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Lola
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http://bms.brown.edu/ihi/
here s the international health institute and the logo isn t IFHI.....
only the one in this Dr s web page......very unethical if you ask me!

she kind of adapted her version of the IFHI logo to her advantage!  wow!

click on her IFHI logo and you get this
http://www.aanc.net/
very misleading!



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I agree with Lola, and I would ask her about it. It is very misleading, especially since IfHI and aanc don't even have the same letters.


It is not my responsibility to convince anyone of anything.
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No, she is the real thing:

http://www.dadamo.com/registry/csvread.pl?ID=B-500

I think her web designer just got the links and the logos mixed up.

I've met Rose, she is very nice.


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Well then I would still mention to her that the links are messed up.


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that s good to know!


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I keep thinking I'm a nonnie, too, but too cheap to do the test & don't like dealing with the mails!
Someday, these tests need to be available at health food stores.  One could pay for them there, take them home, & then mail in the sample.  Can that be so hard to do?

I can buy the NAP Saliva Secretor tests at some local HFS or supplement stores. Have you checked with your local stores to see if they carry NAP products?



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Yes, she is super nice!  Thanks for the info about the links, I'll pass it on, if I can remember   .
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Lyrica, congrats on getting your secretor results back..........one less thing to 'worry' about eh?  
Just wanted to mention.........from what I understand, hypoglycemia is a symptom of adrenal issues and if I weren't so tired, I'd check the thyroid thing too, but betting it is a symptom of adrenals also.  The best thing you can do for yourself is address your adrenal issues..........hard.   So sorry to say, I speak from experience.    Also, for adrenals, have 1/2-1 t.  sea salt w/ at least 8-10 oz of at least room temp water in the morning. There is some info here: http://www.drlam.com/A3R_brief_in_doc_format/adrenal_fatigue.cfm                  It is a great article, long.........but well worth the read.  Adrenal Fatigue: the 21st Century Stress Syndrome is a great book...........http://www.adrenalfatigue.org/products/adrenal_fatigue.php              I'm sure you can get it other places on the web and also at some book stores. I got mine at Borders.      There's a thread "Lemon/Salt Water and BM's" or something close to that..........lots of good info there............ I searched for this thread for a while, couldn't find it.........must get to bed, sorry. Do try to find it or maybe someone will know where it is and post.
 Jane, you mentioned by the new standards, Lyrica's TSH is high. Can you point me to some info I can read on that. I remembered that the 'acceptable' TSH levels for this had been adjusted somewhat recently, but have never found the info on it. I would really be interested in reading it. Thanks.  



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I just got the results back from my TSH and it is 1.32 out of a range of 0.465 to 4.68. The doctor I saw yesterday (internal med) said that the best numbers for TSH are between 1 and 2, which is why mine is considered good.


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Thank you for all the suggestions, italybound!  It really makes sense that hypoglycemia, thyroid, and adrenals are all very closely related.  I had a very interesting idea pop into my head that maybe some of you could shed a little light on.  Up to the age of 11 I never had any anxiety about public speaking.  I was the best public speaker in my class and did lots of theater.  Suddenly toward the end of 6th grade, I started to have horrible anxiety about public speaking and if I had to read something aloud in class, my throat would completely close up, my vision would get really blurry and I would have a hard time reading it at all.  And this still continues today, though not to that extent.  It mostly occurs when I have to read something or say something specific.  I have no problem raising my hand and talking, for example.  Anyway, I realized that this started right around the time I got my first period.  Since the adrenals are basically dealing with hormones and that was the time when my hormones started to their full extent, is it possible that it is my adrenals and thyroid that are causing this anxiety?  I don't know too much about the biology of it all, but this idea just popped into my head.  
So, yes, my TSH being around 4 is pretty high.  Hopefully all the stuff I am taking is helping.  Well, actually I am fairly certain it is.  I feel a bit less tired (and my mom says that I seem more relaxed, though I can't tell that much).

-Lyrica
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Lyrica, if you dont mind my asking, how was life at home as a child? Was there alot of turmoil? An absent parent? I just ask because I believe my adrenal issues started as a child. Very tumultuous childhood, very abusive father.
If you don't mind my mentioning it again, please add at least the salt water to your morning routine.  The added fresh lemon would be very helpful also, but the salt part of it is really important w/ the adrenal issues.  
Did a quick search for hormones and anxiety. At a quick skim, this looks like a good article. I need to sit and read the whole thing myself.
http://panicdisorder.about.com/od/underlyingcauses/a/irene.htm
Here are some other articles/sites/info:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=hormones+and+anxiety&btnG=Google+Search



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Oh, no, I don't mind you asking at all!  Actually, my life as a child was absolutely wonderful.  My parents were always (and still are) extremely supportive, fun, kind, understanding and I always felt so warm and wonderful and comforted at home with my parents.  Thank you for reinforcing the salt water.  I really need to try it and I will if I can remember.  Maybe I should write myself a note.
Those articles are really great (I read the beginning of them, but I really should read the whole thing).  It sounds like the anxiety really could be caused by all the hormonal issues.

