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Well....I used the day cream again today, and I don't seem to tolerate it as well as the night cream.  The day cream is what I initially reacted to.  I have had it on for about 4 hours now, trying to persevere, but I feel kind of weak and sinus-y with the day cream.  

It WOULD be nicer if they all came unscented....if Dr. D could come up with an unscented version so that more people could tolerate the skin care products.

If that doesn't happen, I could use only the night cream and eye cream.  If I only used the night cream day and night, what would that do to my skin?  Is there a particular reason NOT to use the night cream during the day?  Would it work against me in any way?


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Oh, that sounds good, narnia.  I was gonna just put it on my flaking hands, but my face could use a facelift as well.  
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I wonder if Dr. D has a hand cream?  THAT would be awesome!!


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There are no fragrances added, just the natural smells of the natural ingredients. They could add a "masking fragrance" to the product (lots of commercial "unscented" products do that) but that would only be adding more ingredients to the product,  and likely wouldn't be making it any better tolerated. I don't even know if those "masking fragrances" are even natural.

Narnia- my guess is that you're sensitive to one or more of the botanical ingredients in the day cream that's not present in the night cream- or possibly that's in higher concentrations in the day cream. You're noticing the fragrance as the trigger, but it's probably the botanical ingredient(s) itself that's problematic for you.

Maybe use the product only once a week, or dilute it with a better tolerated cream?


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I am still struggling with being able to tolerate the odor!  I still feel sinusy and kind of weak when wearing it


stop using it FCOL!!!
using any type of cream, should be a pleasure nothing else!!!

I d be so sad if they took away the marvelous subtle scent in all genoma creams....
again......individuality, personal health issues, susceptibility, all come into play...


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The eye cream has no odor, so it seems that the creams can be made with less of a strong odor.


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fcol
means for crying out loud
we should not use anything causing us weakness or anything....
simply accept the fact that that specific cream doesn t sit well with you.


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Well...it's enough to cause frustration, when I had been so upset about my face looking saggy and crinkly after losing so much weight!  

I've tried everything, and the Genoma cream is the first and only thing I've used where I've seen such HUGE and fast results!!

I was asking about an unscented version because I know that there are others who haven't been able to tolerate the fragrance.  I thought that this whole line of products was geared to suit our type...it says that it is blood-type friendly.  I would think that products by Dr. D would be more easily tolerated by us than the other brands.

However, the first ingredient listed after water is sunflower oil which is an avoid for Os.  So I was wondering about that as well.  


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There's no fragrance in any of the products. That's just the way the ingredients smell.


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Well...it's enough to cause frustration, when I had been so upset about my face looking saggy and crinkly after losing so much weight!  

I've tried everything, and the Genoma cream is the first and only thing I've used where I've seen such HUGE and fast results!!

I was asking about an unscented version because I know that there are others who haven't been able to tolerate the fragrance.  I thought that this whole line of products was geared to suit our type...it says that it is blood-type friendly.  I would think that products by Dr. D would be more easily tolerated by us than the other brands.

However, the first ingredient listed after water is sunflower oil which is an avoid for Os. So I was wondering about that as well.  


Ingested yes, it is an avoid for us O's, but topically it should be alright.  But then again, we are all individuals.

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Well...at any rate...if you can tolerate the scent, it's an AMAZING cream!!  The BEST that I've ever tried, and I've tried many different and expensive creams in my life-time.  

VERY HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!!!!  It made my skin look so much smoother and tighter after only one application of night cream!!  It really is miraculous!!!


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However, the first ingredient listed after water is sunflower oil which is an avoid for Os.  So I was wondering about that as well.  

It is possible that you are sensitive enough to the smell of the oil, or something else that you will never be able to use it without the ill effects.  
Who knows, you may be able to tolerate it after being on the diet longer and healing more...


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Narnia- maybe you should experiment with making your own creams for your face. Read through the ingredients in the night cream. Any other avoids in there besides the sunflower oil? What botanical ingredients are in there that you think you can tolerate AND that you think might be responsible for the benefits? Perhaps you could buy individual ingredients and make your own cream or oil to use instead.

