can calcium or mag cause leg tingling. They've been tingling when I work out

MOTHER - I dont know the right answer to that, but I am taking my magnesium all through the day 250mgs with Breakfas,t lunch and dinner. I couple that with the D3 at breakfast and at dinner, but sounds like I can up my D3 a little.

So total I take 750mgs Mag
2000 iu's D3 - I am going to up it to 3000, maybe more.

I heard that you should take calcium and magnesium together if you want to increase calcium absorbtion/ for bone health, but magnesium by itself for muscle soreness/magnesium deficiency. I used to take a cal/mag/zinc in the AM adn then a separate magnesium at night. I stopped the mag at night when I switched to transdermal magnesium oil. I vascilate between takign the cal/mag in the morning or not- some days I take 2 (as rcomended on the bottle) some days one, some days none.

Today I took an oral magnesium pill for constipation releif, but once i'm back to my normal diet I'll stop that again.

FYI,..... loads of magnesium information here.

http://web.mit.edu/london/www/magnesium.html

maybe i should steal moms bottle of mag oil for my hip/back and see if i can at least make it more functional. went dancing last night and that muscle between the hip and lower back is killing me. on the med pain scale i think i would give it an eight.

Chloe - thanks for that link...One of the things I picked up was:

"Taking magnesium with calcium is often suggested, because the 2 minerals work together in buildling bones.  Another good reason for taking the calcium, is that calcium (especially calcium carbonate) can offset some of the laxative effect from the magnesium.  Traditionally, it's been recommended to take calcium and magnesium in a ratio of 2/1, as that is the ratio of the RDA of calcium and magnesium.  However, magnesium is often poorly absorbed, so many doctors believe the ratio should be closer to 1/1."

So I guess since it fascilitates over 300 functions in your body, it would depend what you are taking it for? Which is inline with what you posted Ruthie??!!

Quoted from Lola

If using the Cal/Mag together does not work, try JUST magnesium.  Magnesium is necessary for many functions in the body (as is calcium), but for this specific problem, it is the magnesium alone that you are looking for.  Calcium and magnesium are very similar ions and tend to counteract each other.  Calcium helps contract muscles, magnesium helps relax them.  Therefore, taking them together for muscle relaxation is futile.
calcium during the day (when you need to contract your muscles to move) and magnesium at night (when you need them to relax).

Thanks for this Lola! My mother, who has had a heart attack, almost half of her colon removed from diverticulitis, etc. was told to take both of them. The massive dose of Magnesium of course sends her to the bathroom more times than not but, she takes them both together! Oddly enough, the magnesium is to help with severe muscle cramps and yet she still seems to have them. So, now it makes total sense! Thanks for passing this on!!

Junebug, calcium and magnesium can also be taken at separate times during the day so that if a person does need them both, they don't interfere with each other.

I was recently made aware of Magnesium as needed for muscle cramping.. and maybe Neuropathy..  I was told by my doctor that it is hard to absorb, but that Phillips Milk of Magnesia will work fine, but will give a person diarrhea.. I was willing to try anything.

I have been taking it for when I get muscle cramping before my trigeminal neuro headaches, and it did not give me diarrhea -- but it seems to help me before the stress induced headaches come on..sort of prevention...  

and maybe within the last few days since I took it every other day, it helped with bathroom visits.. So for me.. Magnesium seems to cause no elimination issues, or maybe only when one does not need MORE of it..    

This is relatively new for me, but it looks help and hopeful..  

Magnesium oxide is very poorly absorbed and more use as a laxative than for anything else.

snip from the link below:
Only about 4% of its elemental magnesium is absorbed or about 12 mg out of a 500 mg tablet. end snip

Chelated magnesium [magnesium glycinate] is far better.  Dr's Best do one but put black pepper in it to aid absorption, my stomach is hopeless with that one, so I use KAL brand which suits me fine.

http://www.yourhealthbase.com/database/ihnmagnesium.html

It sounds like your mom isn't absorbing the magnesium she's taking- so it causes loose stools, but little is getting into the body to do what it has to do.

She may benefit from using magnesium topically rather than internally, using epsom salts soaks and/or magnesium oil. You can do a search for magnesium oil (magnesium chloride) for more information on how to use that.

Thanks for all the info everyone! It was very helpful. Mom has changed her schedule of taking the two supplements to start and we'll see in the next day or so how it goes!

