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joedee
Tuesday, March 27, 2007, 5:46pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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St. John's Wort is an avoid for O's, and interestingly didn't work anyway, but after a year of following the BTD there are still mild bouts of depression.  Any other homeopathic choices out there??

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St. John's Wort is an avoid for O's, and interestingly didn't work anyway, but after a year of following the BTD there are still mild bouts of depression.  Any other homeopathic choices out there??


Welcome joedee!  Are you asking about depression for yourself (an A) or for a loved one who is Type O?

Have you looked at Dr. D's Protocols?  I'm thinking specifically the Cognitive Function

How to use the protocols

I think there is a depression thread in the Encyclopedia Forum...let me go find it.  And, I'll probably move this thread there, too.

There are several threads dealing with depression:

Type O's & St. John's Wort.
Depression & Dr. D's Blog today
PMS  related depression

Depression is also mentioned in several other threads on candida, fatigue, etc.

Hope this helps!


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Rhodiola is so good for type O, in a lot of ways, and is highly effective for depression also!



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Rhodiola is so good for type O, in a lot of ways, and is highly effective for depression also!


And Rhodiola is in the Catechol that NAP makes!  


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and some Sam-e is ok too
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I encourage your husband to try the Supplement Determinator, this program may prove useful in factoring his supplemental needs based on his present state of health:
http://www.dadamo.com/ingrediator/determinator.htm

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how s your exercise doing?
best supplement there is for Os!


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how s your exercise doing?
best supplement there is for Os!


Yeppers.

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Thank you for all the information. He gets a good amount of exercise and notices the difference in his mood at the time he is exercising. When he is feeling low he will go walk, or to the gym. I read the threads from Kimonokat (thank you- I still have trouble doing my own searches on this site), and the replys from others and will purchase the rhodiola for him to try.  I told him about the ABSOLUTELY no wheat and he winced... he will still have occasional toast if we have breakfast out, or a tortilla wrap if he has lunch out. I will pay closer attention to his mood and maybe can point out if there is a direct correlation to those wheat days.  

thanks again!!!

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Particularly based on his occasional wheat consumption, I would add Deflect O to his supplementation list.


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Ben_Lamers
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a detox works great for everybody i know thats tried it...has he tried a detox yet? some are easy, some are hard, some are long and some are short. i think http://www.drnatura.com and search for Colonix is the best... its long...realtively..like 2 to 3 months which can be hard... but it is definately superior to any medicine i think that can be got from anybody short of God! its good...

depending on what his body chemistry is...he could have 10x amt of cravings on the detox than he does now for wheat. this is nothing to worry about and just means everything is going as planned..craving will go away. it only seems like it lasts forever..

i think its great he goes for walks! i like walking a lot so does my mom.

is his attitude that he needs wheat to live and be balanced? i remember i couldnt possibly grasp the concept of no wheat after seeing the food pyramid by the government my whole life. but if he needs any reassurance u can tell him i dont eat any wheat but i do try to eat the Manna bread occasionly. it works for me. on the contrary...eating wheat doesnt. however i dont bother with any grains at all hardly i dont see anything wrong with eating the neutral or more healthy grains...what is it sprouted grain? anyway im sure u can introduce alternatives.
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hi Ben-
The wheat is a matter of convenience- can't get 100% rye bread at waffle house... he doesn't crave wheat at all, just wants what is convenient sometimes.  He has switched to tortillas instead of rolls for sandwiches, which is better... but still can't give up the ease of eating.  if there were other options- he'd avoid wheat completely.  I am SURE he wouldn't do a detox. It was a challenge to get him to just try the BTD. He sees and feels the benefits to eating like this, but I've tried to get him to do a detox before and he wouldn't.

thanks for the support though. this has been really helpful.
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Quoted from Ben_Lamers
a detox works great for everybody i know thats tried it...has he tried a detox yet? some are easy, some are hard, some are long and some are short. i think http://www.drnatura.com and search for Colonix is the best... its long...realtively..like 2 to 3 months which can be hard... but it is definately superior to any medicine i think that can be got from anybody short of God! its good...


I don't think some of the ingredients in this "drnatura" are good for O's... anybody have any comments on this?

INGREDIENTS - Colonix Intestinal Cleanse

Psyllium Husks
Flax Seed
Fennel Seed
Licorice Root
Aloe Vera
Grapefruit Pectin
Papaya Fruit
Slippery Elm Bark
Marshmallow Root
Rhubarb Root
Alfalfa

INGREDIENTS - Paranil
Anti-Parasite Support

Black Walnut Hulls
Wormwood Powder
Pau D'Arco Powder
Pumpkin Seed
Clove Bud Powder
Male Fern Root Powder
Grapefruit Seed Extract
False Unicorn Root
Myrrh Gum
Garlic Bulb Powder
Hyssop Leaf
Turmeric Root
Gentian Root
Peppermint Leaf Powder
Fenugreek Seed Powder
Elecampane Plant
Prickley Ash Bark Powder
Yellow Dock Powder
Guar Gum
Peppermint Leaf
Uva Ursi Leaf

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Eat bananas - I read it's good for depression....  I really think it helps me.  

One of the things I have noticed is the downs of caffeine and downs of sugar can make a difference for me.  Especially if I have eatten alot of chocolate I feel great for a while then I in the dumps.  Limit the goodies that includes the sodas - I drink green tea but noticed that I can only really have 1 cup a day max two due to the caffeine.  

He will wine about the bread like I did - I only have when it's homemade and I have cut my wraps out for salads.  Got to take baby steps... Bread really puts on the pounds for me.  I gain everytime I eat it.