Remember, Dr. D. himself stated that there are no added fragrances. The scent that bothers you is the natural scent of one of the ingredients, and to re-formulate the cream without the fragrance means re-formulating it with fewer, or different, botanical ingredients.

Compare the ingredients in the eye cream to the night cream- see what's different. Or how about just using the eye cream on your whole face?


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Ruthiegirl, thanks for trying to help me come up with a solution to my dilemma.

I have never made any creams, so I wouldn't even know where to begin.  I'm sure that the proportion of the ingredients and how they work synergistically is paramount.  It sounds like a daunting task.  

Thank you for your support and comfort.  




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Wanted to mention that I've been using the Genoma Night Creme with great success.  My hands are healing and not pealing as much, but it is still there.  I'm doing the whole Skin Protocol and it may take another few weeks.  Stopped using that abrasive Ajax dish soap which is a no-brainer.  The GTD would probably heal my hands (especially flax) if that's all I did.
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Narnia,
I have transitioned into using just the Eye Creme (which I adore!), and the Night Creme (which I love!).  I like the Day Creme, but my skin is very thin and delicate and the richer cremes are just what my face thrives on.  They aren't oily, just very nourishing and rich.
And I also have noticed all the wrinkles disappearing and my skin getting very smooth!  

Any aroma seems to be gone in a very short time.



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Victoria, I can only use the eye cream, as it is the only one that doesn't have a strong scent.

I have tried the day and night cream a couple more times and the scent just would not go away for me soon enough for me to tolerate them.

So, back to the avocado oil.  I think I'll order the genoma vitamins and work from the insde out.


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no doubt our susceptibilities vary, vive la difference!!!

me for example, I gag at the smell of green tea ice-cream made with coconut milk or
ginger flavored Haagaen Dazs to name a few!!!

all that to me has a strong scent, can t tolerate any of it


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Me tooooo.  Sadly as good as ginger is suppose to be for us, I can't stomach the smell.  I have a bad sushi experience from over 20 years ago to thank for that.  Just can't stand ginger now.  It is suppose to be a natural anti nausea spice and for me it does exactly the opposite.

I find all of Genoma products to be a pleasing smell.  To take away the smell would be taking away a really good anti aging botanical that is in it.  It could quite possibly render the product void of being the great product that it is.

There will always be a few that can't tolerate something or a rather with a product.  BUT, when the product works really well for the majority??? IMHO,  That makes it a good product.


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note that if I have ginger prepared my way, or added raw to anything I prepare, I thoroughly enjoy it.......it has to do with the processing used in the food industry that I cannot tolerate.
anything processed sweet or savory......no way....


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To take away the smell would be taking away a really good anti aging botanical that is in it.  It could quite possibly render the product void of being the great product that it is.


Hmmmm....then that makes me wonder if the eye cream does not have the anti-aging botanical, as it practically has no odor!!


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no doubt our susceptibilities vary, vive la difference!!!

me for example, I gag at the smell of green tea ice-cream made with coconut milk or
ginger flavored Haagaen Dazs to name a few!!!

all that to me has a strong scent, can t tolerate any of it


Lola, you have had both of these ice-creams?  That's unusual, as they are not very common flavors.

Actually.... the green tea coconut milk ice cream tastes bitter, but I can tolerate it for the creamy sensation.

However, I do love ginger ice-cream.  But, I can't have it anymore, so I am staying away.


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Hmmmm....then that makes me wonder if the eye cream does not have the anti-aging botanical, as it practically has no odor!!
But wouldn't the anti- aging botanical properties be more present in the eye cream Being that is where most of us get our first wrinkles?

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Hmmmm....then that makes me wonder if the eye cream does not have the anti-aging botanical, as it practically has no odor!!


No Narnia, that you would call an eye cream formula.  Not the same as a face cream, we use different properties for different formulas.   One does not often use eye cream as all over moisturizier.  A night cream used during the day for those wanting a heavier cream? Yes.  A day cream used at night for those that don't like a heavier cream? Yes.   BUT!! An eye cream used as an anti aging moisturizer?  I don't recommend it.  An eye cream is meant for eye tissue.


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you have had both of these ice-creams?


no, I mentioned I can t tolerate their smell, much less ingest such products!!!


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