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slyparrot
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How many women out there have problems with the pill?  My last experience included acne, weight gain (10 pounds in 6 weeks) and I was extremely cold.  I think it messed up my thyroid levels.  Oh, and my mood.... instead of being happy and zesty full of life, I felt dull and moody.  My cycles got all messed up too.  It took 4 months for my body to feel normal again, get back into sync and lose weight after stopping them.

Does anyone recommend a specific pill?  I have read on the net that different artifical hormones can cause different reactions.  My thyroid pills are similiar, they each have a different effect.  I'm not too sure when or if I can go thru that again.  Any success stories??


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I have just been on them for a bit over a year and finally decided to get off them. Im hypothyroid and was placed on them to get my periods under control so I wouldnt loose so much blood and have them for so long 9 to 11 days. I was having Iron anemia, very badly and I was just diagnosed with hypothyroidism and it took me a long time to get things balanced again. I didnt really have that many issues with the one I took Yasmin. If you want you could try that one but I think that Os and to a lesser extent A's were warned by doctor D. to not take Birth Control Pills in Live Right For Your Type. I recently made a personal decision to stop taking them because I was worried about adverse health effects from taking them for a long period of time and my sex drive was nonexistent on them but now that Im off them (less then 1 month) its nonexistent too. I will just have to give my body time to readjust and also to get my thyroid levels back to normal. Just do whats right for your body, the Pill may not be your best bet.
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How many women out there have problems with the pill?  My last experience included acne, weight gain (10 pounds in 6 weeks) and I was extremely cold.  I think it messed up my thyroid levels.  Oh, and my mood.... instead of being happy and zesty full of life, I felt dull and moody.  My cycles got all messed up too.  It took 4 months for my body to feel normal again, get back into sync and lose weight after stopping them.

Does anyone recommend a specific pill?  I have read on the net that different artifical hormones can cause different reactions.  My thyroid pills are similiar, they each have a different effect.  I'm not too sure when or if I can go thru that again.  Any success stories??


Hi,

I'm so sorry to hear that u're having problems with the birthcontrol pill  

I have been using Tricyclen for the past 11 years and haven't had any problems really and it also helps with acne it seems ...

Take a look
http://www.orthotricyclen.com/acne/acnehome.html

I really hope that u find one that works for you.
Take care



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JamieB-
The loss of sex drive happened with me too.  Before the pill I was a, well, hot-to-trot girl but the pill killed any and ALL of my sex drive.  It took months off the pill to get that back too.  My LR4YT books are loaned out to friends right now so I can't look up the info about O's not taking the pill.  No wait, one of them got returned because she purchased her own copy.  I'll get back with you guys on this.

LisaLea-
Lucky you, glad you can take them.  I never had acne issues ever until I went on the pill.  My face cleared up after about 4 months after stopping the pill.  Oh, and it felt like food just sat in my stomach for hours after eating along with a funky full but hungry appetite.

This is interesting info to have.  I would like to see some blood type connection here.


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It is interesting to hear you have had the same issues too slyparrot. I had a wonderful sexdrive up till I was diagnosed with hypothyroidism and Iron Anemia at 25 and then put on the pill, and Im happy to know that it only took 4 months for your sex drive to return. Im trying to consume 1 cup of schizandria a day for 3 months to see if that helps, my parents have suggested that as they have found great success with that so we will see as I have just started taking it. I just finally got fed up with having no sex drive or desire and I do want to have a baby in the next 2 to 4 years and was worried about being on the pill for long periods of time making it harder to get pregnant.
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Yes, I believe the loss of sex drive is one of the listed side effects listed in the small print.  I too have hypothyroidism and anemia but mine is prenicious (b12.)  My thyroiditis seems to be gone now and I've lowered the dosage of my thyroid pills and feel fine. I'm gonna have blood work done soon to see what the ranges are but I am pretty in tune to my body and believe all is well.  

Does anyone know if the pill interferes with the thyroid?  I think it does because I was soooo cold, fat and sluggish on the pill.


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JamieB, soo good for you to have stopped the pill..
Esp. as you are a A nonnie. Your blood already has the tendency to be thicker, and the pill only adds up to that...

I am an A secretor and stopped taking the pill ages and ages ago...  
I was on the pill when I was 23. I took that d**n pill for only 1 year..
What a relief when I got off: mental clarity and getting rid of excess water.. pfff....

The pill is too much of hormonal interference.. Hey gals, there are other ways of contraception!! Like condoms...  
My ex didn't like that 'solution' at all but I stood firm in my decision: NO HORMONAL interference in my body!!
Such a right decision I made almost 30 years ago..
And mind you those pills 30 years ago were even worse than those nowadays..

Anyway, do not stress your body with chemicals every day for a few moments of pleasure every week/month ??? There are alternatives gals!!

Cocky

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Weeks, Months ??? I had to chuckle when I read it.  Sometimes I think unmarried women have more sex than happily married women.  I hear complaints from my friends so often. but that's another topic.
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Quoted from geminisue
Weeks, Months ??? I had to chuckle when I read it.  Sometimes I think unmarried women have more sex than happily married women.  I hear complaints from my friends so often. but that's another topic.



