Here's a Canadian website that will give you more info on the raw milk vs pasteurization debate.

http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/chris/2005/04/18/health_canada_vs_unpasteurized_milk.htm

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Raw foodists eat a diet of primarily unheated food, or food cooked to a temperature less than 40 °C (104 °F) to 46 °C (115 °F). Their reasoning behind this is that nutrition starts to deplete at a temperature higher than this.

As I recall, this is to keep as many of the enzymes and heat sensitive vitamins intact as possible...

Quoted from 10384

I just looked up Cabot Farms, the brand of organic butter I've been buying at our Co-op, and their website says:

All of Cabot's products are made from pasteurized milk. Pasteurization destroys undesirable pathogenic microorganisms, such as E. coli or Listeria.

So, is what they say true regarding pasteurization?

Pasturization will kill any pathogenic bacteria that are present in the milk or cream before it's pasturized. Clean milk from healthy cows won't have pathogenic bacteria to begin with. Germy milk, from sick cows, is unhealthy for a variety of reasons, but pasturization will at least kill off the germs that can make the consumer very ill. It won't ever make the milk as good as that from healthy cows.

Bacteria can grow in milk after pasturization, if the pasturized milk gets more germs in there somehow. Pasturization is no guarantee of germ-free milk. Pasturized milk doesn't have the full array of "good germs" to keep the "bad germs" in check, so it may be even more likely to be high in pathogens by the time it gets to the consumer. But really, if milk is kept clean and refrigerated it will be safe to drink.

Stupid "food safety" laws often require pasturization, even when it makes no scientific sense to do so. Raw milk is subject to complex laws that vary from state to state, and tends to be much more expensive. If it was readily available at my local stores, and within my budget, I'd buy raw milk for my son. I know it's healthier than the pasturized stuff, but my food budget only goes so far.

One interesting thing I have found is that when pasteurized milk sits in the fridge too long, it will go BAD, really foul!  When raw milk sits too long, it will culture itself and become something like curds and whey that can be strained off, leaving a type of paneer that can be strained, pressed and eaten.

This is an example of how, when all the bacteria are killed, this includes the good ones.

Unpasteurized butter is a great idea.  But that Butter Oil is way out of my financial league!  Does anyone know of a brand of unpasteurized butter that is more affordable?

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Unpasteurized butter is a great idea.  But that Butter Oil is way out of my financial league!  Does anyone know of a brand of unpasteurized butter that is more affordable?

This place sounds awesome:

http://www.organicpastures.com/

Their butter:

http://www.organicpastures.com/products_butter.html

Looks like you have to call them to order it.  I emailed my co-op to see if they carry unpasteurized butter.

The FDA likes to come in with guns and confiscate raw milk and dairy. So anyone online that is selling unpasteurized can get shut down quick. There are some raw foodists that are all about the dairy. A guy named Adjonis Vonderplantiz... I think I spelt that correct... is totally all about raw dairy and even raw meat. I followed his diet for about 6 months and got fat, being the A blood type that I am. lol Of course following the BTD and using the ideas of raw here and there has been amazing for me.

The best way to get raw dairy to to buddy up with a group of people where you live and hunt down an organic farmer. No with guns mind you... but handfuls of cash! A farmer would love to help sell raw if you can all keep it on the downlow. That is how I was getting my raw dairy when I was on the raw diet.

If you can find one online that would be awesome. With health it's about prevention anyways. So for me it's going to be that ghee from the aforementioned site I posted.

Adam, try Carlson's lemon cod liver oil.  It tastes really good.

"Their butter:

http://www.organicpastures.com/products_butter.html"
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I couldn't find a price on their raw butter.  Do you have it, Adam?

Quoted from 10384

This place sounds awesome:

http://www.organicpastures.com/

Their butter:

http://www.organicpastures.com/products_butter.html

Looks like you have to call them to order it.  I emailed my co-op to see if they carry unpasteurized butter.