You guys are just amazing here, thanks so much for all the information and exeriences that you share!

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calcium and magnesium can also be taken at separate times during the day so that if a person does need them both, they don't interfere with each other.

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calcium during the day (when you need to contract your muscles to move) and magnesium at night (when you need them to relax).

http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-pres/m-1177715123/s-300/#num321

Quoted from Ellie

I found this on my internet travels, reminded me that as a B I may be prone to magnesium deficiency, isn't it amazing what a lack of one vitamin/mineral can do?
(i certainly have some of the problems listed).

http://forum.t-tapp.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=32662

Anyone taking or has taken magnesium, how long till you notice if it's made a difference (i know, this could be like asking "how long's a piece of string?") ?

Ellie, would you mind resending this link? I cannot get it to open even copying it to another browser...
Thx!

Looks like the original magnesium thread doesn't exist anymore.  Try this one.

http://forum.t-tapp.com/showthread.php?55532-Magnesium-oil-revisited&highlight=magnesium

Quoted from Victoria

Looks like the original magnesium thread doesn't exist anymore.  Try this one.

http://forum.t-tapp.com/showthread.php?55532-Magnesium-oil-revisited&highlight=magnesium

Thanks V!

Quoted from 1323

What about Peter Gillham's 'Natural Calm'?

3 tsp in a cup of warm water provides 615 mg of elemental magnesium citrate.

Would this be as good as the spray on oil?

Funky, I just picked up a container of powdered natural calm but do not see any reference to Peter Gillham. It is mag citrate though and seems to disolve quite easily. I just began taking it prior to bed so I'll let y'all know my thoughts and results as they surface.

My thoughts relative to your question of oil vs:? basically comes down to one's ability to absorb...
Cheers from Golfzilla!

I also started taking magnesium about 3 weeks ago, am fighting, and believe winning the battle, against MS.  Had speech, vision & balance issues, found the GenoType diet, started it and added magnesium and noticed an improvement in 20 minutes, but it would wear off after several hours.
Now, about 3 weeks later, I notice a lengthier gap between taking the magnesium and symptoms, my voice is improving, vision is way better, I believe I will have to go for an eye exam very soon, and I no longer feel like I will fall down all the time, and I feel less 'passing out tired' in the daytime, it had got that bad!
A thousand, no, million, thanks to Dr. D'Adamo who I believe saved my life.
This way of eating is definitely the way to go for health.  And such a simple change too.
Such a pity I wasn't taught all this when way younger, just glad I know now.

anna,
you are an inspiration to all!
thanks for sharing !

Great input here from many, I am now however unable to conclude if magnesium should or should not be taken with calcium..?

Also if calcium & magnesium should be taken with or without other synergistic vitamins or minerals or not..?

What are your experiences and results with pills/capsles, powder, liquid?

Help & Thx!
GZ~

Quoted from Golfzilla

Great input here from many, I am now however unable to conclude if magnesium should or should not be taken with calcium..?

Also if calcium & magnesium should be taken with or without other synergistic vitamins or minerals or not..?

What are your experiences and results with pills/capsles, powder, liquid?

I haven't responded to your question about this yet, because I'm not sure.  I have heard both perspectives.  About equally as many say that calcium and mag. need to be taken together, as those who say that they interfere with each other and need to be taken separately.  Dr. D gives us the choice in his store, with Clear Cal being just calcium with trace minerals naturally occurring in the seaweed;  and Phytocal (for each blood type) which has both, along with other minerals.

I personally buy Dr. D's Clear Cal, which I think is the most awesome calcium I have ever taken.  I take a couple of capsules of that with breakfast and with lunch.  At lunch, I add a couple of capsules of Advanced Magnesium by Answers from Nature.  Then with dinner I take 2 capsules of Advanced Magnesium.  So calcium alone - then cal. and mag. together - then mag. alone.

Yes, I believe that supportive minerals need to be taken also.  You can check out Dr. D's Phytocal O (Sea-based mineral formula) for what he considers the necessary minerals for a type O.
http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=BT008O

That formula is a very good one.  If you don't want to get it, you can use it as a guide for what to buy individually.

