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Hi Scout.. I use NutriBiotic Fresh Fruit Bubble Bath.  I get it from Wild Oats.   I think it's ok as far as ingredients!
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I haven't read the whole thread, so forgive me if my question has already been answered

I can't take citrate of anything, unless I'm sure it's made without corn derived citric acid.  I don't really know what type of magnesium to take, magnesium oxide or chelate?  There were a number of choices on the shelf.

I picked up the chelate, and unfortunately I think I started coming down with something after taking it.  Not related to the magnesium I think, actually a virus or something, but I'm still hesitant to take it again.  I guess I better post my question to the corn allergy forum, they might know what brand is truly corn-free.

I've heard that calcium and magnesium both can help with food allergies, and my food allergies acted up after a bout of stomach flu followed by a vacation with poor diet choices...so it makes sense that it could have something to do with nutrient deficiency.  The allergies flared up when I was pregnant also, so also could be a deficiency there.  I found a new MD who has 3 years holistic training, and does SRT and a few other alternative treatments, so that's pretty good for here, and she said that if you ever test out on a blood test as low in magnesium, then you are absolutely out of magnesium, because the body will keep the blood levels normal at any price.  I tested low on it many years ago, it's normal now, but I think I still have issues with it, and with all the calcium I'm taking, I need more Mg.


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Very informative thread...thanks. And...(using my sticky powers) is now a sticky thread.

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I haven't read the whole thread, so forgive me if my question has already been answered

I can't take citrate of anything, unless I'm sure it's made without corn derived citric acid. I don't really know what type of magnesium to take, magnesium oxide or chelate? There were a number of choices on the shelf.

I picked up the chelate, and unfortunately I think I started coming down with something after taking it. Not related to the magnesium I think, actually a virus or something, but I'm still hesitant to take it again. I guess I better post my question to the corn allergy forum, they might know what brand is truly corn-free.

I've heard that calcium and magnesium both can help with food allergies, and my food allergies acted up after a bout of stomach flu followed by a vacation with poor diet choices...so it makes sense that it could have something to do with nutrient deficiency. The allergies flared up when I was pregnant also, so also could be a deficiency there. I found a new MD who has 3 years holistic training, and does SRT and a few other alternative treatments, so that's pretty good for here, and she said that if you ever test out on a blood test as low in magnesium, then you are absolutely out of magnesium, because the body will keep the blood levels normal at any price. I tested low on it many years ago, it's normal now, but I think I still have issues with it, and with all the calcium I'm taking, I need more Mg.


Melissa, it looks like it would be best if you read the thread and the link material and all your questions would be answered.

The BTD and the magnesium protocol should be enough to put us on track to a very healthy lifestyle.

But you already know that! Cheers John


 
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I better post my question to the corn allergy forum, they might know what brand is truly corn-free.

once you get your answer, I d love to know, also!
thanks!


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Melissa, this thread is about *transdermal* magnesium chloride.  It's from either The Great Salt Lake or sea water.  

You don't need to take mag internally if you use the transdermal--it fills you up with what your body needs from the outside in!  
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STICKY: Magnesium          Thanks!
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Hi Everyone,

Thank you, Mrs. Rogers, for your tip about Magnesium Oil. I just had to order
some!

And thank you, Scout, for your info on where to get it pretty inexpensively through
Joan at the T-Tapp website.

Now to patiently wait for its arrival. I'll report any good results.

I also am trying the "Oil Pull" that was mentioned on this site. Either I'm
very open to suggestion or it works. Did it twice yesterday and once today so
far and I'm full with less food, crave chocolate less and less along with other
carbs, and feel more cheerful. My daughter recommends I do it for a few
weeks to determine if this is mind over matter....or not.

It does take a bit of preperation. Like drinking 1/4 tsp. of baking soda in 1/2 glass of water
to keep alkaline. Brushing and dental flossing my teeth before swishing the tablespoon
of sunflower oil and a few drops of peppermint oil around in my mouth for 20 minutes.
Then rinsing and brushing my teeth again and drinking a glass of water. Ahhhh.

