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DK_19
Sunday, June 25, 2006, 6:02pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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I keep reading that Glutathione might help my conditions.  

Does anyone know if it as it been tested for this diet?

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ISA-MANUELA
Sunday, June 25, 2006, 6:10pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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helloooo dear
what's your concern  Gluthadione or red. Gluthadione is a good detoxy-material ,and seems a good
adaptogen in cases of diabetics,too
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DK_19
Sunday, June 25, 2006, 6:16pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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diabetes, Epstein-Barr
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ISA-MANUELA
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Lolaaa...the hoot


and what's about chromium picolinat & some vanadium in case of diabetes
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DK_19
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chromium picolinate is an Avoid for Type A

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diana k,

reduced glutathione seems to be a good antioxidant but since the molecule is too large, it does not penetrate membranes - where many a fatigue problem originate are cells' inards, so having extra-cellular antioxidant help is usually limited.  A better choice is likely NAC(N-acetyl-cysteine), but since A's don't do well on L-glutamine either ... it may be better to supplement with glutamic acid instead.  Option: the herb milk thistle.

Another way of doing this may be to use a form of alpha lipoic acid that is better then what is normally supplied ... alpha lipoic acid is ALA ... its potassium salt is K-ALA .... it is also a racemate-specific molecule known as r-ALA .... combining them, you get K-r-ALA ... http://www.bulknutrition.com/?products_id=1724
[ALA has the effect of increasing glutathione 60%. (ref:www.lef.org)]

There are other strategies to try, if this doesn't pan out ....

good luck

John


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ISA-MANUELA
Monday, June 26, 2006, 8:43pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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diana k, where did you got this info ... it is not even mentioned in the diabetes book
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Personally, I see no reason why chromium should be taken in the kind of amounts that are being recommended by the various hawkers of chromium products. The research behind its use in weight loss is not very good (so it helps 18 year-old high school football players to gain a slight bit of muscle mass and lose a bit of fat; What does this have to do with the millions of obese middle aged, sedentary people who are taking it to "burn off weight".

Picolenic acid is a binding ligand which is commonly used in laboratories to introduce carcinogens into cell cultures. Who is to say that it can't do the same in people taking humungous doses of chromium picolenate?

GTF is found in foods in trace amounts, as is chromium. When people are told to take macro amounts of what is a normally a micro nutrient in nature, I get nervous. Also, I get repulsed at the idea that so many obese people get the message that the solution to their problems is in a bottle.

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Can't recall where I saw it -- maybe in the "Eat Right ..." book?  That and the food lists are all that I have read about this diet.

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Looolllaaaa,,, I knew it, you are the *gem* thanks I didn't saw this text,hmmm very
interessant........................what shall I do with patients lacking just both of materials


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sorry, sorry it was my fault, didn't meant chrom.pic. but chromium GTF (HVPchelate)
100mcg & element. Vanadium citrate  25mcg sorry again, ok I'll use it also in future, no picolinate  

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Another way of doing this may be to use a form of alpha lipoic acid that is better then what is normally supplied ... alpha lipoic acid is ALA ... its potassium salt is K-ALA .... it is also a racemate-specific molecule known as r-ALA .... combining them, you get K-r-ALA ... http://www.bulknutrition.com/?products_id=1724
[ALA has the effect of increasing glutathione 60%. (ref:www.lef.org)]

John,

I talked to a representative at Geronova yesterday and then ordered some of their products. Karen, the rep. I talked to, said that they do not recommend the K-RALA or Na-RALA dry powdered salt versions of their product line anymore, but still sell them. They would like to phase them out because the newer products are so much better.

I ended up ordering the a bottle of the R-PLUS and Liquid R-lipoic acid: K-RALA-10 to try. The two products have different application due to their different absorption profiles. The R-PLUS has slower, sustained absorption and the liquid K-RALA-10 apparently reaches maximum plasma concentrations very quickly (Karen told me she could feel it within about 5 minutes). Therefore the R-Plus is good for standard daily scheduled supplementation prior to meals and the liquid K-RALA-10 would be good for things like prior to working out or maybe a diabetic sugar problem that needs quick attention.


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ty very much MoDon,

actually got very interested in another product at this site - http://www.geronova.com/tbha.htm

John


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I didn't ask about the NtBHA compound since they don't offer it in any product in their online store.


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right you are ............... seems to be experimental just now (maybe in a few years!) ....... the article is very intriguing personally and seems to directly address many of the continuing problems with my disease.  I don't anticipate a 'cure', but hope to find kind-off spectacles-for-weak-vision.  This chemical will not 'cure' me, but it may fix my problems so I can live normally.

John


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I suggest you email them and ask any questions you have and ask about availability.


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