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N acetyl glucosamine is what is in Deflect and is what you take to fend off some of the bad effects of avoids on your system. It's a sacrificial molecule sort of. Glucosamine Sulfate is for joint health. They really are two different things. Jane |
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| ISA-MANUELA |
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 but only in the O's package...  in ours it was mentioned about some lecker-lecker chondroitin I've several products for testings....but sorry didn't pay that of attention, did allways what massr Peter told in his books  sauf with MSM...this fits to everybody  |
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>>>N acetyl glucosamine is what is in Deflect and is what you take to fend off some of the bad effects of avoids on your system. It's a sacrificial molecule sort of. Glucosamine Sulfate is for joint health. They really are two different things. Jane>>>
I want to address Jane's comment about N acetyl glucosamine only being used in Deflect. In Dr. Dadamo's Complete Blood type Encyclopedia, he lists N acetyel glucosamine for Type O to be used in the Arthritis Protocol.
And after reading this thread is: Is NAG better for us O+Secretors than the MSM Glucosamine combo?
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| Willow |
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I have a question... I'm allergic to shellfish and my understanding is that chondroitin is a shellfish derivative. What's an A to do???  |
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how about some bone soup or broth from compliant sources instead? |
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| Willow |
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Thank you, Lola. I know so little about chondroitin (except that it makes me itch and my joints swell and stiffen if I use the shellfish derivative).
I did not know about "bone soup," but I imagine it would help. I'll give that a try.
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| njdiva1 |
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Quoted from cherylhcmba
I tell type O friends that haven't had any benefit from glucosamine/chondroitin mixed supplements (and I don't know anyone that it has helped) to give glucosamine alone a try. The chondroitin would negate any benefit of the glucosamine.
My physical rehab doctor said the same thing. It is only the glucosamine that your body utilizes. Condroitin is merely voided in urine. |
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Hi janet! I have arthritis in my fingers, too. I took glucosamine three month ago - it was wonderful. Hands don`t ache already. I advice it. good luck  |
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| chaton94 |
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Hello, i 'm sad  because there is no French translation of the book "Arthritis, fight it with the Blood Type Diet" I have a rare disease which started at 20 years: the chondromalacie; it is a softening of all the cartilages of my body, in more i don't have the right to take more than 5 kilos so not my knees and ankles make me very badly! The doctors discovered my disease at 30 years, I have 31 of them! Since I began BDT, I stopped the drug of my rumatologist because there was chondroitine! Since I do not have more pains as before (some of my articulations were blocked) but I have still badly sometimes! has somebody positive effects of the drugs for arthritis on the site abovie? thank you in advance |
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Bonjour, Chaton94, don't be too sad, soon Tomatilla Isa will see your note here, she knows French and can talk to you tres bien. Lola is tres bien at finding answers for our questions. When she sees this, she will help. More helpful people, too, so smile a little.... My guess for you is no wheat, rye, oats, corn/maize, tomatoes, pommes des terres,...maybe no milk or cheese, either. Sorry I'm not knowledgable about your rare disease... Bon chance, sorry I know very little French. |
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| ISA-MANUELA |
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halloo....à l'huile  je suis là....  chaton avez vous essailler avec glucosamine sulphate? Chondroitin is an absolut no-no for you, the O's! et meme le MSM n'est pas mal du tout mais je crois que Peter mentioned que le meilleur doit-etre Glucosamine sulfate, moi j'aime bien travailler aussi avec Celadrine, de Natural Factors, marche bien surtout avec les nonnies ...... |
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| chaton94 |
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Hello or good evening (I do not know with the shift horaire!)Tomatilla, I note "Celadrine", I saw it on Internet; I didn't try glucosamine sulphate
I will ask before my doctor if there is not another drug without chondroitine refunded by the French social security, that will make me economies!
Thank 's a lot!
Es tu inscrites sur le forum français?; tu peux t'insrire, c'est plus facile pour moi d'écrire là bas pour moi?
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| ISA-MANUELA |
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Je l'ai essayer une fois, cela n'a guere macher pour moi, je ne sais pas pourqupoi exactement, mais je ne l'avais pas acces pour le forum francais |
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| the_accidental_chef |
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Oh dear, I've been taking Glucosamine Chondritin M.S.M for a while now. It's a Bioscience product. In the recommended daily dosage of 2 tablets there is 1000mg glucosamine sulphate, 800mg chondritin and 750mg M.S.M. It has actually helped my knee joints. Ever since reading this thread I've stopped taking the tablets. The popping is back and so's the stiffness after resting my legs. Any O non secretors exhibiting problems? Dont know what to do really. I take Bromelain & Deflect regularly...but it was G-C-MSM which really gave me relief for the knees. What shall I do  ? |
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find glucosamine alone. |
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Lola...bone or broth soup from compliant sources...Would turkey bone soup/broth have chondroitin sulfate and glucosamine sulfate in it? Turkey is a neutral source for all blood types (Beneficial for A non-secretors)  I got a bunch of turkey legs at the store after Christmas & have a big pot of stock going. Wish it were organic turkey (or wild caught - someday soon!) then there would be less question of their hormone/antibiotic treatment. All I know is turkey soup makes me feel good. |
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and also lots of tryptophan! |
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| allthingsintime |
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Do not take chondroitin if you are an O it is very bad for us. Ask Dr D. He says it is like a bad blood transfusion and I can testify to that. If you want a real bad break out of thrush throughout take some chondroitin. I cant remember being so crook, just a few tablets set me back months of BTD good works. Cheers John.
wow that explains so much when my new supplements arrived I started taking them all dutifully every day. And at the same time added in the glucosamine/chondroitin and MSM pills that I'd bought but never taken religiously after just a few days I've gained 4 pounds (realy thought I'd have lost witht eh deflect and the fucus!) and the candida is BAD but i had just been attributing that to the gluten free, o compliant, but still full of sugar christmas baking I did... duh well away with those giant size bottles of ineffective joint remedies for me! |
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Sounds like MSM is geat for o's. How much do we take on a daily basis? Also I am allergic to sulfa (Pharmaceutical) would MSM effect me the same way? I have taken joint compounds before..Osteo bi or tri flex brand(?)without any visible reactions.  |
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