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ISA-MANUELA
Saturday, September 24, 2005, 5:36am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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no p-john.... Natural Factors' products are indeed mostly BTD compatible and not that
expensive at all ..have a look for them at the american or canadian sites, even the canadians are less expensive   and for the Canadian citizens........
if you purchase them at canadian vitamin...bla..bla bla.... its mostly less expensive...
oooo mann they are much better then all swiss products... nothing in what is against
BTD-rules !!!!
sorry I didn't wanted to do any publicities for anything or anybody... buth true still is truth...and ok for that I just let gooooo your left ear...did ya feel it


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some 15 can.$ =

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Found it thank you ISA. Have not looked over the site yet but have set it so that I can go back later. Cheers John.


 
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I am currently waiting for my bottle of Lorna Vanderhaeghe Celadrin to arrive.  I have used another brand and didn't notice a whole lot of difference, however, I've just started BTD as well.  I work at WFs in Canada and just took Lorna's training on Celadrin.  She's working on a cream that doesn't have the menthol in it as she gave some to a little girl and it cleared up her eczema.  I've used topical Celadrin (sold by AVON, can you believe it!! kewl) and it helped alleviate my arthritis in my hands a little.  I enjoyed reading her book on inflammation...found it very eye opening.
As I'm new here, I hope posting brand names etc. isn't against the rules.
I'm currently vacationing in FL and I've really upped my exercise ... thanks for the reminder about Arnica and the info on MSM ... boy do I need it  


A New Sponge on the Block ... so much to learn.

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Colleen,
best ant-inflammatory there is is BTD!!!!

so my suggestion to you is,stay away from 'avoids'........that also helps! )
welcome!


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I keep telling myself that, Lola... I've mastered all the food avoids.. my  only downfall is coffee with real sugar... a LOT!!  but I've been off of it for about 3 weeks now , so I know I can do it.  Today was especially hard because I had to get up at 5am to take my daughter to an out of town event... I would have LOVED some coffee for the road.. she's an A, so   she got to have some.  I stuck to my green tea.. plain... and I know I am better off in the long run.  I am still hoping  the arthritis in my knees will improve over time.... I'm doing physical therapy, too, and my physical  therepist is a die hard believer in the BTD.. he loves that I'm all into it, as well.  As always, I look forward to any tips anyone has on  O's and arthritis..

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Quoted from cybrsheri
I look forward to any tips anyone has on  O's and arthritis..


Have you read Dr. D's Arthritis book?

http://www.dadamo.com/napharm/BTstore/BTSstore.pl?user_action=detail&catalogno=ED018



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yes, sam... bought it and I'm following it .. every part of it....but it's only been about two and a half weeks since I gave up the coffee and sugar for good.  I'm hoping a bit more time will show more results... thanks


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Give it some time. I think you will see some improvement. Your body may take months or even years to totally adjust to the benefits of the BTD.

Good for you that you are giving up the coffee.  I have heard many people say they had significant improvement of various health problems after finally giving up coffee on the type O BTD.


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well, but what about the sugar?? I like green tea ok, but I like it MUCH BETTER with real sugar and soy milk... but I am  not doing that because I feel the sugar will aggrivate the arthritis.... what do you think about that???

wait wait wait.. lol.. I  already know the answer.. sugar is bad bad bad.. oh well.. it was worth a try!
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to mikey-o, isa-m, and others for your advice on this thread.

I just had arthroscopic cartilage repair in left hip last week, and doc says there's a "little softening" in posterior area..."expect arthritis in 10-15 years"....doesn't that mean I have it now?  He recommended glucosamine/chondroitin.  Now I will look for the supp that mikeo recommends...

I'm mid-40's now...and am wondering if I can reverse this news by LR4YT?
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yes, glucosamine alone is better suited for you.....


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lola, glucosamine-sulphate ?? yup
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that would be one, yes Isa.)


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Thanks, guys.....

