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Phred
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Hey ya'll.

So, I've been getting a recurring rash in the folds of my abs, elbows, chest and sometimes around the crotch area too.  I'm not overweight at all, in fact I'm quite lean and good muscle tone but I sit in front a PC all day writing video games (best job ever) so my stomach and abs will curl over causing the fold.

I can't quite pin point what causes it exactly.  But it is related to heat, an allergic reaction to some food and stress but not necessairly all 3 at the same time.

During the winter it was pretty minimal for the longest time and even non exsistent.  I've been doing NAET to rid myself of allergies and it has helped ALOT to the point where the rash in my elbow folds are pretty much gone completely but not in the other places although it has minimized.

I went to Florida for work a few weeks back and upon getting there it totally came out!  Red rash, slightly itchy and if you look close you can see tiny scales.  No blisters though.  The food in Orlando SUCKs to say the least... forget organic or following the diet!  When I got back it was still with me to some extent.  It was quite a bit warmer (29 celsius) as opposed to where I left from Ottawa, ON (-5 celsius) but it wasn't really humid that much at all.

My theory is that it could be skin candida flaring up due to the heat or when I sweat but stress can cause allergies to flare up (being a O is awesome eh?) so there is some point where these all meet!

My MD prescribed canesten and a sterodial cream.  I'm not really looking to use that.  I keep myself clean but that doesn't really matter.  I've done lots of candida cleanses internally.  The spit test is ok.  I'm currently trying oil of oregano applied topically to see if I can do something.

Summer is coming and I want to be able to do some tanning but the red rashes will totally mess it up.  Even having my shirt off just looks awful and the itching is no good either!  This wasn't a problem up until a few years ago!

Anybody have any insight here?


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Have you tried some baby powder?

What has your diet been like?  Can you share what you've been eating?  I also notice that you haven't had your secretor status tested.  That's the #1 thing, imho, to make sure you are actually following the right diet for your type.



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Hmm never tried that... might be something to look into.

Diet wise... I'm bang on.  Hardly cheat at all (unless I'm outta town... like Orlando).  I dont have any junk food or highly sweetned stuff.  Any of my treats are not overly sweetneded by any means.


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I like a health food store product called Camocare. Its very soothing and has something in it (forgot ) that is anticandida. Its mild.
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I've had really good experience with tea tree oil applied directly to my skin for erruptions. I don't think I had candida per se, but I did have a pimple that lasted for almost a year on my lower lip that is now completely gone.


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Heallix would be extremely helpful, but I don't know if you can buy it in a store, only online as far as I know, but I could be wrong.  http://www.heallix.com
Also, there's a product called Master Cell Protector from Great American Products. It has grape seed extract and some other goodies in it. It is really good. I am not crazy about the fact that it contains parabens, but the good def outweighs the bad. I had a spot on the side of my finger that was peeling away, layer by layer. It was VERY sore. Two applications of that and it was healed. No kidding.  



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Hi Phred

I'd first check for iron deficiency, underactive thyroid and low stomach acid and treat if necessary.  Obviously iron deficiency is unlikely unless you are a veg O, but could be a thyroid issue and stress tends to zap stomach acid.  Try removing yeast-containing foods and see if that is a trigger for you.  You will also want to limit sugar as much as possible--whether you take it as far as eliminating fruit and fruit juice is up to you.  Good supps to take are B complex, omega 3s, probiotics and citrus seed extract (an antifungal).  Herb wise I've found a tincture combo of tea tree, golden rod and yarrow (subbed for Os in place of goldenseal) works well.  Tea tree oil is also great used topically as Drea pointed out; you can mix it with an aqueous cream to apply on sensitive areas if you like.

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Wow some very good insight here.  Really appreciate this.

I eat plenty of lean red meat so my iron intake is good.  My thyroid has been known to be a little underactive so I make sure I supplement kelp and other seaweeds when I can, have seafood (not as much as I should) and even directly apply iodine on my thyroid.

I do get alot of day to day stress from various factors but I take my L-Tyrosine and work out alot.  It helps that my condo building has a private gym upstairs so I can go when I want.  So if I keep my stress low, my stomach acids should balance out?

Don't really take in much yeast containing foods at all.  My only bread intake is Ezekiel 4:9 by Food for Life which has some yeast but don't really have much of that a week. 3-4 slices at most.

B's come from nutritional yeast and a liquid vitamin supplement that I just discovered.  Take flax for my omegas and supplement with a grape fruit seed extract as my anti-fungal.  I also take in some stinging nettle as well.  There was a small couple of days of die off when I got back on the GSE but it's cool now.

Topically, I've been trying out vitamine E mixed with oil of oregano and it looks like it just might be working!

I also just ordered the secretor test so I will for sure know my status before the months end.  Should be interesting as I'm very much on the fence as to what I am.

So... does internal candida affect external candida?  I also recall reading that our skin has candida on it naturally.


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Stinging nettle root is a potent Candida agglutinating lectin ( yes a good lectin)..very safe for O's and A's
available as UDA Plus from NAP store


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Quoted from Phred
So if I keep my stress low, my stomach acids should balance out?

