Welcome, Guest.
Please login or register


Main Forum Page  ♦   Latest Posts  ♦   Member Center  ♦   Search  ♦   Archives   ♦   Help   ♦   Log In/Out   ♦   Admins
Forum Login
Login Name: Create a new account
Password:     Forgot password

BTD Forums    Diet and Nutrition    Supp Right For Your Type  ›  Answering dandelion question re: Liver
Users Browsing Forum
No Members and 11 Guests

Answering dandelion question re: Liver  This thread currently has 1,773 views. Print Print Thread
2 Pages 1 2 All Recommend Thread
Lloyd
Sunday, December 17, 2006, 11:19pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

GT1 (Hunter)
Sa Bon Nim
Administrator
Posts: 7,343
I no longer recall who asked the question or what the thread was, but here is the answer.

In re Dandelion's effect in promoting liver health, the answer is in flavonoids found in the root: The flavonoids in milk thistle (silymarin) and in dandelion root (taraxacum) protect the liver against reactive oxygen species[145].

The reference in question {145} is: 145. Cody, V., et al., ed. Plant Flavonoids in Biology and Medicine II. Biochemical, Cellular and Medicinal Properties. Progress in Clinical and Biological Research, Vol. 280. 1988, Aland R. liss, Inc.: New York. 481.

The article from which this reference was pulled concerns leaky gut syndrome and was provided in another thread some time past by a now forgotten poster. (MoDon is a suspect.)  

http://www.mdheal.org/leakygut.htm

So the presumed answer to the question is, it is the root that provides the benefit to the liver.
Logged
Private Message Private message
Susana
Sunday, December 17, 2006, 11:36pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

GT1 Hunter 51%
Kyosha Nim
Posts: 1,445
Gender: Female
Location: Tenerife, Spain
Age: 51
I did not ask the question but I apreciate the answer.

Thank you.

Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 1 - 46
Alia Vo
Monday, December 18, 2006, 1:13am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Kyosha Nim
Posts: 3,640
Gender: Female
Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota
Age: 43
Thank you for providing us with this information.

Alia


Alia A. Vo
A Positive Secretor
Minneapolis, Minnesota
BTD Lifestyle Since 1999
John 17
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 2 - 46
ISA-MANUELA
Monday, December 18, 2006, 6:54am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
Guest User
and fresh dendalion leaves in your salad is a yummie and healthy thing too dito as a tea or infusion...antiadhesive for some lecker lectins  
Logged
E-mail E-mail Reply: 3 - 46
Debra+
Monday, December 18, 2006, 1:24pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Eat BTD...Healthy Body... Happier Soul 'Gatherer'
Kyosha Nim
Posts: 5,812
Gender: Female
Location: Kirkland Lake, Northern Ontario, Canada
Age: 57
Another one who appreciates this information.

Debra


"Everything that irritates us about others can lead us to an understanding of ourselves." C.G. Jung"

O+nonT

CBP (Certified BodyTalk Practitioner)
Mindscape (remote/distant healing)
Traditional Chinese Medicine
Accunect Practitioner...in training to teach Self-Care
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 4 - 46
LuHu
Monday, December 18, 2006, 4:26pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Rh-, dx w/Multiple Sclerosis Spring '04
Autumn: Harvest, success.
Posts: 356
Gender: Female
Location: Southeast USA
Quoted from Susana
I did not ask the question but I apreciate the answer.

Thank you.



Loved this reply, Susana and I ditto it!  


"Some people look out and see a land of giants while others look out and see a land flowing with milk and honey."
(As BTDers, please substitute your most desirable, delightful bennie for the figurative 'milk and honey'!)
Logged
Private Message Private message Reply: 5 - 46
Phred
Tuesday, February 27, 2007, 4:54pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA
Autumn: Harvest, success.
Posts: 137
Gender: Male
Location: Ottawa, Ontario
Age: 39
I have a cup a day as does my girlfriend... it's really amazing stuff!


It's always better after the second iteration.

Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 6 - 46
Alia Vo
Wednesday, February 28, 2007, 1:08am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Kyosha Nim
Posts: 3,640
Gender: Female
Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota
Age: 43
I frequently like to add raw dandelion leaves to my salads; they add a nice contrasting flavor and I know that they are very medicinal for the liver.

Alia


Alia A. Vo
A Positive Secretor
Minneapolis, Minnesota
BTD Lifestyle Since 1999
John 17
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 7 - 46
Lloyd
Wednesday, February 28, 2007, 1:35am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

GT1 (Hunter)
Sa Bon Nim
Administrator
Posts: 7,343
Quoted from Alia_Vo
I frequently like to add raw dandelion leaves to my salads; they add a nice contrasting flavor and I know that they are very medicinal for the liver.

Alia


The root moreso than the leaves, as explained in the original post. That's why the root tea is so beneficial. Probably should be given a break from time to time, like other supplements in it's class (milk thistle). My guess would be the greens alone need no break, just a supposition.

Logged
Private Message Private message Reply: 8 - 46
Alia Vo
Wednesday, February 28, 2007, 7:56pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Kyosha Nim
Posts: 3,640
Gender: Female
Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota
Age: 43
That is correct.  I enjoy eating organic dandelion greens because they are a whole foods source; I favor eating fresh dandelion leaves daily to assist with healthy liver function than taking supplements.  

However, I do take NAP's Taxacurum periodically.

Alia



Alia A. Vo
A Positive Secretor
Minneapolis, Minnesota
BTD Lifestyle Since 1999
John 17
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 9 - 46
Lisalea
Monday, March 5, 2007, 1:54am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Ee Dan
Posts: 1,812
Gender: Female
Location: Canada
Hi everybody,
I also bought:
Traditional Medicinals
Organic Roasted Dandelion Root
Traditionally Used As a Digestive Aid (and to increase bile flow)
100% Organic
Caffeine Free Herbal Tea

It says to steep for 15 minutes ... This sounds like a VERY long time !!

furthermore; I see that people r using it as a daily tea but on my box it says that it may be used up to "two weeks" !!
hence; beware people 'cause there must be  a reason for this IMHO.

I wonder if I can drink this tea before going to bed ??
I'll wait till somebody guides me before just incase it may NOT be a good idea since I've never tried it before
Thank-u  


The older I get, the more wide-eyed I become.  
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 10 - 46
helpertouch
Monday, March 5, 2007, 2:02am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
Guest User
Dandelion tea (or dandelion coffee, as roasted roots are sometimes called) is often used as a coffee substitute. It is delicious. Very cleansing and supportive to the liver. YOu can add some of the finely ground roasted roots to regular coffee if you're allowed to have it  . I don't know about limiting your use of the tea. I would suspect though that if you are needing a liver cleanse, you should take it in increments.
Cathy Wilson
helpertouch
Logged
E-mail E-mail Reply: 11 - 46
Lisalea
Monday, March 5, 2007, 2:14am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Ee Dan
Posts: 1,812
Gender: Female
Location: Canada
Quoted from helpertouch
Dandelion tea (or dandelion coffee, as roasted roots are sometimes called) is often used as a coffee substitute.


I had no idea ... that's quite interesting !!
Thank-u for the info ... actually I haven't had a latte in almost 6 weeks !!!
and although I miss it so much,  I truly hope that I won't go back to it ... at least NOT on a daily basis but rather a once in a while treat

Quoted from helpertouch
It is delicious. Very cleansing and supportive to the liver. YOu can add some of the finely ground roasted roots to regular coffee if you're allowed to have it  . I don't know about limiting your use of the tea. I would suspect though that if you are needing a liver cleanse, you should take it in increments.
Cathy Wilson
helpertouch



Indeed, I've read so many positive benfeits from it hence I've decided to buy a box and see what happens ... it just dawned on me that maybe I should wait to see my naturopath before though, since I'm NOT sure if I should use it 'cause I still have burping problems  

It sounds strange though to add dandelion to coffee since coffee is acidic and NOT cleansing to the liver ... hmmmm ...