This sure is an interesting and helpful website. I learn something new regularly.
Thank you all.

Cordially,
Margaret


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keep us posted!


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Hi Everyone,


It does take a bit of preperation. Like drinking 1/4 tsp. of baking soda in 1/2 glass of water
to keep alkaline. Brushing and dental flossing my teeth before swishing the tablespoon
of sunflower oil and a few drops of peppermint oil around in my mouth for 20 minutes.
Then rinsing and brushing my teeth again and drinking a glass of water. Ahhhh.

This sure is an interesting and helpful website. I learn something new regularly.
Thank you all.

Cordially,
Margaret


Hey Margaret...I enjoy the oil pulling myself although I need to do it more often. Just a suggestion...you may want to substitute the sunflower oil (an avoid for O's) for a more compliant oil like olive or flax or grapeseed. I know that you are just swishing it around in your mouth and not swallowing it. At least most of it, but since digestion starts with your saliva in your mouth it would probably be more beneficial to use a compliant oil. IMHO. How have you been sleeping? How are your dreams?

Debra



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Hello Debra,

Thank you for the reminder that "sunflower" anything is an avoid for 0s.
I thought of that initially but you are right that what we put into our mouth can
also be absorbed into the bloodsteam directly...like the Magnesium oil, etc.,
or we start digesting the oil.

So I used Olive Oil this a.m., plan to get some Grapeseed Oil, and
forget the sunflower oil.

How am I sleeping? Well, it was the weekend and I generally sleep well
because I can go to bed late and sleep in (at least on Saturday). Last night I
only got 4 hours sleep...far too little....but it was restful. Didn't notice any
dreams...I seldom have them.

Have you notcied an increase in the dream catagory which you
attribute to the oil pulling?

Please keep me posted.

Cordially,
Margaret


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Thank you all...I think the transdermal magnesium may be the best option for me.

Funny that oil pulling came up in this thread also, as I just started that yesterday, with sesame oil.  It feels pretty gross, and I have a strong gag reflex, so I'm working up to how long I can swish it around for.  (I should try adding some peppermint oil, that sounds nice.) The first time I could only do it for 4 minutes, but it still turned white and milky.  Today I managed 8 minutes and it was much whiter and thicker.  I'd been having swollen lymph nodes from eating wrong, my corn reaction was flaring up, and it seems to really be helping that already.  Maybe fewer cravings, that helps too.  If it helps my gums that will be great too, they also flared up recently.  


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I'm checking in again.  I am completely sold on transdermal magnesium chloride!  Every night for approx. 3 weeks I have sprayed mag chloride on my body before bed.  At first I sprayed from neck on down to my toes but soon decided I was too sticky and now I spray from the waist on down to my feet.  In the morning I get into the shower and wash it all off.

Meanwhile, at night, I am sleeping so well each and every night that I can hardly believe it.  My sacroiliac and legs are not bothering me at night and I'm perfectly comfortable.  On an occasional middle of the night one of my legs might feel uncomfortable and I will get up and spray again.  In about 10 minutes after climbing back into bed I can actually feel that leg and buttock relax.  Then I easily fall back to sleep.

I have stopped my oral magnesium capsules completely!  I am so happy to have learned about this transdermal method of mag chloride I could shout out the news from the rooftop, but I guess talking about this on the forum is a better way to go, huh?  
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Another option that I heard about at the conference in 05 from an ND was to combine epsom salt (MgSO4) and regular salt NaCl, in a bath.  What he said was that the MG and Cl will combine to form magnesium chloride, and be absorbed through the skin.

I don't always have time for a bath, but when I have, it has seemed to help.  A spray sounds easier.


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NHG,
that is great news!


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Do the sodium and the sulfate combine to make something?  Where are the chemists?