Yes, Geminisue, that is quite another topic....  
and I do not think I will start such a topic... due my introversion...  

But to react to your remark I cannot relate to that one...   I wish I could

Most important thing is to keep our bodies healthy and functioning...  

Right?????

Cocky  

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The pill is too much of hormonal interference...

Cocky, very succinctly and comprehensively put and I totally agree. áI beg of women to not take the pill. áThere are other effective birth control methods that do not profoundly take over your hormonal controls and turn it all on its ear. áThe pill is a very drastic measure if you think about it. áI read something once that has always stuck with me and I'm not even sure of the source but I think it might have been Peter Singer in "Animal Liberation", of all things, but anyway, whatever the source was, the paraphrase is that, when in doubt, one should look to nature and stick as close as possible to nature, as that way it is unlikely that you can go too far astray or wrong. áThe pill turns nature on its ear. áThat is usually not a good thing, as a general rule.

Why not use a method such as the diaphragm, which is safe and very effective when used as directed?

I wouldn't mess with my hormones.



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Yes Edna, no interference in our bodies.

My impression is that most of us women are always so willing to comply and thus violate our health..

Just imagine what guys would do when asked to take a pill for the same purpose???
They would say NO, is my humble impression..

My ex suggested I would undergo sterilization after my 3rd baby.
Can you imagine???
I said NO... My 'belly' has had enough the endure....
I suggested to him he would have the sterilisation... NO way he replied...
See what I mean??

Cocky



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And have you all heard of the pills women can now take so they will only get a period once every 3 months or so?  I just can't see how that is smart at all - especially since our periods are designed to protect our bodies.  


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It seems that B's  r  the only types that can probably handle the pill then; by the looks of it ...

Any other B's that have been on the pill for many many years with no problems ??

and

Are there any B's  having problems or have had problems in the past and have had to STOP taking the pill because of it ??

Thanks everybody


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And have you all heard of the pills women can now take so they will only get a period once every 3 months or so? áI just can't see how that is smart at all - especially since our periods are designed to protect our bodies. á

I agree, nature built women in their child-bearing years to have periods, they are an intrinsic part of our design! áTo totally subvert that with a pill for convenience is completely and utterly against nature and therefore obscene. áIf it ain't broke, don't fix it! áI personally have learned that lesson the hard way in life, hence my choice of adding bold to it!

Why not just take a pill to stop from peeing and pooping and a pill to stop from ever crying or even feeling sad and a pill to make us sleep soundly and a pill to wake us up each morning?

In the words of the old margarine (of all things) commercial:

It's not nice to fool Mother Nature!

And, I would add, you do it at your own peril.

I would add something else that a Unitarian Universalist minister once said in a sermon and it stuck with me:

"Never destroy what you cannot create."



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It seems that B's  r  the only types that can probably handle the pill then; by the looks of it ...

Any other B's that have been on the pill for many many years with no problems ??

and

Are there any B's  having problems or have had problems in the past and have had to STOP taking the pill because of it ??

Thanks everybody


I was on the pill for only 2 years and didn't notice any negative side effects...

But then, I was very young and out of touch with my body. I probably could've been hit by a truck and not notice!!



I don't remember why I went off the pill either... but I have not used it since.


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Quoted from Kristin
But then, I was very young and out of touch with my body. I probably could've been hit by a truck and not notice!!

I remember being at a baseball game with my friend, Stan, and asking him how the people in front of us could eat what they ate and be as skinny as rails.  I mean, they were up every half inning to go to the concession stands and return with all manner of pizza, "dippin' dots", cotton candy, hot pretzels, peanuts, popcorn, etc.  I just didn't see how I was sitting there, having walked in 95+-degree heat to get there, and drinking my little bottle of spring water, looking like a whale, and they were there eating enough food to end world hunger if it were evenly dispersed worldwide, yet they were skinny as rails!  Stan's response to my query on this was, and I quote:

"It's called being twenty."





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It seems that B's  r  the only types that can probably handle the pill then; by the looks of it ...



I don't agree.  
It may be that there are B's who have taken the pill without OBVIOUS side effects, but that doesn't mean that it is a harmless practice.  Thousands of people eat avoids every day and don't think they are harming their bodies, until one day they discover what they have done to their health.
Interfering with our body's natural hormone rhythms is like playing with a poisonous snake.  (my opinion)



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In my experience, hormonal birth control is the only form of birth control I can count on to prevent pregnancy.  Condoms break & 'Plan B' doesn't always work as a backup... take if from someone who's been there.  It's miserable.

It's a bad situation to have to chose between your physical health and the health of your marriage, but after 2 years of trying alternatives to hormonal bc with a very supportive husband, I went back to it for the sake of my sex life.  Even if I do have a little extra weight and fatigue that I have to work extra hard on the other aspects of my health to balance out, I think it's worth it to feel secure that I will not have another unplanned pregnancy and that I can be spontaneous.

