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| Sunday, September 23, 2012, 12:25pm |
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Have changed opinion Adamo abou 5-htp today? Anybody knows? |
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ruthiegirl |
| Sunday, September 23, 2012, 1:49pm |
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He hasn't published anything new about 5-HTP in several years. His ongoing research is in other areas.
It's in the "stress protocol" for non-secretors of all types. I've been using it for years and it helps me keep my depression under control (along with eating enough beneficials, avoiding the avoids, and exercising.) He doesn't recommend it for secretors.
It's certainly possible for an individual secretor to need the seratonin boost and to do well with this supplement, at least in the short term. But it shouldn't be the first supplement to reach for, as others are more likely to be helpful to an O secretor. |
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Goldie |
| Sunday, September 23, 2012, 2:11pm |
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Hello Everyone I'm new here. I have a friend who told me about this forum and told me to set up my profile info. which I will do soon. Welcome and I am glad you are here.. My experience was interesting .. I am an O Secretor and am following the Swami for my type. Since I am trying to stay away from sugar, a life long addiction, I am having not only withdrawal symptoms but I have also found that I have used sugar for 40 years of my life to deal with low level depression. YES I did the same thing.. and yes it works just as you are saying.. but I have tested this out a number of times, not because I want to but because my darkness comes in and as soon as I eat a sugary and sometimes chocolate item, within a few minutes I am ok again. The darkness is lifted and I feel almost immediately better. YES YOU have observed correctly.. I think it is the reason why so many eat sugary stuff??? YES! I have done MUCH reading on the topic and found a very good book "The Hidden Addiction and How to Break Free" http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316704717/ref=oss_product I will get that book if you report on it.. This really hit home with what I feel has been going on with me. IT IS WONDERFUL when you find on answer.. Dr D's books did the same for me.. but often the further explanation was missing.. or his books would need to be 3 times bigger.. So I have been researching further and I'm going to try 5-HTTP and I found one that does not contain that seed that O's are supposed to not ingest at: http://www.webnat.com/proddetail.asp?prod=2806-4 I have taken 5HTP and loved it.. for just the reason you are mentioning.. as female I was at a low point in my life where I felt spineless.. I wanted to regain some inner strength and it helped.. I did not take it long but I would take one every so often even now.. So I'm wondering the best way to take it for O's specifically i.e. morning or night or afternoon or when to help me survive my dark depressions that hit me mostly in the afternoons and especially hard if I am working on withdrawing from sugar. It did not matter.then and now.. I take it when you have a neeed... BUT here is the other real thing... coming back to Dr D.. He recently sold me on Trehalose complex.. there is much written here.. buy it from Nap... money well spent.. others have felt uplifted and energized also..
It is supposed to scrub bad stuff out of the brain.. well I took it and sooon after found that I had fewer headaches.. then I found that oh incidentally I felt UPLIFTED and found a space, wall or a break, between me and trouble that would aggravate me.. This over time.. was interesting, as it gave me PAUSE to FIGURE out that I was getting headaches because of tightening of my neck muscles when I was doing circular thinking- self inflicted stress!.. Then after that I went on a search for why muscles contract and create trigger points and pain and found that Magnesium helped..
This is a long answer.. but I have had sugar addiction.. yes it helpers but it also rebounds.. as by the way any pill will do.. so good luck on all you will experience.. (sorry I did not read the previous responses.. )
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BluesSinger |
| Sunday, September 23, 2012, 4:52pm |
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Goldie |
| Monday, September 24, 2012, 2:20pm |
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 Gatherer diabetic-70 Scorp/Sag on BTD/GENO 16 year Sam Dan
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BluesSinger |
| Monday, September 24, 2012, 4:00pm |
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 Swami Following HUNTER Autumn: Harvest, success. 
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How????
stops my cravings for junk. |
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ABJoe |
| Monday, September 24, 2012, 4:54pm |
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The challenge for you is to learn what you are short of that makes you have the cravings and find ways to fill that need in your system with beneficial foods... |
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ruthiegirl |
| Monday, September 24, 2012, 5:31pm |
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 SWAMI O+ Gatherer, Healing from Fibromyalgia Kyosha NimColumnists and Bloggers 
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Yes, that's the ideal- to get all our nutrients from foods and not need supplements at all. But sometimes foods aren't enough. Some people find supplements helpful in the short term, to speed up healing that could have been accomplished through diet alone. In other cases, supplements promote healing that diet alone couldn't do, or are needed long-term to correct problems that arose from years of eating the wrong things. |
| Ruth, Single Mother to 18yo O- Leah, 17yo O- Hannah, and 11yo B+ Jack
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RAW0+ |
| Monday, September 24, 2012, 5:34pm |
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 43% Gatherer SWAMI NN Le(a-b+) PROP-T Early Spring: Awareness, desire. 
Posts: 22
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Location: Poland
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I discovered one thing. For your happiness you need 2 neurotransmitters: during the day from the morning: Dopamine- with Tyrosine in food and evening, night: Serotonin- with Tryptophan and carbohydrates in food. I'm on zero carb so I take late morning L-Tyrosine (better) or L-Phenylalanine and evening 5-HTP. |
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BluesSinger |
| Monday, September 24, 2012, 6:41pm |
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Yes, that's the ideal- to get all our nutrients from foods and not need supplements at all. But sometimes foods aren't enough. Some people find supplements helpful in the short term, to speed up healing that could have been accomplished through diet alone. In other cases, supplements promote healing that diet alone couldn't do, or are needed long-term to correct problems that arose from years of eating the wrong things.
this is absolutely right on. I had 3 months of almost 100% compliance once. But I felt low level depressed... dull.. soon i was back into food that my brain wanted to feel good. So to discover these amino's and how they are helping me re-group and get back on track is a miracle. If you read the mood cure or the diet cure you will understand. yes food is the healer but for those of us shorted of good brain chemistry by inheritance or by damaging ourselves with food so badly that our brain chemistry is ping ponging without what it needs... and thus reaching for the bad instead of the good out of desperation to feel good.. amino's play a crucial roll back to sanity. |
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