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I eat plenty of bananas, dosen't do much.  Don't drink caffine anymore except for green tea and I try to use one tea bag all day.  I drink the kind with the brown toasted rice in it... yummy!

And I certainly could clean up my diet a bit more.  I'm compliant but it comes in spurts.  I think that really messes up my poor brain chemistry like a yo yo... back and forth and never gaining any headway toward true balance.
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I don't think some of the ingredients in this "drnatura" are good for O's... anybody have any comments on this?

INGREDIENTS - Colonix Intestinal Cleanse

Psyllium Husks
Flax Seed
Fennel Seed
Licorice Root
Aloe Vera
Grapefruit Pectin
Papaya Fruit
Slippery Elm Bark
Marshmallow Root
Rhubarb Root
Alfalfa

INGREDIENTS - Paranil
Anti-Parasite Support

Black Walnut Hulls
Wormwood Powder
Pau D'Arco Powder
Pumpkin Seed
Clove Bud Powder
Male Fern Root Powder
Grapefruit Seed Extract
False Unicorn Root
Myrrh Gum
Garlic Bulb Powder
Hyssop Leaf
Turmeric Root
Gentian Root
Peppermint Leaf Powder
Fenugreek Seed Powder
Elecampane Plant
Prickley Ash Bark Powder
Yellow Dock Powder
Guar Gum
Peppermint Leaf
Uva Ursi Leaf



Offhand; the Psyllium, Aloe, Rhubarb and Alfalfa, as well as the Guar are avoids for O. Someone will hopefully double check my memory and correct errors/omissions.
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Good eye, Lloyd!  

And to all:  Avoids are an easy way to mess up ones' mental health.  Wheat, especially seems to bring on depression.



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Ya wheat does a number on me but fourtunatly up here in Canada (Ottawa specifically) there are 4 good health food stores downtown and quite a few good cafes with spelt alternatives.

Have you checked out the food for life?  They have a good ezekiel bread!

http://www.foodforlife.com/


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Ezekial Bread is good if you read the ingredients and still avoid those avoids.

Unfortunately I had to discontinue the Ezekial bread because of the gluten.  Even after staying away from wheat for years, I discovered that any gluten triggers depression (among other things!).



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I've eaten Food For Life's Eziekel bread for years.  Love it.  

But I try not to indulge too much as I'm still trying to discover triggers, etc.
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I just read about depression and type O, wow
I decided to go off of anti-depressents and am struggling with withdrawals, I felt like I couldnt do it, but after reading this I am so encouraged
Has any one else dropped anti-depressents and if so could you share your experience with me
thanks
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I just read about depression and type O, wow
I decided to go off of anti-depressents and am struggling with withdrawals, I felt like I couldnt do it, but after reading this I am so encouraged
Has any one else dropped anti-depressents and if so could you share your experience with me
thanks


Welcome to the forum sherry!

Why not check into your member center (the link is located at the top right of the page), scroll down until you find Avatar settings, and pick out a beautiful BTD shield avatar.  This makes it much easier for the other members to answer your questions; no one has to ask you each time you post a question.

And, if you like, you can add a message or more information below your shield, by going to the Profile Information section in the Member Center and typing in the Personal Message box.  Many members add their location, their Rh+/-, MN blood typing information or just something that’s special to them.

I don't have any personal experience with getting off of anti-depressants. But I would recommend for Type O's either L-Tyrosine, Rhodiola, or Dr. D's Cachecol (sp?) that have already been suggested on this thread.  And, exercise, exercise, exercise!


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I started using the Anti-Stress protocol, and the supplements really help a lot.  Rhodiola 3 x daily, and L-tyrosine twice a day (which another naturopath suggests taking with 50 mg B-6 and 100 mg Vit. C for better absorption).  At first I was very skeptical: I've tried anti-stress regimens before, to little or no positive effect; but this time have been pleasantly surprised to find I actually do feel better - like I can cope with everyday pressures.  No longer feeling quite so overwhelmed.  It's a blessed relief.

Also, consider sleeping patterns.  When you don't sleep you don't function as well.  I've started taking Valerian at night before bed, and it has helped a lot.  
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Sherry,
I went off anti-depressants and caffeine at the same time in January 2005 when I began taking Clomid to get pregnant. Amazingly enough, I have done rather well without the meds.  I am surprised at how well, because my depression was chemical and I was told that I'd probably be on medication the rest of my life.  I've been dealt some pretty nasty blows in the last two and a half years, and I've struggled a little bit, but have kept out of any funk for any length of time.  I think part of that is exercise too.  I started at Curves in September 2005 and really felt 100 times better.  

As far as diet, the Ezekiel bread would be great if it wasn't made with yeast.  Yeast causes me more problems than wheat does.  Joedee, have your husband switch to yeast free spelt bread. It is in the freezer of the organic section at Kroger.  I'm not crazy about spelt pasta. Haven't found one I like yet.  I have been buying rice noodles from the asian section of the store instead.  I know corn is an avoid, but when I have to eat a tortilla, I eat corn rather than wheat.  It sits with me much better than the wheat tortilla.  I don't think there's much at the Waffle House that Os are supposed to eat anyway.  Probably best to avoid!
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I started using the Anti-Stress protocol, and the supplements really help a lot.  Rhodiola 3 x daily, and L-tyrosine twice a day (which another naturopath suggests taking with 50 mg B-6 and 100 mg Vit. C for better absorption).   



Where can I read about the anti-stress protocol for Os?
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