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Leanne
Tuesday, May 8, 2007, 8:41pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Howdy! I've posted this question before but it's been a while and I'd hoped that perhaps there were more or different people that might be able to give me an accurate answer.
Does anyone know the difference between ARA6 and Ambrotose? I appreciate all of the information that I have received on ARA6 but so far I haven't read anything that I didn't already know and there were no comparisons on the product of Ambrotose.

I've put a lot of search into this and am still left unanswered. From what I've learned I feel that they are roughly the same kind of product with the exception that ARA6 is a lot cheaper. Does that mean that it's less concentrated or just that Ambrotose is made by an MLM company and need the money to pay all of their up line?
Would appreciate a scientific answer not just an opinion.

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Larch arabinogalactan
http://www.dadamo.com/napharm/store3/template2/ara.htm

NSC 24
http://www.nsc24.com/
Beta glucan is also found in maitake mushroom (Grifola frondosa)
I wouldn t know........


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I don't know about this product.  I do know that Dr. D has posted that the Larch that he gets and uses in his products is pharmaceutical grade.  If the product you want to use has Larch, try to find out if it's just food grade, or pharmaceutical grade.



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Since Ambratose is trademarked, it will be difficult to find exact formulas, etc. for it.  I did find some basic information about Advanced Ambrotose at this website:
http://www.buyambrotosecomplex.com/Advanced-Ambrotose--150-Gram-53-oz-p-2.html

You may be able to get more information from a distributor, if they actually have a bottle on-hand or will answer questions prior to purchase...


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It is my understanding that NAP has a patent on arabinogalactin and that all products that contain arabinogalactin use NAP as the source.

If this is incorrect, hopefully someone who knows can clarify.
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Ambrotose has type O avoids in it.

Ingredients: Arabinogalactan (from Larix spp. wood) , Aloe Vera (inner leaf
gel powder)
, Rice Starch , Ghatti Gum , Gum Tragacanth ,
Glucosamine HCl (vegetarian) , Wakame (Undaria pinnatifida)
Algae Extract .


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Actually, I wasn't aware of the fact that NAP might have a patent on arabinogalactins being that it comes from many sources... I think.  I do know that Ambrotose is a patented product; I have taken it.  It's so very simliar to ARA6 that that's the reason I was asking.  What exactly is the difference?
In the patent for Ambrotose from the US Patent Office, they refer to NAP and Dr. D'Adamo's work and it was this that made me question their exact source of arabinogalactins.  
I've been extremely curious to know if the potency is the same for each product or if one is more diluted than the other.  I think that's the real question that I'm after.  I've switched back and forth between the two of them and so far haven't noticed any major difference in the way that my body reacts to them... although, as it's already been mentioned, Ambrotose does contain aloe.  I'm told that the outer leaf part of the aloe is what most people react to.  Maybe someone knows more about that.
Anyhow, thanks for the responses.  Would continue to know more if you had the info.
Leanne!


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try to avoid any type of gums in general, cause they enhance lectin activity....something you want to avoid being on BTD, for anti inflammatory reasons and what not.

your product is full of those, plus certain avoids for your type.....so you decide what s best for your body, no one else.
we are only given the tools to make that decision.


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Gum Tragacanth is OK, since it is in Deflect O.



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On page 165 of LR4YT, in the "O" section, under Crohn's Disease, Dr. D'Adamo writes, "Avoid gums, such as carageenan, ghatti and acacia, which are often used as food stabilizers. Look for foods that are stabilized by other methods."


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Quoted from Leanne
Actually, I wasn't aware of the fact that NAP might have a patent on arabinogalactins being that it comes from many sources... I think.  I do know that Ambrotose is a patented product; I have taken it.  It's so very simliar to ARA6 that that's the reason I was asking.  What exactly is the difference?
In the patent for Ambrotose from the US Patent Office, they refer to NAP and Dr. D'Adamo's work and it was this that made me question their exact source of arabinogalactins.  
I've been extremely curious to know if the potency is the same for each product or if one is more diluted than the other.  I think that's the real question that I'm after.  I've switched back and forth between the two of them and so far haven't noticed any major difference in the way that my body reacts to them... although, as it's already been mentioned, Ambrotose does contain aloe.  I'm told that the outer leaf part of the aloe is what most people react to.  Maybe someone knows more about that.
Anyhow, thanks for the responses.  Would continue to know more if you had the info.
Leanne!


The difference is, Dr. D's product does not contain any type of avoids for your type.  The same can not be said for Ambrotose, since it has the aloe vera and the Gantti gum.  Dr. D'Adamo has formulated ARA6 so that it can safely be taken by all blood types.  The same can not be said for Ambrotose.


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Leanne
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Once again thanks for the information, I appreciate it.  

Just a note that I'm completely at ease sticking with ARA6, it's cheaper and seems to work just as well.  

I have a friend who was incredibly sick, to the point that she'd made out her will for her children to go to her mother if she died.  One time she collapsed in her floor and her heart stopped for a minute or so.  I have to admit that she was pretty bad off.  
You couldn't deny the changes that took place in her when she began Ambrotose and about three other of their products.  It's been a little bit since I've spoken with her but last time I did, she was struggling to keep up with affording everything.  I simply wondered if she were to switch to ARA6 and some of D'Adamo's products if she would have similar results?  She is a type A, which might explain why she was so swift to react to Ambrotose being that it's made up of mostly aloe.
As many of you know, these days it's difficult to get people to change their diet.  They'd much rather pop a pill than have to (oh, no!) actually give up ice cream!    My friend is only partly compliant simply because many things just don't settle with her, such as meat.  But I'd hoped that  at least taking the BTD products it would perhaps help her.
After being 8 years on the BTD I am quite content to stay there.  I've had all the weird looks that the rest of you've had but when they look at my four kids and my size 10 figure there's really not much to argue.  Not that the BTD is all about weight loss, it's more of a side effect, but over all I'm a rather healthy person.
The input on this subject has been very good.  Thanks.
Leanne!


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hope you can convince her on adapting the right lifestyle and guidelines for her type!


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