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I think if you get tested for Lyme's while on the antibiotics, it
will show negative. Most regular MD's are not on the ball yet, but
the tests seem to be getting better. My mom has it....she still doesn't
get that most of her vague problems are from the Lyme because her doc
only gave her 7 days worth of antibiotic and let her stop it in the middle due
to an upset stomach! I'm still a little upset about that. She clearly had
the target. I think her protocol could have been a little more aggressive.


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Does anyone know anything about vitamin D3 toxicity?  I've read that one could take 50,000 during an acute illness (and use it up)--and then there is the kidney stones question.  I thought D3 helped you use calcium so it did not go places it shouldn't (like stones).  I've also read one can make 10,000 easily, running around in the sun with skin showing and without sunscreen.  In the winter, I'm sure lack of light = lack of vitamin D = poorer mood than in the summer.  I notice as the days get shorter.  I've been adding D3--but how much is really too much?  Will a typical primary care person know about this, and about testing blood levels?  Thanks for any thoughts on this.
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I have this week's for women First magazine and there's a very good article on Vitamin D and on the front cover it says Vitamin D Releases Belly fat. Well I knew my doctor was a padawan. Dr. Holick in this article states that it's safe to take up to 10,000 ius a day of D especially if one is overweight. They discovered that "fat" robs the vitamin D out of the blood stream and stores it in the fat.  So the more overweight you are, the more D you need. Fascinating article. I haven't noticed any difference since I've been taking the D (that's how low my levels were/are)  In mood or weight. I also read that you have to have high levels for the difference to be noticed. I just upped my daily D to 10,000 ius. I'll have the levels checked in December.
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Here is some information on Vitamin D toxicity from a well-respected nutrition book in Australia:

Vitamin D is an essential nutrient necessary for the absorption of calcium from the small intestine. Vitamin D deficiency causes rickets and osteomalacia. While most Australians do not require vitamin D in their diets, in countries where exposure of the skin to sunlight is limited (especially in winter months), dietary vitamin D is essential for the prevention of rickets. In pure form, however, vitamin D is highly toxic, comparable to the same amount of the organophosphate pesticide, parathion. It can be chronically toxic, leading to deposition of calcium in soft tissues and irreversible renal and cardiovascular damage if supplements containing in excess of 45 microgram/day are taken".
From: Mark L. Wahlqvist, Food & Nutrition, 2nd edition, Allen & Unwin, p.91.
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My endo told me to take 10,000 IUs while I was sick for the past few weeks and then 5000 IUs at least for the winter.  I was still on the low side taking 2000 IUs and getting some sun over the summer.
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forget the guess work!

Dr D has done it for us, yet again!
http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NP066


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Here is some information on Vitamin D toxicity from a well-respected nutrition book in Australia:

Vitamin D is an essential nutrient necessary for the absorption of calcium from the small intestine. Vitamin D deficiency causes rickets and osteomalacia. While most Australians do not require vitamin D in their diets, in countries where exposure of the skin to sunlight is limited (especially in winter months), dietary vitamin D is essential for the prevention of rickets. In pure form, however, vitamin D is highly toxic, ncomparable to the same amount of the organophosphate pesticide, parathion. It can be chronically toxic, leading to deposition of calcium in soft tissues and irreversible renal and cardiovascular damage if supplements containing in excess of 45 microgram/day are taken".
From: Mark L. Wahlqvist, Food & Nutrition, 2nd edition, Allen & Unwin, p.91.


Well I don´t think the Scandinavian scientist would agree with it.
All the new stuff they have researched says that Vitamin D is really a hormone and it is safe to go to 100 mcg /4000 iu pr day in acute sickness. They say Scandinavians should airm for 25- 35 mcg 1000-1400 iu pr day in the period of September- may
Teenager  as high as 50 mcg 2000 iu pr day. Kids 20 mg 800 iu pr day.
And always use D 3 - never D2 since that can be toxic.


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Sorry guys, as usual lately, just rushing through so I did not read all the posts here, but have you seen Dr D's formulation for D3?

http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NP066

Cheers




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Quoted from Curious
Here is some information on Vitamin D toxicity from a well-respected nutrition book in Australia:
Vitamin D is an essential nutrient necessary for the absorption of calcium from the small intestine. cardiovascular damage if supplements containing in excess of 45 microgram/day are taken".
From: Mark L. Wahlqvist, Food & Nutrition, 2nd edition, Allen & Unwin, p.91.


That book is in my opinion sadly outdated. Now top doctors.. are saying  that minimum is 1,000 ius a day for kids! 45 micrograms  is less than 800 ius!  400 is only 25 micrograms.  That must have been the book my padawan primary doctor read.  Dr. Holick said 10,000 ius is made by the body in one sun session. Come on these doctors are whacked.
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Sorry guys, as usual lately, just rushing through so I did not read all the posts here, but have you seen Dr D's formulation for D3?

http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NP066

Cheers


Yes we did and it has Vitamin K in it that I can't take.
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Ya don't say!


Andrea who are you quoting?  I hate when I'm scrolling through the messages looking for the original post..so I can understand...
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Ah!  Then you're seeing a LLMD--Lyme-literate MD.  That will be my last resort, because from what I understand they still just do antibiotics--they just understand that some people test falsely negative.


Ribbit,
Luckily this MD also uses holistic methods, and I am doing the holistic therapy.
I've been taking other supplements first to strengthen/prepare my body and will start the therapy in a few weeks.
Lin



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forget the guess work!

Dr D has done it for us, yet again!
http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NP066


That's great!  I had no idea this supplement existed.
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Andrea who are you quoting?  I hate when I'm scrolling through the messages looking for the original post..so I can understand...