I appreciate ur input and I thank-u  


The older I get, the more wide-eyed I become.  

Revision History (1 edits)
LISALEA  -  Monday, March 5, 2007, 2:15am
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 12 - 46
Schluggell
Monday, March 5, 2007, 5:03pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Permaculture Rh+ INFP Aquarius
Kyosha Nim
Posts: 2,035
Gender: Male
Location: Ipswich, Suffolk, UK
Age: 45
And once the Liver is back in check...There is the wonderful wine made from Dandelion blossoms.

Which brings to mind - eat the flowers...

Or cook the leaves in several changes of water to remove some of the bitterness.

And overwinter a strawbale over a weedy patch, and harvest 'blanched Chicory' from the leaves in Spring.


Herr Schlüggell -- Establish a Garden; Cultivate Community. "To see things in the seed, that is genius. He who obtains has little. He who scatters has much. The way to do is to be." -Lao Tzu
Bruno Manser, Ned Lud, August Sabbe, Richard St. Barbe-Baker, Eddie Koiki Mabo, Masanobu Fukuoka
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 13 - 46
Lisalea
Monday, March 5, 2007, 11:10pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Ee Dan
Posts: 1,812
Gender: Female
Location: Canada
Quoted from Schluggell
And once the Liver is back in check...There is the wonderful wine made from Dandelion blossoms.

Which brings to mind - eat the flowers...

Or cook the leaves in several changes of water to remove some of the bitterness.

And overwinter a strawbale over a weedy patch, and harvest 'blanched Chicory' from the leaves in Spring.






The older I get, the more wide-eyed I become.  
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 14 - 46
Alia Vo
Tuesday, March 6, 2007, 1:15am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Kyosha Nim
Posts: 3,640
Gender: Female
Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota
Age: 43
Quoted from LISALEA

furthermore; I see that people r using it as a daily tea but on my box it says that it may be used up to "two weeks" !!
hence; beware people 'cause there must be  a reason for this IMO


This is probably because dandelion is known as a liver cleanser/detoxifier.  It is nice to take a break from medicinal herbs so they do not lose their effectiveness if taken for a protocol or for a specific health reason.

Alia


Alia A. Vo
A Positive Secretor
Minneapolis, Minnesota
BTD Lifestyle Since 1999
John 17
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 15 - 46
Lisalea
Tuesday, March 6, 2007, 3:18am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Ee Dan
Posts: 1,812
Gender: Female
Location: Canada
Quoted from Alia_Vo


This is probably because dandelion is known as a liver cleanser/detoxifier.  It is nice to take a break from medicinal herbs so they do not lose their effectiveness if taken for a protocol or for a specific health reason.

Alia



Oh yes, that makes ALOT of sence Alia, thanks for reminding me !!



The older I get, the more wide-eyed I become.  
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 16 - 46
Alia Vo
Tuesday, March 6, 2007, 8:09pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Kyosha Nim
Posts: 3,640
Gender: Female
Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota
Age: 43


Alia


Alia A. Vo
A Positive Secretor
Minneapolis, Minnesota
BTD Lifestyle Since 1999
John 17
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 17 - 46
zola
Tuesday, March 6, 2007, 8:16pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

GT4 - Explorer
Autumn: Harvest, success.
Posts: 487
Location: WA, USA
Age: 42
Lisalea - Thanks for the brand recommendation. That's a good one. Roasted Dandelion Root. I love the variety here on the boards!


It is so pleasant to explore nature & oneself at the same time, doing violence neither to her nor to one's own spirit, but bringing both into balance in gentle, mutual interaction.

Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 18 - 46
Victoria
Tuesday, March 6, 2007, 8:31pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Swami Nomad 56%
Sun Beh Nim
Moderator
Posts: 15,437
Gender: Female
Location: Oregon
Quoted from LISALEA
Hi everybody,
I also bought:
Traditional Medicinals
Organic Roasted Dandelion Root
Traditionally Used As a Digestive Aid (and to increase bile flow)
100% Organic
Caffeine Free Herbal Tea

It says to steep for 15 minutes ... This sounds like a VERY long time !!


I wonder if I can drink this tea before going to bed ??
I'll wait till somebody guides me before just incase it may NOT be a good idea since I've never tried it before
Thank-u  


This is the brand that I use also.  I have really come to love this beverage.  I let my tea bags steep at least 15 minutes and sometimes I don't even remove the tea bag.  This is not the same thing as green tea which should be steeped a very short time to prevent bitterness.  
A root like this needs boiling hot water and plenty of soak time to allow all the beneficial properties to come out into the water.

I think dandelion root would be good for excessive burping because it is such a good digestive aid.  Only if you have a blockage in your gall ducts would you need to be concerned, in my opinion.  Otherwise, it may even improve that condition.  I always have much larger bowel movements when I am drinking it.

I usually stop after a few days and take a little break.  I don't time it, just play it by ear!  

Oh, and it's a very good nighttime beverage!



Normal day, let me be aware of the treasure you are.
Let me not pass you by in quest
of some rare and perfect tomorrow.
~Mary Jean Irion

Revision History (1 edits)
LISALEA  -  Tuesday, March 6, 2007, 8:33pm
Logged
Site Site Private Message Private message Reply: 19 - 46
Lisalea
Wednesday, March 7, 2007, 12:21am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Ee Dan
Posts: 1,812
Gender: Female
Location: Canada
Quoted from Victoria


This is the brand that I use also.  I have really come to love this beverage.  I let my tea bags steep at least 15 minutes and sometimes I don't even remove the tea bag.  This is not the same thing as green tea which should be steeped a very short time to prevent bitterness.  
A root like this needs boiling hot water and plenty of soak time to allow all the beneficial properties to come out into the water.

I think dandelion root would be good for excessive burping because it is such a good digestive aid.  Only if you have a blockage in your gall ducts would you need to be concerned, in my opinion.  Otherwise, it may even improve that condition.  I always have much larger bowel movements when I am drinking it.

I usually stop after a few days and take a little break.  I don't time it, just play it by ear!  

Oh, and it's a very good nighttime beverage!




Hi Victoria,
That is such great news;
I will make myself a cup before bedtime   !!

Oh and how would I know if I have a blockage in my gall duct ?
I don't have any pain or anything or can there be other silent symptoms ??

Thank-u so very much  


The older I get, the more wide-eyed I become.  
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 20 - 46
Lola
Wednesday, March 7, 2007, 12:44am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

GT1; L (a-b-); (se); PROP-T; NN
Sa Bon Nim
Admin & Columnist
Posts: 51,445
Gender: Female
Location: ''eternal spring'' Cuernavaca - Mex.
Age: 58
Lisa lea,
teraxacum is also a potent diuretic........


''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
DNA mt/Haplo H; Y-chrom/J2(M172);ISTJ
The harder you are on yourself, the easier life will be on you!
Logged
Private Message Private message YIM YIM Reply: 21 - 46
Lisalea
Wednesday, March 7, 2007, 12:59am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Ee Dan
Posts: 1,812
Gender: Female
Location: Canada
Quoted from lola
Lisa lea,
teraxacum is also a potent diuretic........


Thanks Lola ... let me google it and go read up on it since I've never even heard of it's nor the properties/benefits ... etc ... Gracias  !!


