hello,

I'm just starting Armour for low thyroid and have read that Isocort is a good Adrenal support - has anyone had any experience with this product ?   I notice it's got lactose as a filler and I don't tolerate Lactose - is there another option apart from Isocort that is still over the counter ?

Many thanks in advance - Mel x

I've used Drenatrophin by Standard Process with good results.  Right now I prefer licorice extract for adrenal support.  I use one with a glycerine base because I can't handle the alcohol base ones.  

Hi Mel,

I have had to use Isocort in the past and it did help with my adrenals.  I have also used hydrocortisone (HC) for a short period.  There are other adrenal support products, one that my daughter uses is call adrenal adapt.  Check this yahoogroup where there is a lot of information and suggestions for adrenal support:  naturalhormonethyroidADRENALS.

roller56

http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-Suggest/m-1167308914/
It is freeze dried adrenal  cortex.  The caution with this
is you don't want to overuse it because it can  make your
adrenals lazy by relying on the supplement.  The key is to use
it just long  enough for them to get working on their own.

I've used IsoCort and think it had a big part in helping my adrenals recover.  Yes, it does have lactose, but it also has lactase which is the enzyme to use lactose.  I guess it depends on your level of tolerance.

Also, Enzymatic Therapy makes a supplement I've used which seemed to help.  It's a glandular called ADRENergize and it contains:

    Adrenal Cortex Extract  250 mg
    Multi-Glandular Complex  100 mg.
       (liver, lung, pancreas, heart, kidney and spleen)
   other ingredients: gelatin,cellulose, magnesium stearate and
   titanium dioxide color  (could live without some of these)

They also make a similar named supplement called Herbal ADRENergize which contains Bupleurum Chinese Root, Eleuthero Root Extract, Panax Ginseng Root Extract, Wild Yam Root Extract, Licorice Root and Rhizome Extract and Turmeric Rhizome Extract.  It has a vegetable polysaccharide capsule, magnesium stearate and silicon dioxide.

The level of adrenal stress will probably determine if you should use a glandular (for more stressed) or an herbal formula (for not as stressed).  

Good luck and remember the BTD is a good foundation for other supplements to work more effectively.

melyum, wishing you a warm welcome to BTD and the forums!!

I have had Armour added to my other thyroid med, Levoxyl, recetnly. However, thyroid issues are a symptom of adrenal fatigue. But I think you my have gathered that already.

After probably about a year of trying this and that, I had a hair analysis done........I have had thyroid problems most of my life and now have chronic adrenal probs. My ND said this means there is something causing a constant stress on my system. In looking at my hair analysis, it proved to be copper toxicity. The only way to remove that, I'm told, is by oral chelation. Just waiting for the supplements now. I can't wait to start them and see if it will truly help. I'm so fed up w/ this adrenal problem, so hope you have better luck than I have had in the past. I would urge anyone who has constant adrenal issues to have a hair analysis done and more importantly have someone who knows how to interpret it. I am lucky that I have someone to do that. He is in the process of starting a website to help others. He will be a blessing to many people. His heart is truly in the right place. His goal is more to help others be well than to make tons of money.

Without correcting the underlying problem (ie, the cause), I (or anyone) could take adrenal supplements, Vit C, B5, etc, etc forever and never really make any progress in healing. It would just be putting a bandaid on it.  

pestos all the way!!!

italybound, good luck with your adrenal stuff  

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In looking at my hair analysis, it proved to be copper toxicity. The only way to remove that, I'm told, is by oral chelation.

Pat, I don't have any links handy, but I seem to recall that sauna (or maybe it was deep infra-red sauna) can help remove excess copper. If I recall, sweating it out allows stores to deplete in order to replenish the amount normally circulating. Might be worth finding out more about, sauna is great for us fatigued O's.

Would setting in a hot tub {103 f.) give the same results as a sauna? I use ours 3 to 4 times a week.

Sauna, infra-red sauna, steam bath. The D'Adamo clinic uses deep infra-red: http://www.dadamo.com/clinic/detox.htm

That link does not mention copper. I still don't know where I saw it, will do a search later.  

The idea is to sweat freely and not reabsorb what what sweated out. I would hazard a guess that a hot tub would help but be less efficient, that is just a guess. I do know that a jacuzzi was real nice when I had one available for a week earlier this year.  

I would like to build one like an Indian sweat lodge
but probably not as efficient as modern ones.

If you don't tolerate lactose, I wouldn't think you'd want a formula that contains it.

I use Quantum's Adrenal Energy formula. It helps me feel balanced, calm and at the same
time energized.  It's liquid, doesn't contain lactose and the ingredients are:

Rhodiola, Siberian ginseng, Oat Seed, Maca root,schizandra berry, ashwaganda root and
sarsparilla.

I also take Tranquility Base from NAP if I feel stressed.

Other things I've taken for the adrenals is Holy Basil from New Chapter.

Doesn't Standard Process use animal organs in their supplements?
I didn't think type A was supposed to be using bovine products.  Here's what I found on
Drenatrophin.

"Drenatrophin PMG contains Protomorphogen™ extracts which are uniquely derived nucleoprotein-mineral extracts that support cellular health. Bovine adrenal PMG™ extract helps maintain the adrenals in a good state of repair to support healthy adrenal function."

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I've used Drenatrophin by Standard Process with good results.  Right now I prefer licorice extract for adrenal support.  I use one with a glycerine base because I can't handle the alcohol base ones.  

unlike chicken which has a lectin not advised for Bs even in the form of broth made of anything chicken, beef in fact does not.

what As should avoid is the meat, not an extraction thereof.
http://www.dadamo.com/forum/archivec/config.pl?read=108129
http://www.dadamo.com/forum/convert1/config.pl?read=442

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The reason you are not getting a reaction to beef is due to the fact that beef doesn't contain a lectin which reacts with type A. It is restricted because they cannot metabolize it because of a lack of stomach acid and intestinal enzymes. The "Lectin Connection" is only one of the determinants of whether a food is good or bad for a particular blood type.

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That link does not mention copper. I still don't know where I saw it, will do a search later.  

These may be worth looking at:

Link#1

About the same

More interesting

some other info

A view of chelation vs sauna

There are other sites I didn't pull up from the search menu. A limited amount of science but worth a read.

Rodney check these out!
http://www.tlahui.com/temaz1.html
very effective prehispanic steam bath rituals.

Isocort  by Bezwecken provides standardized dose of adreno-cortical substance (cortisol) to supplement adrenal function. Each pellet provides 2.45mg of cortisol when metabolized by the gut. Isocort plant-based formulation; this new formulation provides the same amount of cortisol as the old glandular formulation and yielded the same results in testing.

Isocort by Bezwecken provides standardized dose of adreno-cortical substance (cortisol) to supplement adrenal function.

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