be home in a few minutes, and will need help with all her stuff. No time to read now.


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I was still trying to make sense of what Dr Lee was saying about the causes of PMS though. It made sense while I was reading it, but then when I thought about it later, it ceased to make sense. It was DD2 who pointed out "if they're wrong about the days a woman can ovulate, what else is he wrong about?" It's a minor detail, but it does make me question his knowledge of the subject.

I should probably get off the computer and pick up that copy of The Natural Superwoman.

Scratch that. DD1 just called and she'll be home in a few minutes, and will need help with all her stuff. No time to read now.


When things make sense while reading them and then they don't make so much sense after, I always go back to re-read.  Do you think he could have been generalizing on the ovulation cycle?  Or do you think you could have been wrong about your ovulation cycle?

He is no longer alive, but he was considered an expert in his field during his time.  Also, I checked the book I have and it is the one on menopause, not premenopause.

Take the quizzes in The Natural Superwoman.  I will help you evaluate your personal situation.  


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He said that the ovulation day can vary, anwhere from day 3 to day 14. That may be true for some women but I've never ovulated before day 12 and I've often ovulated well after day 14. To give a range of 3-14 seems very strange to me; day 3- day 21 would be more realistic. With a 14 day luteal phase, ovulating on day 3 means a 17 day cycle. I know some women have cycles that short, but I've never been one of them.

I've been charting my own cycles for more than 15 years. I was using it as birth control for a while- so I couldn't afford to  be careless! There are months when I don't watch as carefully, and months when my signs aren't as clear, but I know my body and how to look.

The main thing that confuses me about Dr Lee's books is the idea that estrogen leads to PMS. Estrogen is there the entire menstrual cycle, so why does it only cause PMS towards the end of the cycle? What is it about estrogen that causes those symptoms late in the cycle that doesn't cause them early in the cycle?

It's still kind of weird that I'm getting closer to menstruation and one boob is actually less sore than it was, but then I did just start the GLA  a few days ago. I realize that Lefty might not feel good until after I get my period, but maybe next month it won't hurt as much or as long.


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Sorry to hear about "Lefty"!!!  Ouch!  It is really great that you have been charting for 15 years and know your body so well!

Ruthie, it looks like estrogen plummets at the end of the cycle and progesterone surges after ovulation.  The chart clearly indicates that estrogen is not consistent throughout a woman's cycle.  Could that be what he is referring to?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menstrual_cycle

Something really weird is going on with me, too.  My boobs got sore around the full moon, on July 15th.  I remember this because we were away for the weekend.  I assumed I would have my period in three to five days.  Both lefty and righty are still sore and still no period.  Of course, I am in peri-menopause, so nothing is regular with me anymore.  But still, doesn't that seem weird?

I had a period on December 7, 2011, then no period until May 24, then again in June, so I anticipated a period in July, what with the sore boobs and all  


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There seems to be little talk on this thread about charting and relating the tests taken to the time in the cycle.  You can read your hormonal cycle in terms of vaginal mucus quality observations and menses.

It is as important for a woman to know the details of her cycle as a dieter to know their ABO and secretor status.  All the tests in the world will not help if the person analysing the results does not know which day in the cycle a test was taken.  Managing the balance of your hormones is best done with current and historical knowledge of your cycle.  It is also best done with an educated and experienced professional who will make sure your observation and analysis is accurate and informed.  That woman should also be guiding you in how to deal with what is happening.

Bio-identical is not just non-steroidal, but also naturally balanced.  The three estrogens in the human body come in a particular balance.  One enhances the likelihood of cancer and the other two diminish the likelihood.  So part of “bio-identical” should be keeping the estogens in that natural balance.

The hormone system is complex.  Many hormones have been converted from other, precursor hormones and are again converted into another kind.  It is multi-streamed, parallel, interrelated recycling.


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Ruthie, fast reader  !  I think I first read in Everywoman years and years ago, cycles can range up to 35 days long and still be normal, so I wouldn't worry about the days that he Dr Lee said everyone should ovulate.  IMHO you're lucky to have long cycles (could be to do with FSH and LH which are other hormones in the picture), it means less periods in your lifetime and less oestrogen stimulating uterine and breast growth and the bad things that too much oestrogen can cause.

I know what you mean about the title of The Natural Superwoman, I blanched when it said that every superwoman should make time for themselves to go out for dinner one night a week.  That's difficult for us dieters and introverts with aspergers kids!  Rather spend time on here or many other things - it should just say make time to do something fun.  I don't fit his definition of a superwoman!  Still the info seems really good, it explains that oestrogen make us sociable and the decline after ovulation in the cycle might cause PMS.  It makes sense that the body will be sad if it's not pregnant to me, however it works.

Another theory I've seen is that progesterone causes PMS especially in pyroluria / porphyria by being diffucult for the liver to eliminate affecting the P450 enzymes that are low.  I suspect this myself and am hoping I won't have to use progesterone cream - am using phytoestrogens now and hoping my thyroid can keep up!?

Great to see a man who knows about us!  I wrote on all my tests which day of my menstrual cycle they are taken on and Gynae was impressed that I knew the date of my last cycle.  


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Great to see a man who knows about us!  I wrote on all my tests which day of my menstrual cycle they are taken on and Gynae was impressed that I knew the date of my last cycle.  


Yay, Paul!     

Symbi, I was at my MD this past Monday, with a list in hand of all the tests I wanted him to do, date of last period, etc.  I wish I had known to do all of this last year when I was in his office with what I believed were perimenopausal symptoms.  I think I am beginning to get a handle on what is up with my hormones, but it took doing the research and tracking on my own.  According to the blood tests I'm still producing "normal" levels of estrogen and testosterone, but my progesterone measured low, and at a time when it should have been high if I were ovulating.  I made sure to schedule the appointment to coincide with this time of my cycle.  I like my MD, but I am beginning to understand that patients have to be very proactive in "partnering" with their health care providers.

I have just started on transdermal bio-identical progesterone cream with my MD's blessing, and I feel better on it.  Calmer.  I sleep better (like a rock).  I could feel the difference within one day.  I'm hoping that supplementing progesterone in this manner will create the right balance to ease the estrogen dominant symptoms I was having, PMS symptoms for like three weeks before my period finally arrived.  We'll see how I do on this cream in time, it is early days yet.  I'll definitely be watching the calendar and listening to my body.  Not that I can help that, it yells!  
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Great news O in Virginia.  Yay to listening to your body and the doctor listening to you!  Hope it works for you.  Which cream did you end up getting?


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