Another way to get balanced minerals to supplement the Calcium and Magnesium is something like Concentrace Mineral Drops from sea water.  I like to put a drop in every 8 oz of water that I drink.  
http://www.traceminerals.com/products/liquid-tablet-minerals/concentrace-ionic-minerals

Quoted from Victoria

I haven't responded to your question about this yet, because I'm not sure.  I have heard both perspectives.  About equally as many say that calcium and mag. need to be taken together, as those who say that they interfere with each other and need to be taken separately.  Dr. D gives us the choice in his store, with Clear Cal being just calcium with trace minerals naturally occurring in the seaweed;  and Phytocal (for each blood type) which has both, along with other minerals.

I personally buy Dr. D's Clear Cal, which I think is the most awesome calcium I have ever taken.  I take a couple of capsules of that with breakfast and with lunch.  At lunch, I add a couple of capsules of Advanced Magnesium by Answers from Nature.  Then with dinner I take 2 capsules of Advanced Magnesium.  So calcium alone - then cal. and mag. together - then mag. alone.

Yes, I believe that supportive minerals need to be taken also.  You can check out Dr. D's Phytocal O (Sea-based mineral formula) for what he considers the necessary minerals for a type O.
http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=BT008O

That formula is a very good one.  If you don't want to get it, you can use it as a guide for what to buy individually.

Another way to get balanced minerals to supplement the Calcium and Magnesium is something like Concentrace Mineral Drops from sea water.  I like to put a drop in every 8 oz of water that I drink.  
http://www.traceminerals.com/products/liquid-tablet-minerals/concentrace-ionic-minerals

Victoria, thanks! I just began taking the Concentrace, glad to hear of your approval of it. I would say to my surprise the directions say 40 drops with water or juice..?

However I thought I might be closing in on something relative to me not sleeping & magnesium. I read several schools of thought saying to not take cal & mag together, consequently I'm back at the drawing board so to speak... I take the powdered mag at night bfore bed however I take a liquid calcium in the morning that also has mag in it

When I read about taking the cal in the morning due to it contributing to more effective utilization of muscles during the day I thought "bingo" , sounds logical, then the next I read to take the cal & mag combo but at night Who is on first? Ha! To your knowledge has Dr D written anyting on this subject..?

Ok, I'll stop here however once again all this is much appreciated
Cheers from GZ!

Quoted from Victoria

I haven't responded to your question about this yet, because I'm not sure.  I have heard both perspectives.  About equally as many say that calcium and mag. need to be taken together, as those who say that they interfere with each other and need to be taken separately.  Dr. D gives us the choice in his store, with Clear Cal being just calcium with trace minerals naturally occurring in the seaweed;  and Phytocal (for each blood type) which has both, along with other minerals.

I personally buy Dr. D's Clear Cal, which I think is the most awesome calcium I have ever taken.  I take a couple of capsules of that with breakfast and with lunch.  At lunch, I add a couple of capsules of Advanced Magnesium by Answers from Nature.  Then with dinner I take 2 capsules of Advanced Magnesium.  So calcium alone - then cal. and mag. together - then mag. alone.

Yes, I believe that supportive minerals need to be taken also.  You can check out Dr. D's Phytocal O (Sea-based mineral formula) for what he considers the necessary minerals for a type O.
http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=BT008O

That formula is a very good one.  If you don't want to get it, you can use it as a guide for what to buy individually.

Another way to get balanced minerals to supplement the Calcium and Magnesium is something like Concentrace Mineral Drops from sea water.  I like to put a drop in every 8 oz of water that I drink.  
http://www.traceminerals.com/products/liquid-tablet-minerals/concentrace-ionic-minerals

V, if one were to decide to take cal in the morning and Mag at night is it safe to assume there would still be cal in the body if it were needed for the two to interact if in fact that is required?

Quoted from Golfzilla

V, if one were to decide to take cal in the morning and Mag at night is it safe to assume there would still be cal in the body if it were needed for the two to interact if in fact that is required?

My guess?  I'd say yes.  

I ran out of the Now brand magnesium citrate powder I've been taking and now that I'm going to buy more, I thought I'd put it out to all of you to find out what you all use (not talking about mag oil, I have that, too). I already swallow a lot of other supps at the moment, so I'm only interested in a powdered supp for magnesium. There are at least two forms...citrate and glycate...which one is better? I already take a high-quality calcium so am looking for magnesium only.