Just returned from my Super Orthopod...told him about this way of life, website...and the advice from this thread. Wanted to make sure that he knew there was a concern with Chondriotin for his Type O patients (except in topical per mikeo)...said he didn't know of this, but heard of ER4YT.
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Rosie,

My husband is an orthopod.. I'm educating him all the time about the BTD and all the things that work and don't work for different blood types

I think he was skeptical for awhile, but he's seen so many positive changes  in me that I really think I might eventually win him over.  I am seeing a physical therapist for a knee injury.  This therapist believes in the BTD %100, and says with the right therapy and following the diet, I may be up and running again.  I am currently following the  BTD for arthritis in D.  D's special book on arthritis.
My goad is to prove to my husband that with the right diet, patients go a long way towards healing themselves!
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the word needs spreading!!! )
good job, Rosie!


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Rosie,

My husband is an orthopod.. I'm educating him all the time about the BTD and all the things that work and don't work for different blood types

I think he was skeptical for awhile, but he's seen so many positive changes  in me that I really think I might eventually win him over.  I am seeing a physical therapist for a knee injury.  This therapist believes in the BTD %100, and says with the right therapy and following the diet, I may be up and running again.  I am currently following the  BTD for arthritis in D.  D's special book on arthritis.
My goad is to prove to my husband that with the right diet, patients go a long way towards healing themselves!


Hey Sheri!

Awesome!! That is the way to convince people, by letting them experience the positive changes in their own body by adhering to the BTD.
Sheri, I am impressed, keep up the good work! Like a (olive)stain we are spreading the good news!!!

Take care and stay well!
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My goad is to prove to my husband that with the right diet, patients go a long way towards healing themselves!


Sher-iiii!
Thank you for this and for what you are doing...so much appreciated by all of us. I pray that people will know/learn that diet is not a choice, like Dr. D said. God gave a little map to each of us...for our best health on earth.

I'll keep you posted on my hip recovery (victory!) as the months pass along...

Many thanks,
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ha! ha!  I meant goal... instead of "goad".... how do you amend things, anyway?

Rosie:.. best of luck to you...!!!!!


Think how much healthier people would be if  physicians followed diet prescriptions ALONG with their traditional medical prescriptions  ( if needed)..

unfortunately, everyone wants a quick fix.. a pill.... to get better....and so many people don't have the will power to improve their diets...so sad...
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I have a little difficulty in deciphering the difference between the Glucosamines.

NAG  N-acetyl glucosamine.

Glucosamine sulfate.

The encyclopedia seems to get these two mixed up and confuses the issue on which is best for O's and A's.

Can somebody help clear this up for us. Cheers John.


 
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I believe both forms are ok, john.)


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here s a quote by DR D:
''chondroitin that is the problem in Os

The reason?

If we were to analyze the structure of chondroitin we would see that it is actually long polymers (chains) of a repeating sugar, n-acetyl galactosamine.

N-acetyl galactosamine is the blood group A antigen.

Thus by consuming large amounts of chondroitin, type O's are inadvertently provoking their immune system with constant doses of what amounts to an incorrect blood transfusion!

Glucosamine doesn't do this, in fact glucosamine helps block many lectins, including wheat germ lectin. This may be more important to the healing of the arthritis found in many type O's than what the conventional thinking tells us about how glucosamine works.''


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Does anybody know if a combo of MSM, glucosamine sulfate and chondroitin sulfate is beneficial for AB's?
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Hey Gandalf!

I do not think this combo you mention would cause any problems for an AB.
You had better check your Bloodtype sis Isa for exact advice!!

How tall are you Gandalf??? As tall as Gandalf in the Lord of the Rings

Nice name!

Did you receive my mail today?

Take care

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Hi Cocky,

you're probably right....I should ask Isa! Don't know exactly how tall I am but I guess more less 182-183cm.
Yes, I received your email and I am about to answer it. I still have a few questions concerning shipping etc, but I'll write you an email for more details...

Cheers
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