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Janet
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Thanks for that link C_sharp but I think it is still the Vit C - which I can't take, there's no mention of rose hip.


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Well, I've just searched a little on google/msn looking for a Rose hip/rutin/bioflavonoids combination....have found some...but how do I know they're a reliable source??


I just did a quick Google search for Rose Hips Vitamin C.  I checked out the first 50 items, and all but one ended up being for vitamin C WITH Rose Hips.  This means that the bulk of the capsule will most likely be ascorbic acid that is corn based, with some rose hips added. Even the buffered vitamin C products out there are corn based.  There was one product that looks like it is all rose hips, but they don't provide an ingredient list that I could find, nor do they tell you how many mg of actual vit C the supplement provides.  The 580 mg. that they list, looks like the quantity of rose hips in the capsule, not the amount of vit C.  If I were going to consider buying a product like this, I would communicate with the seller, and ask a lot of questions.  

http://www.femhealth.com/RoseHips.html

My other concern with using rose hips, in the form of tea, or dried in bulk, is that the vit. C content quickly diminishes with time, especially if the product is exposed to light and/or air.  I don't know how much of the good stuff you will actually be getting unless you eat them fresh, or harvest them yourself, shade dry and immediately put them into small glass jars in a dark space.



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Victoria, many thanks for that link - yes it looks promising but I have to be sure before ordering anything.

I've emailed them with my exact needs and asked some questions, so hopefully will get a reply next week.

Other than that - it could be 'heavy' on the brocolli!!!!


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Please let us know what you find out, Janet.  Many people are, like you, looking for a good source of vitamin C that is not from corn, and is preferably Rose Hips based.

Anyone who can eat bell peppers, check out Complex C, by Mega Food.  The vit c comes from rose hips and acerola.  One tablet contains 250 mg of C, plus a good amount of bioflavanoids.



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There is Synergy's Pure Radiance C 100% natural whole food vitamin C product too.


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Quoted from ironwood55
There is Synergy's Pure Radiance C 100% natural whole food vitamin C product too.


It's a pretty impressive product in many ways.  Have you taken it?




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Wow MoDon...that looks like the one for me!! I can even buy on line from the UK - it's quicker than the US.
Thanks, any thoughts on the product??


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Quoted from Victoria
It's a pretty impressive product in many ways.


yes it does and I'd be interested in knowing if anyone has used it and the results, as well. I too, like Janet, have a big bottle of C - only to find out its from corn.    Hopefully I can return it. Won't be so easy for Janet.    



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No, I have not used the Pure Radiance C product.

I have been aware of the company for few years and like what I read about them on their website.


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Looks like I could be the guinea pig???


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Looks like I could be the guinea pig???


I'll guinea pig w/ you if you'd like.  



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The product sounds even better than MegaFood Complex C, which is the one I take.  Complex C has orange peel and bell peppers which are avoids for some types.

The Pure Radiance C does have black pepper, which I'd like to find out a bit on how they process it.  Also there are buckwheat sprouts.  Sprouts are great, but if any are left unsprouted, some of us would be getting an avoid in the buckwheat, also maybe gluten.  ??

I really like the idea of getting vitamin C from multiple sources, as in Camu Camu, Acerola Cherry, and Rose Hips, also with the addition of other fruits and vegetables for the balanced bioflavanoids.  It's so hard to find an excellent product without any avoids in them.  I wish NAP would make a good compliant Vitamin C/bioflavanoid product, and with a high enough dose.



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Quoted from Victoria
I wish NAP would make a good compliant Vitamin C/bioflavanoid product, and with a high enough dose.

Why don't you send NAP a message suggesting that.  


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Good idea, comrade!  

And if anyone else on the Forum wanted to send a similar message, perhaps the request would pack more power.  



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They're on their way........................


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I did email NAP with my request for a good vitamin C product that is free from corn, and containing any or all of camu camu, acerola berry and rose hips.  Meanwhile I have continued to search for a non-corn source, yet high potency, vit. C product with no avoids for any blood type.  

I like Camu, and was reading about it at THIS  site .  It is not tested yet, so I am treating it as a neutral.  I emailed and asked about the potency of the Camu powder, and received this answer today.  It's a very respectable amount:

"Hello Victoria,
About 20% on this batch. That is what the testing showed. So 1/4 teaspoon about 500mg of Camu (typical capsule full) would have 120 mg of pure C (200% of the RDA).

Wishing you abundant health,

Jeff
Natural Zing
301-703-4116"



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Pure Radiance looks great!  It says it is gluten free. I've had vitamin C from New Chapter with long pepper in it and it always caused me a bit of stomach trouble.  Perhaps taking the supplement with in the right type of meal would help.  

Check out these food sources for Vitamin C:

http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=nutrient&dbid=109

Let's say you start the day with fresh lemon juice in warm water (1/4 cup has 28 mg of vitamin C), then have 1 cup of steamed kale for lunch (53 mg), 1 cup of steamed broccoli at dinner (123 mg), Type A okay snack of 1/2 cup cantaloupe (33 mg), strawberries (40) or 1 whole kiwi fruit (57 mg), etc.  Buckwheat is a good source of rutin for Type A's along with fennel bulb.  So let's see....that's about 247 not including the parsley, romaine, avocado, pumpkin and other sources you ate during the day.  Well above the daily recommended as listed here:  http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=nutrient&dbid=109#pubrecs

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Rose hips supplement in solid extract form:

http://www.dadamo.com/bloggers/otd/archives/00000320.htm
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Certain varieties of Rosa were selected for higher Vitamin C.
Dog Rose, Wild Briar {Rosa canina} is apparently the highest.

Rutin is a Biofavonoid from Buckwheat and Rhubarb {Rheum sp.}


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All sounds right up my street!! can't wait!!


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Quoted from Schluggell
Rutin is a Biofavonoid from Buckwheat and Rhubarb {Rheum sp.}


as rhubarb is an avoid for eveyone, would it be such a good idea to be consuming a Vit C containing same? Are buckwheat and rhubarb the only 2 sources of rutin bioflavonoid?



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Buckwheat is related to rhubarb.


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For a simple vitamin C product, we may need to go with single ingredient sources, like the Camu powder, linked in post #39.

Also, a source for the Solid Rose Hips Extract, now called Hipex, is HERE.  This site charges no shipping costs.  I have emailed them to find out the full ingredient list in the extract.  They have told me the potency is 160 mg per teaspoon.

This is compared to the Camu powder (no other ingredients), which is 120 mg. per 1/4 tsp.



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For those who want to get all your vit. C from food only, HERE is a link to a another good chart showing vitamin C content in foods.



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Quoted from pkarmeier
...Are buckwheat and rhubarb the only 2 sources of rutin bioflavonoid?

There are other sources, but those were the first researched to have that constituent.
There is nothing magical about 'Bioflavonoids' - there are thousands, but only a very few have been studied for nutritional merit. 'Flavonoids' are the tart/sour flavours of roots and barks...

Better sources of Vitamin C for medicinal use would be:

  • Australian Bushtucker fruit: Billygoat, or Kakadu plum, Murunga {Terminalia ferdinandiana - Combretaceae}
  • CamuCamu, Cacari {Myrciaria dubia - Myrtaceae}
  • the oft cited, on this forum, Wolfberry.


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