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Curious
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I saw my skin specialist the other day for a skin check up (everything is fine). I asked him about sun protection versus sunshine for Vitamin D. He said that it would take 2 minutes between 10.00 am and 2.00 pm in the sun and the body would manufacture enough vitamin (you need to have your arms 'naked').
If it only takes such a short time, why do we all have Vitamin D deficiencies?
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It's because they are biased against breastfeeding.   3/4 of my babies had it and all they needed was some sunlight.



I totally agree. It has nothing to do with breastfeeding at all.


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Quoted from Curious
I saw my skin specialist the other day for a skin check up (everything is fine). I asked him about sun protection versus sunshine for Vitamin D. He said that it would take 2 minutes between 10.00 am and 2.00 pm in the sun and the body would manufacture enough vitamin (you need to have your arms 'naked').
If it only takes such a short time, why do we all have Vitamin D deficiencies?


I think MayFlower has given you the answer a couple of posts back ... at least part of the answer anyway ... obesity and vit D deficiency are common, considering the quoted article explains that fat robs the body of it ... so,the more obese we are, the more vit D we need to feed the fat ... gosh, it sounds gross!! but, it seems to be true ...  




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I think MayFlower has given you the answer a couple of posts back ... at least part of the answer anyway ... obesity and vit D deficiency are common, considering the quoted article explains that fat robs the body of it ... so,the more obese we are, the more vit D we need to feed the fat ... gosh, it sounds gross!! but, it seems to be true ...  

I am not obese. I am skinny - so it can't be the fat that robs my vitamin D.
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I saw my skin specialist the other day for a skin check up (everything is fine). I asked him about sun protection versus sunshine for Vitamin D. He said that it would take 2 minutes between 10.00 am and 2.00 pm in the sun and the body would manufacture enough vitamin (you need to have your arms 'naked').
If it only takes such a short time, why do we all have Vitamin D deficiencies?


Your doctor is mistaken. It takes longer than "2 minutes"!   It takes 20 mins to 30 mins and all of your arms and legs have to be showing.. tank top and short shorts..and did you know that African Americans have a harder time making D? The darker your skin, the less vitamin D you'll make. People as they age, have a harder time producing D, their bodies can't manufacture it as well as when you're younger.  

You being from Australia which gets very intense sunshine.. Must be nice.. Have you had your levels checked anyway?
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Your doctor is mistaken. It takes longer than "2 minutes"!   It takes 20 mins to 30 mins and all of your arms and legs have to be showing.. tank top and short shorts..and did you know that African Americans have a harder time making D? The darker your skin, the less vitamin D you'll make. People as they age, have a harder time producing D, their bodies can't manufacture it as well as when you're younger.  

You being from Australia gets very intense sunshine.. Must be nice.. Have you had your levels checked anyway?


In Denmark it is only in the months June and July that we get enough from sun AND that is just the low doe- not the higher new doses.




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I am not obese. I am skinny - so it can't be the fat that robs my vitamin D.


Sorry Curious I was not implying you were obese, that is why I said, 'part of the answer', I was just answering you general question about the general trend of vit D deficiency in the population and connecting that to the fact that there is also another trend of general population: being  obese.  Then the link between the two ... but of course, individuality is the rule and there are many other hidden reasons for not absorbing vit D or requiring more than normal for some people ...  





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Has anyone looked into Dr. D's D3 w/K?
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I would take it except.. He has vitamin K in his D formulation.  I really don't need to have my blood clot any more than it does.  I think he should create a formula for Warriors as well. We have thick blood. I've already had DVT once.   But if I wasn't deficient, I'd take 2,000 iu's a day.

Yes, Desiree, Lola already mentioned it on the previous page..
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The cod liver oil I take contains D3, something like 2000 IU's per tsp, and I'm taking probably twice that.  It's Nordic Naturals, lemon flavor with added D.  CLO is a SF on my SWAMI.  Just perusing the GTD book, I see that CLO is a SF for Hunters, Warriors, and Nomads.  Get the kind with added D3 and it's a win-win!  
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Cod liver oil ?     I have a problem with lemon. I'm allergic to citrus.  I'm taking Now brand. I tried another brand and I had an allergic reaction to it...
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You being from Australia which gets very intense sunshine.. Must be nice.. Have you had your levels checked anyway?

