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funkymuse
Thursday, January 25, 2007, 3:57pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Anybody ever head of this one?  I've been taking it for joint and muscle aches and it seems to really be doing the job!

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Lola
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just make sure there are no avoids reading the ingredient list.


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As long as its Enteric-Coated...


Just curious what the ingredients really say...It appears these products are sold in Pyramid schemes without releasing this info.

Besides, the Bromalain which casn be used by all groups {from the Health Protocols}.


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Dewdrop
Thursday, January 25, 2007, 5:28pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Here is a complete list of ingredients that I just received....

Broco-T
Green tea leaves: 217mg (polyphenols min. 20% caffeine min 10%), coleus
foskolii roots: 131mg (forskolin min. 1%), cellulose: 95mg (capsule), 3-day
old broccoli sprouts: 52mg (sulforaphane min. 2500 ppm), magnesium stearate:
10mg.

Kami-D
Cellulose (capsule) 95mg, marshmallow (root) 67mg, lemon balm (leaf) 55mg,
coriander (seed) 54mg, goosegrass (leaf) 54 mg, amylase, rosemary (leaf)
41mg, cellulases complex, peptidases (acid stable proteases complex), acid
stable lipase, acid proteases complex (HUT), alkaline proteases complex
(HU), magnesium stearate, bromelain, maltase (glucoamylase), lactase,
sucrase (invertase), alpha-galactosidase.

Gamma-Zyme
Amylase 4300skbu
Aloe Vera 50.0mg
Gamma Oryzanol 40.00mg
Peppermint Leaf 30.0mg
Lipase 9000lu
Cellulase 240cu
Invertase 450 sumner
Gluco-Amylase 12ag
Alpha-Glactosidase 225gal
Calcium Citrate 2.5mg
Other Ingredients: Cellulose, Rice Flour

Maximizer Enzymes
Per capsule:
Protease 22,500hut
Acid stable protease 25sapu
Amylase 6,200skbu
Lipase 9,000lu
Gluco-Amylase 12ag
Alpha-Galactosidase 225gal
Invertase 360 sumner
Maltase 60du
Acitinidin 430pu
Xylanase 1,600xu
Cellulase 240cu
Pectinase 1,900ajdu
Lactase 700 lu
Mannanase 540mu
Hemi-Cellulase 800hcu
Bromelian 20gdu
Papain 450fccpu
Other ingredients include white rice flour.

Quadra-Zyme Plus
Serving size 3 capsules (amount per serving):
Amylase 270mg
Protease 195mg
Cellulase 45mg
Lipase 75mg
Maltase 90mg
Invertase (sucrase) 120mg
Lactase 60mg
Other ingredients:
Cellulose and rice flour.

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Lola
Thursday, January 25, 2007, 5:32pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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looks ok at a glance.

you might want to check against this site for possible corn derivatives.
http://www.cornallergens.com/list/corn-allergen-list.php


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Dewdrop
Thursday, January 25, 2007, 5:43pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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From a quick glance, I don't think that he sent me the ingredients for the wobenzyme or for another one....will have to ask another supplier and see.
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Dewdrop
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OK, I believe that these are the correct ingredients for the Wobenzyme....darn corn!


Calories 2.5

    Total Carbohydrate <1.0g <1%**

    Sugars <1.0g <1%**

    Protein <1.0g <1%**


    Pancreatin*** 56000 USP - units protease (p) Sus scrofa 300mg *

    Papain *** 492 FIP-unit? Carica Papaya 180mg *

    Bromelain*** 675 FIP-unit? Ananus comosus 135mg *

    Trypsin*** 2,160 FIP-unit? (p) Sus scrofa 72mg *

    Chymotrypsin*** 900 FIP-unit? (p) Bos taurus 3mg *

    Rutosid***? 3H20 (Rutin) Sophora japonica 150mg *



(p) pancreas
* Daily value not established.
** Percent Daily Values based on a 2,000 calorie diet.
*** From dried purified aqueous extracts.
? FIP-unit is the measurement of enzyme activity according to the test methods of the Federation Internationale Pharmaceutique

Other Ingredients: Silica, Magnesium Stearate, Corn Polysaccharides, Microcrystalline Cellulose, Purified Water, Calcium Carbonate, Kaolin, Sucrose, Titanium Dioxide, Yellow Orange S., pH Resistant Enteric Coat.