The older I get, the more wide-eyed I become.  
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 22 - 46
Lola
Wednesday, March 7, 2007, 1:50am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

GT1; L (a-b-); (se); PROP-T; NN
Sa Bon Nim
Admin & Columnist
Posts: 51,445
Gender: Female
Location: ''eternal spring'' Cuernavaca - Mex.
Age: 58
dandelion is teraxacum


''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
DNA mt/Haplo H; Y-chrom/J2(M172);ISTJ
The harder you are on yourself, the easier life will be on you!
Logged
Private Message Private message YIM YIM Reply: 23 - 46
Lisalea
Wednesday, March 7, 2007, 4:19am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Ee Dan
Posts: 1,812
Gender: Female
Location: Canada
Quoted from lola
dandelion is teraxacum


I realized that; when I googled it


What did u mean Lola ?
teraxacum is also a potent diuretic........

Is it warning that it's very strong and perhaps I shouldn't use it  
Thank-u  


The older I get, the more wide-eyed I become.  

Revision History (1 edits)
LISALEA  -  Wednesday, March 7, 2007, 4:21am
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 24 - 46
ABJoe
Wednesday, March 7, 2007, 4:33am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

35% Nomad or Teacher - health history dependent
Sun Beh Nim
Moderator
Posts: 8,358
Gender: Male
Location: Orange County, CA, USA
Age: 51
Lisalea,
My assumption is that Lola is reminding you that you may have more bathroom breaks and need to replenish water more while drinking your tea...

Enjoy the benefits!


RH-, ISTJ
Wonderful Wife = A+ Teacher; Darling Daughter = A- SWAMI Explorer
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 25 - 46
Victoria
Wednesday, March 7, 2007, 5:25pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Swami Nomad 56%
Sun Beh Nim
Moderator
Posts: 15,437
Gender: Female
Location: Oregon
LisaLea,
Some people have a lot of pain in the region of their gallbladder, and are very aware that they have problems here.  It doesn't seem to be an issue for you, so don't worry.

I think the leaves of the dandelion are the diuretic part, as well as a powerful vitamina and mineral rich food, and the root is more often used as a liver cleanser, digestive aid and mineral-rich nutrient supplement.  Someone please correct me if I'm mistaken.

The tea you are using, Lisa, is only the root.

A nice side affect of dandelion root is benefits for the breast tissue.  It helps in reducing benign lumps and is mildly protective against breast cancer.



Normal day, let me be aware of the treasure you are.
Let me not pass you by in quest
of some rare and perfect tomorrow.
~Mary Jean Irion
Logged
Site Site Private Message Private message Reply: 26 - 46
Lisalea
Wednesday, March 7, 2007, 5:40pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Ee Dan
Posts: 1,812
Gender: Female
Location: Canada
Quoted from ABJoe
Lisalea,
My assumption is that Lola is reminding you that you may have more bathroom breaks and need to replenish water more while drinking your tea...

Enjoy the benefits!


Thank-u so much, I did indeed enjoy the dandelion tea especially knowing that it brings benefits
Cheers  


The older I get, the more wide-eyed I become.  
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 27 - 46
Lisalea
Wednesday, March 7, 2007, 6:22pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Ee Dan
Posts: 1,812
Gender: Female
Location: Canada
Quoted from Victoria
LisaLea,
Some people have a lot of pain in the region of their gallbladder, and are very aware that they have problems here.  It doesn't seem to be an issue for you, so don't worry.


I didn't know this hence thanks so much for this valueable information Victoria !!



Quoted from Victoria
A nice side affect of dandelion root is benefits for the breast tissue.  It helps in reducing benign lumps and is mildly protective against breast cancer


More wonderful news !!
Actually, I do have small cist in my right breast (probably estrogen related  ); my doctor said to go for mammograms every year to keep an eye on it ... sigh ...  


The older I get, the more wide-eyed I become.  
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 28 - 46
Victoria
Wednesday, March 7, 2007, 6:31pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Swami Nomad 56%
Sun Beh Nim
Moderator
Posts: 15,437
Gender: Female
Location: Oregon
Another helpful supplement for breast lumps is Vitex (Chastetree).  It helps to gently balance hormones, especially for women who are estrogen dominate.  It is a slow acting herb, so you need to take it daily for many weeks before you will see benefits.  You can take it long term, maybe taking a break of a week or so, every couple of months.  It is an herb that also helps to balance hormone related emotional storms.  