Yes, I had my levels checked in January. They were 56 nmol/L (60-160 is the normal range). I will have another check this coming week on Wednesday. I hope my levels are higher now.
Yes, Australia is nice, particularly where I am (Gold Coast), it is subtropical with mild winters and warm/humid summers. Lots of sun.

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... but of course, individuality is the rule and there are many other hidden reasons for not absorbing vit D or requiring more than normal for some people ...  

Maybe I am not absorbing the vit D. If this is the case I wonder what I could to do increase absorption.

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Yes, I had my levels checked in January. They were 56 nmol/L (60-160 is the normal range).


Really?! That's very interesting how Australia levels are up to 160 and of course the USA is a very conservative 100 or 150 depending on the doctor you go see here !   Pesonally I don't think the scientitsts really know do they?  Makes you wonder.    My levels barely broke 31 and the young padawan I went to see is telling me my D level is normal.  Normal?
I only go to the primary doctor for the low cost testing.. they get annoyed when I don't follow their advice. lol..
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That's very interesting how Australia levels are up to 160 and of course the USA is a very conservative 100 or 150 depending on the doctor you go see here !   Pesonally I don't think the scientitsts really know do they?  ...  My levels barely broke 31 and the young padawan I went to see is telling me my D level is normal.  Normal?

That is interesting, I always thought the guideline levels are the same internationally. 31 is low, my 56 does not sound too bad compared with 31   .

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I'm sorry if this has already been discussed - read as much as I could.

Vit K - has something to do w thickening blood - right?
BT  A  has thick blood -  wouldn't Vit K be a bad idea for us?
I didn't see Vit D for dif blood types.

Has Dr D discussed this somewhere? I really would like to understand and make good choices.
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I do not see Vit D in my lab reports, unless it is disguised under another name, my doc did not checked me for it ... I supposed it is not a required test in Australia due to the amount of sunshine we are usually exposed to, particularly in the Sunshine Coast where I live ... Unless one shows signs of deficiency, or particularly ask for it, it will not be done ...  




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Thought this was interesting
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Assessing Vitamin D Status

Blood Testing:
Currently there are two tests available for physicians to assess vitamin-D status.
One is for the somewhat biologically active precursor 25(OH)D and another for 1,25(OH)D, the most active form, which is converted in the kidney and other organs.
The latter is often normal in the blood even when the precursor 25(OH)D is low or deficient.
The precursor is a better marker of vitamin-D status (or reserves) than the most active 1,25(OH)D form. It is the optimum level of 25(OH)D that is most strongly associated with general good health. (The test values given in this article are for 25(OH)D.) For many years the acceptable level of 25(OH)D has been at least 9 ng/ml (23 nmol/l). Some researchers believe that 20 ng/ml (50 nmol/l) should be the lower acceptable limit72 but Dr. Vieth presents a large amount of data to support his claim that this is far from optimal.3 Optimal levels are certainly at least 32 ng/ml (80 nmol/l) and preferably closer to 40 ng/ml (100 nmol/l).

http://westonaprice.org/abcs-of-nutrition/168-miracle-of-vitamin-d.html


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Fatty fish, egg yolks green leafy veggies....these are best sources of K.....


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Quoted from Curious

That is interesting, I always thought the guideline levels are the same internationally. 31 is low, my 56 does not sound too bad compared with 31   .


So did I !   I just looked at my test results and the "normal high range" is 100 .
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Quoted from Lola
Fatty fish, egg yolks green leafy veggies....these are best sources of K.....


For me yes..! That's how I should get my K

I think the vegetable with the highest level of K in it is broccoli
I wasn't allowed to eat large amounts of broccoli when I was on coumadin for DVT. On my SWAMI it's a neutral.
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I specifically asked for a Vitamin D test at my last checkup. I got a call yesterday that my vitamin D levels were low, and I should start taking 2,000 iu per day, then get it re-checked in 3 months.

I told her that I'm already taking 4-5,000 iu daily, and she said she'd talk to the dr and get back to me. I also asked for a copy of all my lab results, as right now I don't know which kind of Vitamin D test was run or what my actual numbers were.

So if 5,000 iu of D3 per day means I still have low levels of Vitamin D, does this mean I should take higher amounts of D or should I be doing something else to help it get absorbed better?


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How long have you taken 5000 iu each day?


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