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jayney-O
Thursday, January 25, 2007, 6:16pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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is this specifically for joint pain? I've always wondered...
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funkymuse
Thursday, January 25, 2007, 6:33pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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http://www.wobenzym.com/faqs.html

this page and site has tons of info. and certainly convinced me to give it a shot.  it's really helping me.  
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ISA-MANUELA
Friday, January 26, 2007, 8:08pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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bovine pancreatin = from miss piggy

I've lots of clients (mostly A + B's with  heavy reactions on that stuff) ....

that'swhy I am recommending the pancreatic and or  enzymes of Natural Factor's, much
cheaper and amazingly in their works but even here on plants' basicly

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bovine pancreatin = from miss piggy


I believe bovine is cow, is it not?



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Don
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Yes, but
Quoted from Wobenzym®N Formula FAQs
http://www.wobenzym.com/faqs.html
Q: Are there any animal-derived products in Wobenzym?
A: Wobenzym contains three enzymes (trypsin, chymotrypsin, pancreatin) derived from bovine and porcine sources.


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Check out this product by Enzymedica:  Click HERE.

I took Wobenzyme when I had Chemo 4 1/2 years ago, but I didn't know a better option.  Now if I need a Proteolytic enzyme, I use this one.



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ISA-MANUELA
Saturday, January 27, 2007, 9:22am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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sounds more than awsome Victoria ......that could even work for mandi's mom.....wew.....
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Victoria
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Yes, Isa.  It's a great product and a very good company too.



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funkymuse
Monday, January 29, 2007, 8:24pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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What are the differences in Wobenzym and this Repair product?
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Victoria
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Repair is all vegetarian based.  No pig or cow enzymes, but much the same functions.



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Dewdrop
Monday, January 29, 2007, 8:53pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Victoria, in the past, when were you using Repair? What specific ailments were you targeting?
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Dewdrop, I was addressing widespread inflammation caused by the chemotherapy I went through about 4 1/2 years ago. . . all interior mucous membranes, nasal, lungs, throat, stomach, intestines, vagina, anus.  Plus joints, eyes, gums, etc.  Needless to say, non-secretors don't do so well with chemicals!  

ps. . All those problems are totally cleared up now.



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funkymuse
Tuesday, January 30, 2007, 1:08am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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that's it, i'm tryin' it!!!  thanks for the heads up!
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Sounds good, funkymuse!  But be sure to stay away from avoids while you're at it!  (especially the wheat!)  



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does anyone know if any of the following ingredients in Wobenzym are bad for O Secretors?

I'm wondering about the Corn Polysaccharides... what is this and how can it harm?

Is it used as a binder for this product or???

Pancreatin*** 56000 USP – units protease (p) Sus scrofa       300mg       *
Papain *** 492 FIP-unit† Carica Papaya     180mg     *
Bromelain*** 675 FIP-unit† Ananus comosus     135mg     *
Trypsin*** 2,160 FIP-unit† (p) Sus scrofa     72mg     *
Chymotrypsin*** 900 FIP-unit† (p) Bos taurus     3mg     *
Rutosid***† 3H20 (Rutin) Sophora japonica     150mg     *

(p) pancreas
* Daily value not established.
** Percent Daily Values based on a 2,000 calorie diet.
*** From dried purified aqueous extracts.
† FIP-unit is the measurement of enzyme activity according to the test methods of the Federation Internationale Pharmaceutique

Other Ingredients: Silica, Magnesium Stearate, Corn Polysaccharides, Microcrystalline Cellulose, pH Resistant Enteric Coat.
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does anyone know if any of the following ingredients in Wobenzym are bad for O Secretors?

I'm wondering about the Corn Polysaccharides... what is this and how can it harm?

Is it used as a binder for this product or???


Since it is from corn, the main question is does it contain the corn lectin? If it does then it is be an avoid for the same reason that corn is an avoid.

Have you tried contacting the company and asking them about it? Although, I don't expect them to be able to answer any questions about the corn lectin content.



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What about this one? I have recently received a lot of info about this product. Sounds like it solves all problems!

http://www.baselinenutritionals.com/product.php?ID=5
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I did email them.  As soon as I hear, i'll post...
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