By the way, coffee contributes to breast lumps.  



Normal day, let me be aware of the treasure you are.
Let me not pass you by in quest
of some rare and perfect tomorrow.
~Mary Jean Irion
Logged
Site Site Private Message Private message Reply: 29 - 46
Eric
Wednesday, March 7, 2007, 6:58pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Kyosha Nim
Posts: 935
Gender: Male
Location: Western Mass
Age: 30
Quoted Text
It is nice to take a break from medicinal herbs so they do not lose their effectiveness...



Is this really true?  I've been having liver issues for a long time, and have been taking the same herbs for like 6 months straight...  It scares me to think of stopping my supplement usage.  I figured herbs were balancing, and your body would adapt according to your needs.  


Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Skype Skype Reply: 30 - 46
Lisalea
Wednesday, March 7, 2007, 7:05pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Ee Dan
Posts: 1,812
Gender: Female
Location: Canada
Quoted from Victoria
Another helpful supplement for breast lumps is Vitex (Chastetree).  It helps to gently balance hormones, especially for women who are estrogen dominate.  It is a slow acting herb, so you need to take it daily for many weeks before you will see benefits.  You can take it long term, maybe taking a break of a week or so, every couple of months.  It is an herb that also helps to balance hormone related emotional storms.  

Really ??!!
Can anybody take it at anytime or should I wait and see a naturopath before ??
furthermore; I'm on the birthcontrol pill and since I've been eating BTD I do have ALOT less cravings and my hormones r ... how can I say this ?? emm ... less wild ...

I've also upped my NYF 'cause I've read that women on BCP absolutely need more B's !!

Thank-u so much Victoria; I've learn ALOT from u these past few days  !!


Quoted from Victoria
By the way, coffee contributes to breast lumps.

Oh my ... at least I'm NOT drinking any lattes for the time being ...
Is it all coffee and including espresso ??

Thanks  


The older I get, the more wide-eyed I become.  
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 31 - 46
Lisalea
Wednesday, March 7, 2007, 7:10pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Ee Dan
Posts: 1,812
Gender: Female
Location: Canada
Quoted from erictm998



Is this really true?  I've been having liver issues for a long time, and have been taking the same herbs for like 6 months straight...  It scares me to think of stopping my supplement usage.  I figured herbs were balancing, and your body would adapt according to your needs.  



A naturopath told me that anything taken long term = Abuse ... and too much of a good thing isn't necessarily better and "may" become harmful longterm; u absolutely need b-r-e-a-k-s in between ... I know u don't want to hear that as I didn't want to hear it myself at the time  
... hence be very careful ...


The older I get, the more wide-eyed I become.  
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 32 - 46
Victoria
Wednesday, March 7, 2007, 7:16pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Swami Nomad 56%
Sun Beh Nim
Moderator
Posts: 15,437
Gender: Female
Location: Oregon
You don't need to take a long break, Eric.  It probably won't hurt you to keep taking herbs if you are dealing with a specific health problem, but for long term use, your body will remain more sensitive and responsive to the supplements if you take an occasional break.  What kind of herbs are you taking?

LisaLea,
Vitex is easy to find in natural food stores and does not need any particular prescription.  It is harmless.  But I don't know about birth control pills, and any contraindications there.

And yes, any kind of coffee, even expresso, can contribute to cysts in the breasts.



Normal day, let me be aware of the treasure you are.
Let me not pass you by in quest
of some rare and perfect tomorrow.
~Mary Jean Irion
Logged
Site Site Private Message Private message Reply: 33 - 46
Eric
Wednesday, March 7, 2007, 7:28pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Kyosha Nim
Posts: 935
Gender: Male
Location: Western Mass
Age: 30
Wow, thanks for the info.  I'm essentially taking Dr. D's heptiguard on steroids.  I buy individual herbs on-line (rosemountainherbs, etc) instead of prepared capsules.  I have bottles of milk thistle, bupleurum, phyllanthus, and turmeric that I take twice a day for the liver.  I usually measure around 1/4 teaspoon of each herb and mix it w/water.  Taste doesn't bother me.   And I also have bladderwrack, cayenne, slippery elm, chicory, clove, and nettle root.   That's just the herbs... I also have calcium, the NAP polyflora, capryllic acid, zinc, glutamine, rhodiola, arabinogalactan powder, NAC, NAG, and some other stuff.  Of course I don't take all of those consistently, only the probiotic and the calcium on a regular basis.  with the liver herbs.


Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Skype Skype Reply: 34 - 46
Victoria
Wednesday, March 7, 2007, 7:43pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Swami Nomad 56%
Sun Beh Nim
Moderator
Posts: 15,437
Gender: Female
Location: Oregon
Those are good supplements, Eric.  
There are a lot of kinds of Phyllanthus.  Is this the one you are taking for your liver?  CLICK

I also take a lot of supplements, and I understand how you are hesitating to take a break from anything.  My experience is that I am more successful with my protocols if I stop for a week or two, after taking anything for a couple of months.  Others use a different rhythm, but that works for me.  I don't ever stop with my vitamins and minerals and polyflora, except maybe one day a week, but never long-term.  You could create a pattern like one of these:
5 days on and 2 days off
two weeks on and 4 days off
one month on and 5 days off
two months on and one week off
three months on and 10 days off
etc.
Sometimes our liver needs a rest from processing so much great stuff.    I need to take my own advice more.



Normal day, let me be aware of the treasure you are.
Let me not pass you by in quest
of some rare and perfect tomorrow.
~Mary Jean Irion
Logged
Site Site Private Message Private message Reply: 35 - 46
Eric
Wednesday, March 7, 2007, 7:52pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Kyosha Nim
Posts: 935
Gender: Male
Location: Western Mass
Age: 30
Victoria, I really appreciate the help!  I never really thought about that before, and I'll definately work in the breaks from now on.   That's the one thing that's always been on my mind since I started the BTD-  what to supplement with, and how often.  I've decided that the most important one is the polyflora, but I don't actually take vitamins or minerals (except cal/mag) because they're so expensive    Speaking of which, in the NAP multi, Dr. D. uses about 25mg of various herbs, and those are supposed to be taken daily and indefinately, no?    


Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Skype Skype Reply: 36 - 46
Victoria
Wednesday, March 7, 2007, 8:04pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Swami Nomad 56%
Sun Beh Nim
Moderator
Posts: 15,437
Gender: Female
Location: Oregon
That's a small amount of each herb, and not such a big deal.  I only take a break of one day a week with my multis.  Larger amounts, like 500 mg. capsules, may need an actual break like I described in my previous post.



Normal day, let me be aware of the treasure you are.
Let me not pass you by in quest
of some rare and perfect tomorrow.
~Mary Jean Irion
Logged
Site Site Private Message Private message Reply: 37 - 46
Lisalea
Wednesday, March 7, 2007, 8:25pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Ee Dan
Posts: 1,812
Gender: Female
Location: Canada
Quoted from Victoria
LisaLea,
Vitex is easy to find in natural food stores and does not need any particular prescription.  It is harmless.  But I don't know about birth control pills, and any contraindications there.


My thoughts exactly about the contraindications with the birthcontrol
pill hence, if anybody knows for sure please speak up

Thank-u again Victoria


The older I get, the more wide-eyed I become.  
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 38 - 46
Lloyd
Thursday, March 8, 2007, 12:38am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

GT1 (Hunter)
Sa Bon Nim
Administrator
Posts: 7,343
Quoted from Victoria

I think the leaves of the dandelion are the diuretic part, as well as a powerful vitamina and mineral rich food, and the root is more often used as a liver cleanser, digestive aid and mineral-rich nutrient supplement.  Someone please correct me if I'm mistaken.


It's my understanding that the diruetic action of the dandelion is primarily from the latex, which is found throughout the plant including the roots. This may or may not be correct, although I suspect it is correct.