Happy for you NHG!
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Just curious as to what Dr. D has to say about Blood Type Magnesium deficiency or is an across the board deficiency for all Blood Types?
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In the BTD Encyclopedia:

All Blood Groups
Female Balancing

Group B
Allergy control
Chronic illness recovery
Fatigue-fighting
Intestinal health
Menopausal support

Primary action
nerve and digestive health
Needed for bone, protein, and fatty acid formation, making new cells, activating B vitamins, relaxing muscles, and clotting blood.
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Thanks Lola and Mrs. Rodgers!
I believe the first mention of transdermal mag chloride was from you, Mrs. Rodgers and I am eternally grateful to you for drawing my attention to that.  Both books were helpful, too.  My daughter is now reading the books so I'm glad to pass the information along.
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Another option that I heard about at the conference in 05 from an ND was to combine epsom salt (MgSO4) and regular salt NaCl, in a bath. What he said was that the MG and Cl will combine to form magnesium chloride, and be absorbed through the skin.

I don't always have time for a bath, but when I have, it has seemed to help. A spray sounds easier.



Melissa, where can I find out more about *making* magnesium chloride for a bath and does it give the same results even though it's not from a body of salt water--or where are Epsom from ?    Thanks!
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I'm checking in again. I am completely sold on transdermal magnesium chloride! Every night for approx. 3 weeks I have sprayed mag chloride on my body before bed. At first I sprayed from neck on down to my toes but soon decided I was too sticky and now I spray from the waist on down to my feet. In the morning I get into the shower and wash it all off.

Meanwhile, at night, I am sleeping so well each and every night that I can hardly believe it. My sacroiliac and legs are not bothering me at night and I'm perfectly comfortable. On an occasional middle of the night one of my legs might feel uncomfortable and I will get up and spray again. In about 10 minutes after climbing back into bed I can actually feel that leg and buttock relax. Then I easily fall back to sleep.

I have stopped my oral magnesium capsules completely! I am so happy to have learned about this transdermal method of mag chloride I could shout out the news from the rooftop, but I guess talking about this on the forum is a better way to go, huh?



Yay for you!!!

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Melissa, where can I find out more about *making* magnesium chloride for a bath and does it give the same results even though it's not from a body of salt water--or where are Epsom from ? Thanks!


This doesn't completely answer the question, but opens up another option:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnesium_chloride

Nigari, the coagulant used in making tofu, could be used in the solution, as it is primarily magnesium chloride.  Then you wouldn't have the other stuff in there.  



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Thanks Melissa,

Just a brief search for Nigari and I found a pound of it for $1.89.

http://www.simply-natural.biz/Nigari.php

Maybe an inexpensive alternative to the magnesium oil. Especially for baths and foot soaks.  Appears to be the same source as the magnesium oil - sea water.

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How healthy is Magnesium Chloride?

Magnesium as well as chloride have some important functions in keeping the body in shape; young and healthy. Chloride is required for production of gastric acid each day and is also needed to stimulate starch-digesting enzymes. Magnesium rejuvenates and prevents the calcification of our organs and tissues that is characteristic of the old-age related degeneration of our body.

Using other magnesium salts is less advantageous because these have to be converted into chlorides in the body anyway. We may use magnesium as oxide or carbonate but then we need to produce additional hydrochloric acid to absorb them. Many aging individuals, especially with chronic diseases who desperately need more magnesium cannot produce sufficient hydrochloric acid and then cannot absorb the oxide or carbonate. Table salt is sodium chloride, Epsom salt is magnesium sulphate - it is soluble but not well absorbed and acts mainly as a laxative. Chelated magnesium is well absorbed but much more expensive and lacks the beneficial contribution of the chloride ions. Chelated magnesium seem to lack the infection-fighting potential of the magnesium chloride ... as W. Last wrote in his excellent article.





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NH Girl,
You mentioned that you feel sticky from it.  Does it get all over the sheets?  Just how messy is it?
I just got a new bed, new sheets, etc.  Maybe I'll wait and try it when I go up to Loon in a couple of weeks.
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