-Lyrica
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Oh, no, I don't mind you asking at all!  Actually, my life as a child was absolutely wonderful.  My parents were always (and still are) extremely supportive, fun, kind, understanding and I always felt so warm and wonderful and comforted at home with my parents.  Thank you for reinforcing the salt water.  I really need to try it and I will if I can remember.  Maybe I should write myself a note.
Those articles are really great (I read the beginning of them, but I really should read the whole thing).  It sounds like the anxiety really could be caused by all the hormonal issues.-Lyrica


How happy to hear you had a wonderful childhood and still have supportive parents.  Pretty rare in this day and age, sad to say.
Yes, maybe putting a note somewhere where you will be sure to see it each morning, until it just becomes habit will help w/ the salt water.  
I just read a good article on why distilled water is better than all others. It said in a nutshell that all other waters have inorganic minerals which our bodies cant use. If we cant eliminate them, they lodge in all kinds of places in our bodies causing tons of issues. It says the fact that the rains fall w/ the inorganic minerals is good because the plants/soils need it for growing. The plants turn the inorganic to organic in it's growing process (I know I'm not saying this right but it's the gist) and as organic minerals, we can consume and properly assimilate them. I know there has been some controversy over distilled water but I do think I'm going to give it a try for a while.
 I have no doubt that anxiety could be caused by hormone imbalance, as well as avoid foods. I see that in myself.           However, knowledge is power and the more attention we pay to how foods, etc   affect us, the healthier we will be.  



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The thing about seltzer water is...I've never tried it.  In fact, I have never had any carbonated substance.  Not even a soda--ever.  So, maybe I'd be able to deal with the bubbles, but I don't know.  I'll at least really try to do the salt water thing.  But I wish I could drink seltzer water because what you're saying makes sense.
I've been soooo good about not eating avoids (but I know I haven't been eating the right amount of each group of foods) although I think not eating avoids is at least the major thing, right?
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The thing about seltzer water is...I've never tried it.  I'll at least really try to do the salt water thing.  But I wish I could drink seltzer water because what you're saying makes sense.I've been soooo good about not eating avoids (but I know I haven't been eating the right amount of each group of foods) although I think not eating avoids is at least the major thing, right?


I think you're saying here that you know seltzer water is an avoid   ......am I right?   You could just pretend the salt water has bubbles in it.
And yes, you're correct, the not eating the avoids is the major thing. It takes a little planning to eat the correct amount from each food group.........or it would for me anyway.  



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I think you're better off without the bubbles, Lyrica, being the A that you are!  



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How wonderful that you are so young & understand the BTD so well & have had such a good diet!
I personally am not that conscientious about amounts suggested in the books.  They are a good guideline, but if you crave a little more protein or fat ot carbs, don't panic.
As an O, it suggests a certain amount of oil per week.  Sometimes I have that much in a day!  (Usually olive oil, of course!) But I don't panic,  I am of Mediterranean nationality which I assume needs more oil, & have a voracious O appetite w/ low blood sugar.  Sometimes the oil is what controls all that!!
Keep up the good work!
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For some reason as I read your post, italybound, I saw the word distilled and without thinking, thought you were referring to bubbily water.  Silly little me!
Anyway, I've got it all straight in my mind now and I am very happy that seltzer water is an avoid so I never have to drink it!  
It is very good to know that not everyone is amazingly good with the amounts of each food.  I tend to eat a lot more yogurt than is reccomended, so I guess that's okay, as long as I'm not eating, say, 4 cups a day!
Thank you so much, Mrs T O+!  Whenever I think about eating something that would be horrible for me, I just think of my Grampa, who is 94 and so healthy.  He has minor heart problems, but that's really it.  He does exercises every day and eats so well (not the BTD, but just a generally healthy diet).  He is the only other type A in my family, so maybe that means I'll get to live as old as him.  
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For some reason as I read your post, italybound, I saw the word distilled  


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I just think of my Grampa, who is 94 and so healthy.  He has minor heart problems, but that's really it.  


My grandma lived to be a month shy of 97. She lived on her own until she was 95. I believe the difference is............they prob ate a teeny tiny fraction of all the processed foods most people eat today. I know when my g'pa was alive he raised all their veggies and I know she still ate good after he passed on. What kinds of food we consume.......once again, makes all the difference.  




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A lot of the older generations were much more naturally active out of doors in all kinds of weather, breathing cleaner air than most of us have access to, and drinking cleaner water.

Lyrica,
I also eat more yogurt than is recommended.  I justify it to myself since I don't drink milk and eat cheese only a few times a year as a special treat.  Most of us make our own concessions based on what our own bodies are healthy with.



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