This website is just one of many that a google search shows promoting dandelion root as a diuretic.

Another site says:
The American Botanical Council has provided an article summarizing the supported uses of Dandelion. Dandelion root is generally considered to have diuretic, choleretic, tonic and laxative properties, among others. The herb is used for appetite and dyspeptic disorders, such as abdominal fullness and flatulence.






Revision History (3 edits)
LISALEA  -  Thursday, March 8, 2007, 12:47am
LISALEA  -  Thursday, March 8, 2007, 12:46am
LISALEA  -  Thursday, March 8, 2007, 12:43am
Logged
Private Message Private message Reply: 39 - 46
Lisalea
Thursday, March 8, 2007, 4:03am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Ee Dan
Posts: 1,812
Gender: Female
Location: Canada


The older I get, the more wide-eyed I become.  
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 40 - 46
Lisalea
Thursday, March 8, 2007, 4:07am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Ee Dan
Posts: 1,812
Gender: Female
Location: Canada
Quoted from Alan_Goldenberg


It's my understanding that the diruetic action of the dandelion is primarily from the latex, which is found throughout the plant including the roots. This may or may not be correct, although I suspect it is correct.

This website is just one of many that a google search shows promoting dandelion root as a diuretic.

Another site says:









Thank-u for the information  Lloyd_O-secretor  

I drank the dandelion tea again tonight; my experience so far is that it's giving me quite a bit of gas !!
however; I had a great bowel movement this morning, hence I will NOT complain !!


The older I get, the more wide-eyed I become.  
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 41 - 46
Victoria
Thursday, March 8, 2007, 6:44pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Swami Nomad 56%
Sun Beh Nim
Moderator
Posts: 15,437
Gender: Female
Location: Oregon
The gas could be just that things are beginninng to move more.



Normal day, let me be aware of the treasure you are.
Let me not pass you by in quest
of some rare and perfect tomorrow.
~Mary Jean Irion
Logged
Site Site Private Message Private message Reply: 42 - 46
Lisalea
Thursday, March 8, 2007, 11:56pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Ee Dan
Posts: 1,812
Gender: Female
Location: Canada
Quoted from Victoria
The gas could be just that things are beginninng to move more.



I hope so and may it move in the right direction and right out of my body
I will have another cup tonight before bed ... I'm thinking of drinking it 5 days in a row and then we'll see what happens, Thank-u again Victoria  


The older I get, the more wide-eyed I become.  
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 43 - 46
Alia Vo
Saturday, March 10, 2007, 12:04am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Kyosha Nim
Posts: 3,640
Gender: Female
Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota
Age: 43
Thank you for sharing the website links with us, Lloyd_O-secretor and Lisalea.
Alia


Alia A. Vo
A Positive Secretor
Minneapolis, Minnesota
BTD Lifestyle Since 1999
John 17
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 44 - 46
Lisalea
Tuesday, March 13, 2007, 3:01am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Ee Dan
Posts: 1,812
Gender: Female
Location: Canada
Quoted from Alia_Vo
Thank you for sharing the website links with us, Lloyd_O-secretor and Lisalea.
Alia



It's my pleasure Alia_Vo

I found another REALLY great site that I would like to share
http://www.mdidea.com/products/new/new023.html

Cheers


The older I get, the more wide-eyed I become.  
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 45 - 46
Alia Vo
Tuesday, March 13, 2007, 8:39pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Kyosha Nim
Posts: 3,640
Gender: Female
Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota
Age: 43
Thank you for sharing this with us.

Alia


Alia A. Vo
A Positive Secretor
Minneapolis, Minnesota
BTD Lifestyle Since 1999
John 17
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 46 - 46
2 Pages 1 2 All Recommend Thread
Print Print Thread

BTD Forums    Diet and Nutrition    Supp Right For Your Type  ›  Answering dandelion question re: Liver

Thread Rating
There is currently no rating for this thread