She was quoting me.

....and I'm still proofreading.  


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An article from todays BBC Health section concerning rickets in the English city of Southampton.

Rickets/Southampton

The article mentions problems in Northern England with Rickets but Southampton is very near the south coast. Also sounds like a rather sudden surprise to researchers.





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Dr D has done it for us, yet again!
http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NP066
Just seen it in the Newsletter!       


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forget the guess work!

Dr D has done it for us, yet again!
http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NP066


Hey, Lola, does Dr. D have a write-up on Vitamin D and its benefits?  If you have a link, that would be awesome.  
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  D'Adamo Personalized Nutrition Special Health Alert: Vitamin D - What You Need to Know
Deficiency in this essential nutrient reaches epidemic proportions.
Dr. Peter D'Adamo formulated Phyto D 2000(TM) to help you protect your health.
  

Vitamin D is an invaluable nutrient that has wide ranging capabilities to protect the body from a variety of issues and diseases. Researchers are continually uncovering new links between a lack of vitamin D and disease, illustrating the fact that it is vital to good health. However, recent studies have also found that most people are deficient in Vitamin D. Recognizing the importance of this essential nutrient, Dr. Peter D'Adamo formulated Phyto D 2000(TM), a blood type friendly source of Vitamin D that he blended with synergistic herbs to enhance its effectiveness.

We typically obtain Vitamin D through sun exposure and through food sources such as egg yolk, milk, fish oil, and other vegetables, but most Americans don't consume enough of these foods, or spend enough time soaking up sunshine to produce adequate amounts of Vitamin D. It's for these reasons that additional supplementation is necessary.

Most of us know that Vitamin D is essential to building strong teeth and bones, however, it is more than just a vitamin; it is a hormone that regulates more than a tenth of human genes and it has wide-ranging effects throughout the body. There is no vitamin more important, yet scientists agree that average levels have never been lower - to the point where it's feared that Vitamin D deficiency is reaching epidemic proportions.

At the same time, with increasing toxic exposures and stresses from lifestyle and environment, our need for this essential nutrient has never been greater. Recognizing this need, Dr. Peter D'Adamo formulated Phyto D 2000(TM) for use in his clinical practice. Phyto D 2000(TM) contains 2000IU of the highest quality Vitamin D3 and is packed with other essential nutrients and synergistic herbs to maximize bone health, improve bone mineral density, and reduce the risk of bone fractures.

Research shows that Vitamin D deficiency may be associated with the following conditions:  
Osteoporosis

Some Cancers

Multiple Sclerosis

Psoriasis

Hyperparathyroidism

Diabetes

Insulin resistance

Hypertension

Heart disease

Respiratory infections

Muscle weakness

Mood and cognitive function

Infectious diseases such as influenza



Extensive research has shown exactly how this mega-nutrient works on the cellular level to provide a lowered risk from many conditions. The benefits of regular supplementation of Phyto D 2000(TM) are myriad; here are just a few:

Inhibited breakdown and improved formation of bone
Increased bone mineralization and density
Decreased risk of osteopenia, osteoporosis, and fracture risk
Improved mood and decreased risk of depression
Improved energy levels and decreased fatigue

Phyto D 2000(TM) (Item Number: NP066)
SRP $24.95
The above quote is the text of NAP's special health alert I received yesterday by email.




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Dr. D prescribes 2,000 ius for daily use... I had a severe deficiency and was on prescription D for many weeks.  From what I'm reading, Endos prescribe 5-10,000 for people like me who are deficient all the time. It could be a thing about absorption.. I always had iron absorption problems as well even eating red meat when I was younger, I'd be anemic.
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My endo originally had me on 2000IUs but at my last visit upped it to 5000 and 10,000 when I was sick.  In the Northeast, especially in the winter, it's virtually impossible to get any from the sun.  
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My endo originally had me on 2000IUs but at my last visit upped it to 5000 and 10,000 when I was sick.  In the Northeast, especially in the winter, it's virtually impossible to get any from the sun.  


Obviously if you're sick, 2,000 ius was not enough.      Even people in the southern states are deficient in D because they work inside all day long.  Everyone should get their D levels tested..unless they want to end up like me with osteoporosis?   My sister even has osteoporosis and she still doesn't know her D levels.. She just lets the doctor boss her around.    I, working with doctors for 30 + years, don't put up with that.  They are not gods to me.  
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Obviously if you're sick, 2,000 ius was not enough.      Even people in the southern states are deficient in D because they work inside all day long.  Everyone should get their D levels tested..unless they want to end up like me with osteoporosis?   My sister even has osteoporosis and she still doesn't know her D levels.. She just lets the doctor boss her around.    I, working with doctors for 30 + years, don't put up with that.  They are not gods to me.  


Every doctor I've ever gone to just shoves me in and out as quickly as possible to get to their next patient, i.e., to make more $$.  None really want to listen to what I have to say, anyway.  Thus, I despise doctors in general and have little use for them.  I respect Dr. D, because his research and my personal experience (when I finally do things correctly) confirm his genius to me.  Even the doc who did my colonoscopy forgot to band my tags, and told me to get yet another appt with him to have it done in his office.  That means more money for him (and less for me) because of another stupid office visit.  
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I am in th same situation I have been on 50,000 iu every other week for almost 2 years now. even with supplements it is the only way I maintain vitamin D, especially in the winter. Maybe summer after next I can sun worship some more. I take Dr. D's Methyl B and will get the Vitamin D and calcium. I have been told for a long time I need 2000 calcium and vit D too. It hink taking them with dark chocolate is good because it has the magnesium necessary to absorb it all.  


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