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Complete Blood Type Encyclopedia, Page 93 (top left column), Therapies, Osteoarthritis "All Blood Groups" Item 2. Glucosamine/Chondroitin sulfate combination: 650 mg twice daily
Question: If chondroitin is an avoid for Type O; why is it recommended for "All Blood Groups"? Does this suggest that for Osteoarthritis, Type O should take the glucosamine/chondroitin sulfate combination?
I'm having trouble with my left hip so I consulted the Encyclopedia and find this recommendation confusing. Please clarify. Much thanks in advance of your help. |
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Lola |
| Saturday, June 12, 2010, 11:22pm |
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if you are sure that s what it says, then yes.... don t have my book with me |
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| Saturday, June 12, 2010, 11:25pm |
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Rex, I'd stick with just the glucosamine sulfate. I think that might be a mistake because Dr. D has said so many times that Condroitin is like a bad blood transfusion for Os. Jane |
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Lloyd |
| Saturday, June 12, 2010, 11:32pm |
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Glucosamine sulfate would be appropriate for an O.
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| Saturday, June 12, 2010, 11:33pm |
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might you follow one of the arthritis protocols on page 472? |
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Rex |
| Sunday, June 13, 2010, 1:16am |
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Lola...yes, I'm sure this is what it says...I copied it directly out of my book. Since I already have the glucosamine sulfate in my house now, I'll take the full recommended dose of it in addition to the full recommended dose of bromelain for a few days. I'm hoping this will do the trick for me. If not, I'll try following the Arthritis Protocol as deblynn3 suggested. Jane, as you said, I'm thinking that it may be a mistake since Dr. D has said that chondroitin for Type O is like a bad blood transfusion. I wish that Dr. D would jump in here and address this. |
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| Sunday, June 13, 2010, 1:27am |
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| Sunday, June 13, 2010, 1:38am |
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I just found the "Ask Dr. D'Adamo...Type O And Arthritis" blog dated 2009/08/13. Lola...if you get a chance to read this, is he saying that Chondroitin is ok for me in the case of arthritis when taken with Glucosamine? I'm confused because at the end he says not to take it. How do you interpret his blog? |
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| Sunday, June 13, 2010, 5:19am |
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In essence, taking chondroitin sulphate if you are either O or B is the chemical equivalent of giving yourself a bad blood transfusion.
as Lloyd mentioned.....no chondroitin for Os now let us know the page number in your book where it says otherwise |
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| Sunday, June 13, 2010, 6:48am |
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ok I checked, page 93, says the combination for all blood types, right Aberrant expression of lectins in the disease state was indeed how Dr. D explained this like just the other day he mentioned this about cancer in FB, not giving BT specificity
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Dr D people with colon cancer who get chemo should eat lots of peanuts and avoid mushrooms. Funny thing is, when the chemo is over, they should do the exact opposite.
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| Sunday, June 13, 2010, 10:57am |
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Ok, Lola...I think that I've got it now. Thanks for the explanation. So, now my understanding is that while I'm experiencing the pain of arthritis I can use the "off-BTD" recommendation and take the combo but as soon as I get myself back to normal I should revert back to my BTD plan. Do I have it right? Of note, this morning I'm feeling better...the pain seems to be subsiding. Last night I took the Bromelain & Glucos Sulfate in full dose...I think it made the difference. I'll do this for a few more days until I'm sure that I have calmed down the inflammation and then reduce the dose gradually to normal dose amounts. Thanks a million for spending so much time with me..as usual...you are worth a million to me. Also, thanks to everyone else who posted here. I appreciate your interest in my problems. |
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| Sunday, June 13, 2010, 3:50pm |
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we are all in this together, so your pain is my pain!!!  |
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| Monday, November 8, 2010, 4:28am |
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Couple more questions on glucosamine... I got some to take for leaky gut, as I heard it can help that condition, but I seemed to break out within the usual 20-30 minutes of taking it... They do say if it is made from shellfish that it can cause hives etc  Wonder what shellfish they are made from??!! & would glucosamine from fermented corn be ok? I know corn is an avoid, but Hunters (husband) can tolerate popcorn so obviously some form is ok...??!! |
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I bought some glucosamine over the holiday yes I admit to accomodate a cheat, only one  , but am wondering if it's good for anything? I mean does it have the same effect as the n-acetyl form. For whatever reason the NAG is harder to find otc. Is glucosamine sulfate a helpful supplement for Os? |
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So this is ok for all BT's and GT's? |
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| Tuesday, April 3, 2012, 5:46pm |
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Is glucosamine sulfate effective against lectin damage? |
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Rex - thanks for this post! I've been following the specific instructions in my BTD Menopause book, but I don't have the Arthritis one.  I've been taking Glucosamine Sulfate/ Chondroitin Sulfate for several years. A friend of mine who is currently in Medical School found a study that says there's not good enough proof that it works. So I was planning to just finish my bottle, and then just discontinue. I'm so glad I read this! I'm going to put the bottle in the garage... I've been abstaining from the potato, tomato, peppers, and eggplant quartet very compliantly for about 2 months now. I've been able to reduce my ibuprofin intake from 2 a day to none! Now that I know about no chondroitin I'll be happier. Thanks. Nadira |
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| Tuesday, April 3, 2012, 7:38pm |
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No one has the answer huh............. |
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Is glucosamine sulfate effective against lectin damage?
No one has the answer huh.............
I'm not qualified to answer this with any confidence. Because I understand what Deflect is supposed to do and by comparing the chemical structures of the two, it appears that Glucosamine sulfate isn't going to release the sacrificial sugars as easily as the product Dr. D. uses... |
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Yes I think the n-acetyl glucosamine gets the lectins. |
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Possum |
| Tuesday, April 3, 2012, 11:35pm |
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Sahara - would depend on what is causing the lectin damage...  Only thing I know about sulphates is that if you react to sulphites, sals &/or oxalates (might be all but def sulphites) you have to go easy with the sulphates as although the body needs the sulphates to deal with the sulphites, taking too much at a time can cause more problems initially  |
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