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Lyrica
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I just went to a wonderful nutritionist today and I just want to see if anyone has taken any of the herbs that she had asked me to take.  She is sure I have Thyroid, Adrenal and Hypoglycemia problems from looking at my blood work, so she has told me to take:
Adaptocrine (for Adrenals)
Proglyco-SP (for Hypoglycemia)
L-phenalaynin (spelling?-for stress/anxiety)
5HTP (also for anxiety)
HCL
Hemevite (Iron)
Apex K9 or K12 for Thyroid
and some digestive enzymes, probiotics and a multivitamin.  

Most of this she wants me to get from a brand called Apex.  I just want to know if anyone has tried any of these or if you have any ideas or comments.  I will probably order them tonight or tomorrow morning.  I also sent in my secretor test today and am very excited!  Thank you all!!

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is she bt certified, or does she take individuality as well as physiology into account?


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Quoted from Lyrica
I just went to a wonderful nutritionist today and I just want to see if anyone has taken any of the herbs that she had asked me to take.  She is sure I have Thyroid, Adrenal and Hypoglycemia problems from looking at my blood work, so she has told me to take:
Adaptocrine (for Adrenals)
Proglyco-SP (for Hypoglycemia)
L-phenalaynin (spelling?-for stress/anxiety)
5HTP (also for anxiety)
HCL
Hemevite (Iron)
Apex K9 or K12 for Thyroid
and some digestive enzymes, probiotics and a multivitamin.  

Most of this she wants me to get from a brand called Apex.  I just want to know if anyone has tried any of these or if you have any ideas or comments.  I will probably order them tonight or tomorrow morning.  I also sent in my secretor test today and am very excited!  Thank you all!!


What are her certifications?

Does she recommend these brands because she sells them herself?

I question someone recommending so many products at once.  My herbalist will only recommend, at the most five different supplements at once.  Your consultant is recommending you take ten different items.

Look at Dr. D's protocols.  There are at times, not even five items in a protocol, and he only recommends to try one or two in combination.

Before you decide to take anything (besides Dr. D's blood type specific formulas), consider waiting for your secretor test results to come back.

ETA:  How is she so certain you have these conditions?  Did she perform any blood tests?


Knowledge is power.  SWAMI gives you the diet that will unlock the key to better health, and it's all based on your unique individuality.

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You may want to pursue and complete the Supplement Determinator and compare the results with the supplements recommended from the nutritionist and this online computer program.  

You can then check for invidualized ingredients for the supplements:
http://www.dadamo.com/ingrediator/determinator.htm

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I wouldn't go for the phenylalanin.....better go for Inositol or l'theanine.....sorry.....and  in case of annemia, just take an ironsuppst. which is not too high because your body has to accept it or just on aspartatebasic.

Can't say anything about the other stuffs, because I don't know em good luck to you

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Floradix Floravite for iron sup.....


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L-phenalaynin (spelling?-for stress/anxiety)
5HTP (also for anxiety)

NAP' Cortiguard is used for stress, anxiety; and try incorporating alternate nostril breathing and yoga sessions a few times weekly.

Hemevite (Iron)

Blackstrap molasses is a rich, whole foods source--no supplements needed.


Alia



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try to always have molassas and dates around, plus the leafy greens
Try Floradix Floravite.
To metabolize iron it is critical to have some acid,  lemon
+ molasses is very good ... especially for A's ... who have a natural low-
acidity.


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Look at Dr. D's protocols.  There are at times, not even five items in a protocol, and he only recommends to try one or two in combination.


Gosh... I've been wondering all this time how many of the items in a protocol to take at one time... thanks for this info.!  
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Gosh... I've been wondering all this time how many of the items in a protocol to take at one time... thanks for this info.!  


Here is where Dr. D talks about how to use the protocols.


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Lyrica
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Thank you all so much for your responses.

Lola: I don't think she is bt certified.  She herself follows the blood type diet, but she wasn't looking at the supplements from that perspective.  She definitely took individuality into account.  I'll look into the Floradix Floravite and see how it's different from the Hemevite.

KimonoKat: It did seem like a lot to me, too.  I mentioned that to my mom and she said that I probably won't need to take all of them.  I would like to wait until I get my secretor test back, also, but in the meantime, I am still very tired all day and would love to get help with that.  I got my blood taken (basically just to find out my blood type and also it had been a long time since I had gotten it taken, sort of a normal checkup thing).  Here is what she found in the bloodwork:
High triglycerides (158 )
Low HDL (50)
Very Low Iron (57)
High Red Blood Cells (5.09)
High Total Protein (7.9)
High TSH (4.020)
My LDH is in the normal range, but she said this is because something else threw it off.  I don't remember exactly.

Anyway, I hope this is not total gibberish.
I am pretty sure that she doesn't make a profit off of the supplements.

Alia Vo:  Thank you for that link!  I took it, but it just made me more confused!  It is so hard to know what to follow.  All the supplements he reccomended sounded great, but it is hard for me to tell what I could take instead of what the nutritionist reccomended.  Dates are really high in sugar, which I really don't do too well on.  It kicks my hypoglycemia into full gear.  I don't know about molasses, but I'll look into it.

