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Whimsical
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maybe I'll just have to be patient a little while longer and pray that all this burping STOPS all together with this BTD !!


My first recommendation is that you see a professional, preferably an ND, but TCM could also be very helpful.  Digestion is complex and while you can get great results treating yourself, you will always be limited in what you can achieve.  Even though I have done lots of my own research and am now in naturopathic college, I could not have made the progress I have at this point without a professional.

Some simple suggestions to try:
1. Take a high quality probiotic consistently.  You could also try taking B friendly digestive enzymes, but don't expect to rely on these forever, you should aim to get your digestive system healthy enough to operate independently.  If you take enzymes long-term, your body will downregulate it's own production of them (the body is efficient!) and then you won't be able to do without them.

2. Find out your secretor status.  This could make a huge difference!  

3. Food combining.  Not necessarily useful if you have entirely healthy digestion, but to me it doesn't seem like you do.  I don't food combine much anymore, but when I first started the diet I did for awhile and it helped resolve a lot of bloating and gas problems I had.  Once my system worked better, I didn't need to anymore.  Here is a good site.

4. Explore some of the protocols available, depending on your symptoms.  



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Tuesday, February 27, 2007, 4:28am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I am not cognizant of your current health challenges, but if you stay highly compliant on this lifestyle and put an emphasis on liver toning and detoxification foods, you will start to feel better.  
Alia


I really hope so !!


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There are several liver and detoxification supplements available through NAP.  You may want to try The Supplement Determinator to discover what is recommended to you:
http://www.dadamo.com/ingrediator/determinator.htmAlia

Thank-u  


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My first recommendation is that you see a professional, preferably an ND, but TCM could also be very helpful.  Digestion is complex and while you can get great results treating yourself, you will always be limited in what you can achieve.  Even though I have done lots of my own research and am now in naturopathic college, I could not have made the progress I have at this point without a professional.

Some simple suggestions to try:
1. Take a high quality probiotic consistently.  You could also try taking B friendly digestive enzymes, but don't expect to rely on these forever, you should aim to get your digestive system healthy enough to operate independently.  If you take enzymes long-term, your body will downregulate it's own production of them (the body is efficient!) and then you won't be able to do without them.

2. Find out your secretor status.  This could make a huge difference!  

3. Food combining.  Not necessarily useful if you have entirely healthy digestion, but to me it doesn't seem like you do.  I don't food combine much anymore, but when I first started the diet I did for awhile and it helped resolve a lot of bloating and gas problems I had.  Once my system worked better, I didn't need to anymore.  Here is a good site.

4. Explore some of the protocols available, depending on your symptoms.  



A great big thank-u for that site  

I really appreciate u taking the time to give me such pertinent advice.

I do plan to see a Naturopath next month' cause all this burping is definately NOT normal and I'm worried !!


What did u mean by ND ?
TCM ?

Thank-u in advance Whimsical  


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No problem,

ND=Naturopathic Doctor
TCM=Traditional Chinese Medicine


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Not really...  That is just normal fat digestion and will not flush stones out of the gall bladder.

The way the flush works is that you first fast without fat for a couple of days to clear it out of your system and basically halt the release of bile from the gall bladder (because bile is used to emulsify the fat you eat).  Then you drink epsom salts to relax the ducts of the gall bladder, thus dilating them.  Then you drink a whole bunch of oil which stimulates a big release of bile from the gall bladder and you hope that jump starting the release of bile while the ducts are open will also release any stones in the gall bladder.  Theses stones will then be eliminated from the body.

The reason this flush also helps the liver is that the liver and gallbladder work closely together.  The liver produces bile, which is stored in the gall bladder until needed.  A congested gall bladder (full of stones) can also congest the liver and make it work harder to do it's job.  If your gall bladder is relatively stone-free, fat digestion is far easier and more efficient.

Bile is made from cholesterol and the only way to eliminate it from the body is via the stool.  If you are not releasing enough bile during digestion, it will remain in the gall bladder.  Since your body uses cholesterol to make it (and can recycle bile, BTW), eliminating more bile through healthy fat digestion can help lower serum cholesterol, since it will be reuptaken by the liver to replace eliminated bile.  Fibre helps to increase bile elimination by binding it to stools to be eliminated.




That's very well explained, thank-u so much !!  


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No problem,

ND=Naturopathic Doctor


Oh well I got one right at least
I guess that I'm on the right track, again I thank-u for all ur wisdom  


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I used to have an old BTD food list which showed gentian to be an avoid for type B's.  I don't know if that has changed or not, but I stopped using that herb about 8 years ago because of that.

I've never used gold coin grass, but I do really like the herb Chanca Piedra (Breakstone), which is recommended by Julia Chang for helping with the elimination of gallstones and promoting liver health.  Like some of the others, I no longer do flushes, finding that they seem to make me weak and put a stress on my body.  But when I was younger and just beginning to improve my diet, I did many fasts and flushes and it seemed to be a good place to start at that time.



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I used to have an old BTD food list which showed gentian to be an avoid for type B's.  I don't know if that has changed or not, but I stopped using that herb about 8 years ago because of that.


Really

I wonder if that's changed or NOT ?? Anybody ?


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I've never used gold coin grass, but I do really like the herb Chanca Piedra (Breakstone), which is recommended by Julia Chang for helping with the elimination of gallstones and promoting liver health.


Thank-u Victoria, I will most definately keep that in mind  

btw; is Chanca Piedra ok for B's ??


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Another site that I came across today and is quite interesting !!!

http://www.earthclinic.com/CURES/gallstones.html

Cheers  


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