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italybound
Friday, March 2, 2007, 5:44pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Ahh nothing like getting a little hosed on wine as your preparing dinner!  


, have you ever seen the little 'poem' where the gal is preparing a dish and as she drinks more and more, she gets the ingred mixed up. It's pretty funny.

trish44, sometimes if you just type in the symptoms into google, it'll pull things that it could be for you. leave out words like and , but,  for, of, etc.



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Please be careful when taking too much magnesium over a long periods of time.

1) Magnesium can cause serious health problems including nausea, vomiting, severely lowered
blood pressure, slowed heart rate, deficiencies of other minerals, confusion, coma, and even death.
More common side effects from magnesium include upset stomach and diarrhea.

2) Magnesium competes with calcium for absorption and can cause a calcium deficiency if calcium intake levels are already low.

I have to agree with this 'cause I've taken chlorophylle practically on daily basis for quite a few years and my blood pressure
was indeed very low 85/59 some days !!
however; it never hit me that it might be the amount of magnesium in the chlorophylle until one day about a couple years ago I just collapsed suddenly one morning and the ambulance had to be called ... a few weeks later when I spoke to a naturopath about it, she told me to stop taking chlorophylle immediately and I did and my blood pressure went back to normal after a while ...
PLEASE be very careful people, since anything over a period of time can become dangerous and even fatal ...


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Very good point!

Hence why I take a magnesium formula that is perfectly balanced with calcium and vitamin D.  


It's always better after the second iteration.

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Hence why I take a magnesium formula that is perfectly balanced with calcium and vitamin D.  



Excellent; however even at that,  u will need periodic breaks.


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I can't!  If I do.. my muscles tighten WAY up.... hence the purpose of my starting this thread... I have to find out WHY thats happening and what to do about it.


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I can't!  If I do.. my muscles tighten WAY up.... hence the purpose of my starting this thread... I have to find out WHY thats happening and what to do about it.


I'm truly sorry to hear that ...  and by no means am I an expert; I'm just repeating what a Naturopath told me a couple years ago ...
In the end we're all individual with different needs and I hope this works out for u since it seems to help !!


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Incidentally.. I went to see my naturopath about this... he was the one that introduced me to the particular formula I'm taking.  When I told him 6 months later that I was still on it and couldn't get off it... he wasn't sure why but told me to just stay on it until I no longer needed it!


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Incidentally.. I went to see my naturopath about this... he was the one that introduced me to the particular formula I'm taking.  When I told him 6 months later that I was still on it and couldn't get off it... he wasn't sure why but told me to just stay on it until I no longer needed it!


Well there u go !!
He's the professional afterall  
I agree though that we should always get to the bottom of things and NOT use supplements or anything else as bandaids ...


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I've been following this thread trying to learn something about my situation and finally I learned (by experience) what was happening to me....indigestion and diarrhea for weeks!!!!  See my other thread, "reversing cal and mag" .....
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I've done some research and come up with a couple of things:

When looking up the product that Phred uses (Mag Cal Plus - 90 Tablets - Seroyal / Genestra), the description contains the following information, which I think is important:

"Magnesium enhances calcium absorption, ensures deposition in skeletal tissue and helps to support the nervous system through proper muscle relaxation and nerve conduction. Muscle cramping may be caused by a high level of calcium molecules in the muscle. Magnesium acts in conjunction with other cellular mechanisms to remove excess calcium from muscle and restore it to a more relaxed state."

Maybe we have a high level of calcium in our muscles and not enough magnesium to remove the excess?

Then, we should look into foods that supply these minerals and check our diets.  Dr. Carolyn Dean has a new book on this subject as well as Mark Sircus.

Dr. Dean's book:
http://www.amazon.com/Miracle-.....?ie=UTF8&s=books

Mark Sircus' book:
http://www.phaelos.com/transdermal.html

Using magesium transdermally does not effect the G.I. tract and is thought to raise DHEA levels, whereas taking it orally does not have this effect. Magnesium oil can be purchased here:  http://www.health-and-wisdom.com/magnesium.htm




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Hmmm... so maybe taking a highly absorbably magesium powder for a bit will balance this all out?


It's always better after the second iteration.

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and epsom salt baths!!! (magnesium)
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I too get leg cramps and constipation if I don't take a 1:1 ratio of cal: mag. I read somewhere that the need for mag. increases as you get older and someone even suggested a 1:2 ratio, a reversal of the usual 1:2 recommendation. But since cal and mag have a direct counterbalancing relationship (if that's the right term used re. the mineral wheel) , if you increase one you may have to increase the other; otherwise I wonder if one might cause the other to come out of solution? cal can wreck havoc on joints when it comes out of solution; and too much cal can cause leg cramps and constipation I believe. I take a Solaray mag/ pot. supplement.

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