My recommendation if you have to choose hormonal is the Nuva ring.  It's a time released ring that you keep in for three weeks at a time and then take out to have your period.  It's extremely easy to manage, you only think about it twice a month.  It's also a much lower dosage because it's right at the source & the hormones don't have to cycle through your whole body either.  (Which gave me pseudo morning sickness for months at a time on the pill.)  I was extremely sensitive to the pill, I tried several kinds, both tri cycle and the same dosage all month and they all gave be trouble... especially the tri cycle ones... but I've never had the nausea problems I had with the pill since I switched to the ring and the weight gain and fatigue are much less.

But even so, I can't wait until we're at a point in our lives when my husband can get snipped   This is my ideal form of bc, we just have to wait until we can afford to have kids and then once we have them, I'm really looking forward to chucking the hormones!
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I am loving these insights!  Keep them coming!  As much as I don't want to use hormones, I am considering the ring now.  Or maybe even the diaphragm.  Unplanned pregnancies are not a good thing.  Like it was mentioned before, I too took the pill for years when I was younger and other than nausea thought I felt ok.  But after being in tuned with my body and I look back on it..... no way!  I just didn't know any better.


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for a better sexdrive take some more L'Arginine...works wonders for men and women
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Hi there girls!!! It's been great going through this thread, interesting to see all te different opinions on the matter... My case is lucky, I've been taking the pill for more that 13 years now, and thank God never had a problem with it, no nausea, no headaches, no acne, no bloating... Just some cellulite but I've always prefered this waaaaaaay over to an unwanted pregnancy!!! And then again, most of us females have it anyways, no?

I'll confess however that I can't wait to get off it (maybe I will when I get married, no plans in the near future though), I realize I'm interfering with my hormones and I'm starting to get some thoughts regarding the possibility of getting pregnant after I quit... I've heard different versions, some say that as soon as you quit you can practically become pregnant by breathing "sex", other say it takes a while for the body to get back to normal... Hope my case will be the first one though!!!

And now, I'm just thinking about the fact that I'm an A, and that it isn't really good to take the pill for my type... Any other A's out there that can share their experiences, provide advice? Thank you!!!

Anyways, going back to the initial question, and if it can be useful, the pill I take is called Marvelon in Latin America, and Practil in Europe, the lab that produces it is Organon. It's a light, low dose pill, my ginecologist recommended it to me because at the time it was the best pil for "young girls" in the market.

Very best to all, have a great weekend!!!

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For me, personally, the pill has been a blessing in many, many ways.  I have had to deal with horrid, irregular and extremely heavy periods for me entire life.  My periods can last for 2 full weeks.  I have somewhat extreme ovulations, too.  This means that I can often have only 1 "normal" week per cycle.

I went off of the pill several times in my life and have always gone back on it to regulate my periods.  As I have entered peri-menopause, I have found the pill that gives you 4 periods per year to be absolutely wonderful.

There are many thoughts about limiting the number of periods in a woman's life time.  For one thing, for millenia  women were pregnant or nursing for much of their fertile lives.  We didn't have nearly as many periods in our lifetimes as women do now and by having more periods we are having to make more and epithelial cells which are the prime cells for cancer potential.  By limiting the number of periods that we have, we might actually be limiting the opportunities for cancer.

From one article:

"Studies have shown, for example, that women who use oral contraceptives for five or more years reduce their risk of ovarian cancer by up to 50%. Each month during ovulation, epithelial cells on the surface of the ovaries rupture in order to release an egg. The cells then have to divide to repair the hole. But epithelial cells are exceedingly susceptible to cancer; the more they undergo this cycle of self-repair, the more likely they are to pick up a mutation that will lead to cancer.

"Although it has yet to be proven, Seasonale should offer the same protective effect against ovarian cancer that is provided by oral contraceptives currently in use," says Dr. Barbara Vanderhyden, an ovarian cancer researcher at the Ottawa Regional Cancer Centre."

Regardless of this potential health benefit, I see nothing healthful in dealing with the type of periods that I get.  Taking Seasonale has completely eliminated my perimenopausal symptoms and made my life much, much better.

FOR ME, that is healthy.


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It seems that B's ár áthe only types that can probably handle the pill then; by the looks of it ...


NOOOOOOO

I have told this story before - but here it goes again.
When I was 20-21 I lived in Dublin: Contraception was really a bother to get- due to their strick catholic laws- and irish boys might be cute- but was in general really ignorate when it came to sex- so after a while I gave up on the condoms-
I had a steady boyfriend with no prior sexpartners....
Went to the doctor got checked - I was healthy. slim and fit for fight....
No history of blodclots in family etc...
Got on the pill- lost my interest in sex, had yeast infections, put on weight - and finally a blod clot in my arm.....
Doctors at the hospital told me to get off it straight away !
My blodpressure was suddely skyhigh- used to be perfect...
Today 14 years and a baby later- I am in no /lowrisk of blodclots - my blodpressure was a month ago: 115/70 - and I would never touch the pill again!!!

Ps And it was modern low dose pills.


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Most women who take the pill for years seem to be able to get pregnant when they stop.  The women in my family have not been so fortunate.  I took the pill for 1 year.  When I stopped the pill, my periods didn't come back.  It was 2 years before I was normal again.  Eventually I did have a baby.  A sister was on the pill for longer - 5 years, I guess.  Her hormones never recovered.  
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