Tomatilla: I will definitely look into the Inositol and l'theanine.  What is bad about the phenylalanin?  Do you think the Hemevite is too strong?

All in all, I have always known that I am Hypoglycemic and I am pretty sure I have Thyroid and Adrenal problems and I am mildly anemic.  Also, I am a vegetarian, so I want to supplement B vitamins so that I get enough.  I am so thrilled about the possibility of feeling better (energy, ability to get up in the morning, lower stress about trivial things etc.) but it is just so confusing with so many different opinions!  I guess I wish there was an easy answer to all of this.

Also, here is the website of my nutritionist: http://www.wellnesswithrose.com/

-Lyrica

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thanks for the link!

she surely glows!!!


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Quoted from lola
thanks for the link!

she surely glows!!!


That's good I hope!

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she seems to be doing the right thing!


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By the new standards, that TSH is high.  You may need some thyroid meds.  That would certainly account for being tired and perhaps a lot of the other symptoms too.  It's best to have your TSH below 3.
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Okay, I think I figured it out!
Out of all the stuff she told me to take, the only ones that are long term are the:
Digestive enzymes, Probiotics, Extend Core, B-plex, and Omega-3 (flax oil)

All the rest (Adaptocrine, Proglyco-SP, L-phenalaynin, 5-HTP, HCL, Hemevite, Thyroxil, Thyro-CNV) would be very short term, perhaps one month or so just to get me "out of the woods" as my mom says.

From all your suggestions, I think I'm going to replace the Extend Core with The PolyVITE for type A and replace the L-phenalaynin and 5-HTP with Cortiguard and I will also try the nostril-breathing and yoga.

Thank you all so much again for all your ideas and support!

-Lyrica
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Lyrica, instead of going against anxiety, which is completely normal when being hypoclycemic, phenylalanin is ok for O's but I wouldn't recommend it for A's until you have been tested that you don't have any kind of phenylketunury,,,,and some people might be prone for that, even when it might be in milder form . And sorry this aminoacid is taken against hunger attacs but the other form consists only from Alanine and here it is taken in cases of hypoclycemy, yes here I can agree.

And something immensly important in such cases, please go for 6 meals daily to get out of your hypo-
glycemic attacs.....regular eatinghabits ere the keyword here
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Thank you, Tomatilla!  I think just to be safe, that I will not take the phenylalanin, but just take the Cortiguard instead because it seems to serve the same purpose, right?  And also, it's recommended for type A's, so that's good.  Oh, I definitely eat at least 6 meals per day.  They're not really meals, but I'll eat just a bunch of little snacks throughout the day.  Like, I'll have a handful of peanuts and an apple and like an hour later I'll have a salad and some bread, just for example.

-Lyrica
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I think you are on the right track.  Sometimes, it just takes baby steps.  But I also think that being a Type A with these health challenges, it's absolutey essential that you get your secretor status tested.  If you turn out to be a nonnie, it may not be in your best interest (health wise) to be totally vegetarian.

Sending you an energy prayer, and the hopes that you keep in touch and let us know how you are progressing.



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Lyrica
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KimonoKat, I sent in my secretor test a few days ago and am anxiously awaiting my results.  My guess is that I am a Secretor because I do not do well on bananas.  Of course, I guess it is possible that I'm a nonnie and I am just so excited to find out, either way.  Hopefully I am a secretor so that being vegetarian is okay with my body.  Thank you for all the positive energy!  I will definitely stick around and post updates about how everything's going.  
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Well, if you are a nonnie, Isa will be happy to have more royals among us lol!  


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And if I'm a nonnie, that will certainly make me feel better, knowing that I'll be a royal!  
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Lyrica-what a musical name!
I noticed that your nutritionist was an IFHI.  Isn't that Dr. D's program?  So she must be OK.
I keep thinking I'm a nonnie, too, but too cheap to do the test & don't like dealing with the mails!
Someday, these tests need to be available at health food stores.  One could pay for them there, take them home, & then mail in the sample.  Can that be so hard to do?
S S & L,
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That would make it much easier, Mrs. T O+!  I don't know what IFHI is, but that's awesome if it's Dr. D's program.
I just got my results and found out that I'm a Secretor!  That's what I thought all along with my reactions to bananas.  I am also happy because I am a vegetarian and type A secretors do just fine, even thrive on a vegetarian diet.  If I had been a nonnie, as others have said, meat might be helpful in my diet.  So, YAY!  I am super happy .
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International Health Institute is what it says.....
Hifi stands for Institute for human individuality.......

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The Institute for Human Individuality (If) a 501c3 under Southwest College of Naturopathic Medicine, has as its prime goal the fostering of research in the in the expanding area of human nutrigenomics.

http://www.dadamo.com/ifhi/2005/whoifhi.htm

why would anyone change the name, or make it appear different?


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