This morning, I noticed that the Mag oil is not stinging anymore.  Whew!  It wasn't really painful, but still, it's nice to not have that little zing.  

Just wanted to thank Christa for bringing this type of magnesium to my attention.  

it feels so right once you apply it!
I love my shower ritual!!!

I know a source of magnesium "oil" and the magnesium flakes  at   http://www.life-enthusiast.com
scroll down left side to  Trans derma minerals.  
I use the magnesium "oil" in bath water twice a week, probably could use more so idea of spray bottle sounds good to me.  Thanks

The pharmacy didn't have it.

Is it available at the pharmacy? lol

yes, in the form of magnesium chloride

Would epsom salt baths achieve the same results? Seems like Dr. D already has that part covered.

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Good information here. Thanks for the effort Christa.

I've been taking Natural Calm (ionic magnesium citrate) lately. It's a good magnesium product, but does loosen the stools. I don't think this is ideal for the body.

I used to take natural calm for quite awhile. The more studying I did on magnesium the more I understood why transdermal would be the most optimal way to increase my magnesium percentage. Glad to be of help!

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Dr. Shealy adds that the problem with oral magnesium is that all magnesium compounds are potentially laxative. And there is good evidence that magnesium absorption depends upon the mineral remaining in the intestine at least 12 hours. If intestinal transit time is less than 12 hours, magnesium absorption is impaired.

also

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Jack Samuels, President of the Truth in Labeling Campaign, gives us more reason to avoid oral magnesium products. “Most, but not all of the magnesium being sold "over the counter" is chelated with neurotoxic substances. Magnesium glutamate is clearly of concern because the magnesium is chelated to neurotoxic glutamic acid. Magnesium aspartate is clearly of concern because the magnesium is chelated to neurotoxic aspartic acid, an amino acid that has been found by neuroscientists, in animal studies, to load on the same receptors in the brain as does glutamic acid, to cause identical brain lesions and neuroendocrine disorders as glutamic acid, and to act in an additive fashion with glutamic acid. Magnesium citrate is of concern because the magnesium has been chelated with citric acid. Most of the citric acid used in this country is made from corn.

For the majority of us on the btd corn is a definite no no.

quotes were from this website

http://www.worldwidehealthcenter.net/articles-358.html

I had another client call me earlier today and tell me that she actually slept a full nights sleep for the first time in over 10 years. This was her first night after using the transdermal mag I had told her about. I love getting phone calls like this!

The amount of absorbable magnesium in epsom salts is very low compared to magnesium oil. It would take 10 years longer to get the mag you need from epsom salt baths than by spraying on mag oil.

I buy my mag oil from

http://www.health-and-wisdom.com/magnesium.htm

Some health food stores carry it too. But this is the best source I've found so far and sell this brand to my clients (I'm a Massage Therapist) and customers that come into the store my mom and I own together called "Oils and Things".

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I had another client call me earlier today and tell me that she actually slept a full nights sleep for the first time in over 10 years. This was her first night after using the transdermal mag I had told her about. I love getting phone calls like this!

Don't you love it when you can help ppl out...

You're welcome Victoria!

As a side note: I've noticed that B's seem to be even more magnesium deficient that those of other blood types. And the majority of magnesium rich foods are avoids for B's. So definitely using mag oil would be ideal as a daily habit for B's. In my personal opinion, anyways.

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Don't you love it when you can help ppl out...

What I really love is when I share something that I've learned with someone and than they go and actually apply it. That is awesome! I love it when people help themselves once I share the info with them. Like that adage... "You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make him drink." I can share till I'm blue in the face and till my finger cannot type anymore but unless someone takes that info and uses it. It's useless.
All the knowledge in the world is useless unless we apply it. That's when I believe it become wisdom!

OK, so there's a good reason that the mag oil is way more expensive than epsom salts.

Do you think I should order 2 spray bottles, rather than just one, so I can have a diluted one for the kids and a stronger one for myself? I don't think my 9yo would appreciate spraying on something that stings his skin!

Christa, this information is pure gold.

Thank you so much.

Two different websites have been suggested for the mag oil.

http://www.magnesiumdirect.com/zechsteinseabed.aspx

http://www.health-and-wisdom.com/magnesium.htm#mo

How do the products from the two sources compare?

I'm willing to listen to Christa, but I found another decent site.

http://www.life-enthusiast.com/index/Brands/TransDerma/Product:_Magnesium_Drops

These are "drops."

In terms of who's mag oil is better... I muscles test. That's just how I do it. I have gone though a lot of different websites and I have tested the strength of the mag oil over and over again against other websites. To each their own though.