If your stomach acids are low, you would be having trouble digesting your food (pain, bloating, gas etc.).  You could have low stomach acid for other reasons besides stress, but stress is definitely a factor there (and on your GIT health overall).

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So... does internal candida affect external candida?  I also recall reading that our skin has candida on it naturally.

I've seen a reference to tests on healthy young adults that show candida in about 30-65% of subjects, depending on the area tested.  There is not internal vs external candida, however the candida species cause many different kinds of infections that manifest differently and can show up in any part of the body.  Candida species are opportunistic pathogens, which means that they take advantage of a compromised immune system (surgical patients, HIV patients, recent antibiotic use, burn victims etc.) to spread and infect.  Stress and allergic reactions like you have experienced can also weaken the immune system and give the candida infection a chance to flare up (if it is candida and not a series of allergic reactions).

Hope this answered your question!  Glad the vit E/oregano oil combo is helping.  For candida I would strongly suggest taking a herb mixture internally as well; supplements will be supportive but not what you need to knock this out.  I've learned from experience that candida needs to be hit long and hard; they're cheeky little fungi!


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I would suggest eliminating all artificial sweeteners, as they flare up this area.  I have this problem for eight years and I'm still trying to figure out how to get rid of it permenently, I get breaks in the severity, but than it comes back, or courage wheat products trigger it, but have eliminated them except by accident.  Baby Powder does not help me, it just cakes up and has to be washed away.  I have taken white material, soft and folded in area, that absorbs sweat so it doesn't get worse.  
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I take in zero artificial sweetners... unless you consider stevia artificial which I don't think it is.  I think this is related to allergic flare up that can happen during bouts of stress and the situation gets worse with heat.  


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When dealing with a challenging health issue like candida, you really need to get your secretor status tested.  


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One thing I've noticed is that this rash problem has reduced quite a bit since doing NAET to remove allergic triggers.  I used to get these huge rashes on the fold in my elbow but now it's all but gone.  And the rash on my chest and ab area is much less intense.  Now it's still cool out so once the warm weather gets here THEN I will know.  In the mean time, it will be the anti-candida fight all the way.

So what is the best way to do this?  Like if you take anti-fungals when is the best time to take pro-biotics?  I'm assuming that something like oil of oregano or grapefruit seed extract kills the good flora as well?


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I take probiotics after a meal, and my reasoning is this:  the stomach is usually a very acid environment.  However, after a meal the stomach's pH rises for a time and becomes more alkaline.  This environment gives the probiotics the best chance of survival to reach the intestines, since stomach acid can break them down.  I have also heard from trusted sources that even if you take them on an empty stomach, there are enough probiotics in the dose which will survive the journey that it is still therapeutic.  So if I forget to take them after a meal or aren't home, I just catch up when I can.

As far as I know, oil of oregano and grapefruit seed extract won't interfere with the probiotics, but if you are concerned you could always stagger them.

Forgot to mention earlier that vit C (6,000mg/day) and garlic (2 caps 3x/day) really helped me as far as supplements went.

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Quoted from Phred
Wow some very good insight here.  Really appreciate this.

I eat plenty of lean red meat so my iron intake is good.  My thyroid has been known to be a little underactive so I make sure I supplement kelp and other seaweeds when I can, have seafood (not as much as I should) and even directly apply iodine on my thyroid.

I do get alot of day to day stress from various factors but I take my L-Tyrosine and work out alot.  It helps that my condo building has a private gym upstairs so I can go when I want.  So if I keep my stress low, my stomach acids should balance out?

Don't really take in much yeast containing foods at all.  My only bread intake is Ezekiel 4:9 by Food for Life which has some yeast but don't really have much of that a week. 3-4 slices at most.

B's come from nutritional yeast
and a liquid vitamin supplement that I just discovered.  Take flax for my omegas and supplement with a grape fruit seed extract as my anti-fungal.  I also take in some stinging nettle as well.  There was a small couple of days of die off when I got back on the GSE but it's cool now.

Topically, I've been trying out vitamine E mixed with oil of oregano and it looks like it just might be working!

I also just ordered the secretor test so I will for sure know my status before the months end.  Should be interesting as I'm very much on the fence as to what I am.

So... does internal candida affect external candida?  I also recall reading that our skin has candida on it naturally.


When I eat nutritional yeast for too long a period of time...my sinus' tend to become inflamed and sores become a nuisance inside.  How fresh is yours?  I know when I went to one HFS in Timmins and I used theirs which was almost past the due date (the yeast itself was very finely ground probably from too much handling)  and when I went to another HFS in Sudbury the NY was much better.  Big, big flakes of the stuff and the due date is a long ways away.  When I eliminated it from my diet the sores went away.  I have now brought it back into my diet (the newer dated product) and have not had any problem.  Also, in moderation too.  

I, too, would suggest getting your secretor status checked.  'Stevia' is an avoid for O nonnies.

Good luck with your rash and I hope you find the solution soon.  Summer is on the waaaaayyyy.

Debra



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