Well, bowel-wise I did not experience any pain while taking it, only not as good of bm's as I normally have.  Yet, I did experience the same reaction from eating ghee, so I am assuming it has something to do with fat processing possibly.  Anyway, I am much better today, the rash between my fingers, on my hands, and the itching of my legs and torso is much better, less pronounced, and my lips are almost back to normal.  I noticed that my son was a bit itchy too, and I had given it to him as well for the last few days.  I noticed his lips a bright red yesterday too.  So, I stopped that this a.m.  

Been taking the tyrosine, glutamine, and Seacure and I think they are really helping me though.  I haven't had cravings hardly at all.  Oh, and I got some Deflect O and started that.  My appetite seems less with it.  

Dr. D, could it be the fat assimilation problem in some individuals causing this?  Candida issues too, maybe?  Like a BAD die off reaction!

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Dr. D, could it be the fat assimilation problem in some individuals causing this?  Candida issues too, maybe?  Like a BAD die off reaction!

Could be a Hexheimer type reaction.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herxheimer_Reaction

Didn't give my son the Intrinsa this a.m. but I noticed tonight that he has developed a rash on his legs as well, just like the one on my hands.  The calf and shins of his legs.  Red, itchy, eczema like rash.  His lips were red today too.  Guess it will have to wear off of his body as well...

NAP keeps a record of all problems with their products. I've asked them to let me know that the record for Intrinsa is so far. When I find out I'll post it back here.

This is what Jon Humberstone, our head of customer service replied:

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Other than comments about the smell, and a very few comments about  getting an upset stomach when taking it without food (this is a comment we get from certain sensitive people on any supplement,
really), we have had no other negative Intrinsa complaints that we are aware of.

Should we be calling NAP whenever we have a problem with their supplements?  I haven't  been doing it.  I just throw them out.

throw them out??
why not keep being compliant sticking to the plan and then trying again?

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throw them out??
why not keep being compliant sticking to the plan and then trying again?

I don't do well with supplements that have herbs and food type things in them in general.  Live Cell was another big problem for me.  And I have never been able to eat any of the bars without problems.  Sometimes I retry things, but that's risky since I may react even more strongly the second or third times.  It's safer to just throw them away.  There are also Beneficial, even Super Beneficial foods, that I can't tolerate, no matter how compliant I am, which is about 99% for over ten years.
As we know from the BTD diet, one size doesn't fit all, sometimes even when it's BT specific.

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Should we be calling NAP whenever we have a problem with their supplements?  I haven't  been doing it.  I just throw them out.

Well, yes. You should alert every manufacturer.

Quoted from cindyt

Should we be calling NAP whenever we have a problem with their supplements?  I haven't  been doing it.  I just throw them out.

Perhaps save them for a friend/family member/relative who may need it in the future.  

Also, your body dynamics may change in time, thus having a different reaction to certain supplements in the future.  

I believe most of the NAP supplements have a two year expiration date.

Alia