I just checked and they only ship within the states. I'm Canadian so no such luck with unpasteurized products crossing the boarder. Bummer! Although I can still get the ghee I found from that other site. They call it butter oil.

Quoted from Victoria

"Their butter:

http://www.organicpastures.com/products_butter.html"
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I couldn't find a price on their raw butter.  Do you have it, Adam?

Just sent them an email.

lol So I asked my friends on facebook if anyone knew anyone that I could get raw milk from and I've found someone locally, YAY. I also told everyone that if they were anti-raw milk I didn't want to hear it. lol Someone responded negatively so I deleted her as a friend. Some people just don't listen and are terribly annoying. lol

he uses unpasteurized for patients, specifically combating psoriasis.....
I believe the butyric acid content to be superior, for healing

Quoted from Victoria

"Their butter:

http://www.organicpastures.com/products_butter.html"
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I couldn't find a price on their raw butter.  Do you have it, Adam?

Victoria,

This was their response to me:

Hello Adam,

We apologies for the inconvenience but we actually do not ship our butter or our other dairy product out of the state of California do to FDA regulations as of January of 2009 the FDA no longer permits us to ship out. Very sorry!

Thanks,

Carolina Manrique
Organic Pastures Dairy Co.
7221 South Jameson
Fresno, CA 93706
559.846.9732
Toll Free: 1.877.RAW.MILK
FAX: 559.842.8061
carolina.m@organicpastures.com

Back when I took fish oil capsules, I kept them in the freezer. They didn't repeat on me.

Quoted from 10384

Victoria,

This was their response to me:

Hello Adam,

We apologies for the inconvenience but we actually do not ship our butter or our other dairy product out of the state of California do to FDA regulations as of January of 2009 the FDA no longer permits us to ship out. Very sorry!

Thanks,

Carolina Manrique
Organic Pastures Dairy Co.
7221 South Jameson
Fresno, CA 93706
559.846.9732
Toll Free: 1.877.RAW.MILK
FAX: 559.842.8061
carolina.m@organicpastures.com

I expected as much. Bummer. I knew they for sure for sure wouldn't ship across the boarder to me either hence why I didn't even bother asking.


Drea - Thanks! I will start freezing my next bottle. I have to buy a new one soon.

Thanks for checking, Adam.

Good idea, Drea!

I just bought Carlson's and think it tastes pretty good, like lemon.  

because a lot of those fish oils are contaminated... you'd better go for linseed oil...organic linseed oil does even contain more omega 3 oil then any other oils....
<i begun some 2 weeks ago with the intake of min. 4 spoons every day and wow... this is a true gift for our bodies...

I take 1t daily, first thing in the AM, of Carlson's unflavored cod liver oil. I've been doing this since 2007. It doesn't repeat on me at all.  I don't need flavor added to my supplements...I just take mine au naturale.   Recently I purchased Dr. D's fish oil caps but I have not tried taking it yet.  

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I just had my first Tbsp of Nordic Naturals Lemon Flavored Cod Liver Oil and I about gagged!!  They lied to me!  It was supposed to taste all lemony!    I even shook the bottle before taking it.  It was an unopened bottle sitting on my desk, so it was at room temperature.  Is it better chilled?  It's in the fridge now.  I will try adding actual lemon juice to the Tbsp next time to see if I can mask the fish taste.  Oh, no, now I'm burping it up!  Ack!  This is a superfood on my SWAMI, and I really want to take this stuff as it is supposed to be really good for me, and I was told the bottled stuff is the most pure there is, much better than the capsules.  I know I should just 'man up' and take it, but, wow, that was some strong tasting stuff.

Maybe you're a super-taster. If so just do what I did when I was a kid and was faced with the daily teaspoonful (as per the doctor that birthed me) - pinch your nose shut with your fingers and swallow fast.....

I'm hoping the clo will help with some of the Hunter rapid aging gene stuff- every little bit helps.