Ruthie - It's not going to go bad so ordering 2 bottles at once is going to save you on the shipping in the long run. So keeping one absolute and diluting one so you have three bottles... 2 50/50 and one absolute is a great option.

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There are two oral forms that may be considered: 25%magnesium chloride drops (Magic Drops) or magnesium taurate. The drops are extremely strong tasting, salty and bitter. At least 50% of patients refuse to use the drops after a taste test. Twenty drops per day are recommended. It requires 3 to 6 months for replacement to be accomplished.

That was from the same website again.

If you can handle taking the drops go for it. The proof as they say is in the pudding. I used to really enjoy pudding. lol The highest sales in our store are from the magnesium oil and that's because it is working. If you can handle the taste go for it and definitely let us know! I would be fascinated to hear if it works.

Also... I do use the mag oil to brush my teeth with (yes very salty) and along with everything else I'm doing my teeth are getting whiter and less translucent and it seems as though I'm getting enamel back. Which is something that is totally unheard of in dentistry.  

Wow, amazing Christa.

What else do you use for your teeth besides magnesium oil?

I follow my Swami.

No white sugar or flour and I keep my blood sugar levels balances.

I take high dose co enzyme q 10. That's a whole different topic that could have it's own thread. Finding a good high dose co q10 that doesn't cost an arm and a leg is fairly difficult. If anyone has bleeding gums or painful teeth problems it is because they are extremely low in Co Q10.

I use the mag oil daily on my skin and on my toothbrush.

I take vitamin K2 (also should have it's own thread) - 45 MG daily. This is something that the Japanese have found to reduce osteoporosis. The only supplement that I have found that you can buy in the States that has this high dose of the proper K2  (which is the Mk-4) is from this company. Vitamin K2 pushes calcium into your bones. Other companies like to tell you that you need Mk-7. This is up for debate but all the studies that the Japanese have done are on Mk-4. Check out this website. I buy from them. Here in Canada we aren't allowed more than half of a mg in a supplement per day. So I have to sneak this in. This has really shifted my overall bone health, in my personal opinion. It took me over 4 months of serious research and find this.

http://www.nbihealth.com/p-10-osteo-k.aspx

Christa- to muscle test I would need to order both and then compare them- I can't muscle test through a website! I trust your judgement if you've tested  products from both companies though- unless you're saying that the product from one website or the other is a better "fit" for some individuals, rather than one product is overall better for everybody.

I just need to be very, very careful with my money right now. My ex hasn't paid any child support since the school year began- so if he actually pays me this month, I'll be able to order all the supplements I need and not worry about it. But since I haven't actually gotten any money from him yet, I'm hesitant to spend all my money the first day of the month (I get SSI the first of each month.) I've been taking magnesium orally for years, but my current bottle is  very low and I haven't bought any more, figuring I'd buy the mag oil online. I do have epsom salts and an empty spray bottle ($1 at Target) in the house.

In your professional opinion, do you think that dissolving epsom salts in water and spraying that on would be a complete waste of time and effort? How would that compare (in terms of absorbable mag) to taking  400 mg of mag citrate orally each day? Is that a reasonable thing to do for the next week or two, until I have more money? Or should I go out on a (financial) limb and get the mag oil sooner?

Ruthie anything you do that is a step forward is always better than doing something that is like taking one forward and two back... such as taking the mag citrate would be. So definitely you are much better off spraying the epsom salts on than ingesting magnesium citrate.

You can totally wait. No need to go spend money on something you cannot afford. Having financial "good health" is part of having over good health. If you are stressed about money that is a whole other topic... but putting yourself in financial stress for any supplement is never a good idea. At the very basics we just should be following our btd's. Everything else after that is icing on the cake. Bad metaphor but you understand my meaning. lol

Everything else is ghee on the rice cake?

So you think I can get as much mag from epsom salts spray so I can cut out the mag citrate and not feel any effects of cutting down on mag intake?

My routine has been to use my cal/mag/zinc supplement in the morning and then take extra mag before bed. The cal/mag/zinc supplement contains calcium carbonate, magnesium oxide, and zinc oxide. Do you think I should get a different calcium supplement when I finish this bottle. or is this OK to continue taking?

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In terms of who's mag oil is better... I muscles test. That's just how I do it. I have gone though a lot of different websites and I have tested the strength of the mag oil over and over again against other websites. To each their own though.

Let me preface by saying I don't really have a clear understanding of the practical uses of muscle testing, though I know many of you here do it regularly. Please, can you explain how you muscle test a product on a website? I don't grok it.

Clear Cal is going to be better absorbed than Cal. Carbonate, in my opinion.