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Hi Glenn,

There is a small worm found in salmon that most people cannot detect.  Only an expert sushi chef can notice the subtle difference.  If eaten, this worm can make a gut much worse, so I would have some problems with raw fish.  On the other hand, Australian aborigonies may have some eating of raw meat?????????

The proper kind of honey alters the structure of some sugars and would make it a growth medium for candida.  The unheated honey acts as a protectant for us .... as it does for bees.  In this way I assume it is anti-candida.

However, because you are going home=changing seasons ... you may not get as much punch from your strategies as you would like. ... colostrum >> Spring ... early honey + SBO's >> summer ... clover honey + herbs >> Autumn .... late honey + FOS +ARA6 >> winter .... late honey? ketosis + SBO's ...

re. honey - contact Henriette Bsec also on this board ... she's from Norway too!
re. SBO's are soil-based-organisms ... because probiotics are the same size as candida ... they do the best job ... (from a medical professor) http://www.thewolfe clinic./flora.html
re. the FOS ... are fructoliggosaccharides (no wonder they call this FOS) they seem to feed the good acidophilus ... and they in turn get rid of the candida ... in the intestinal tract.  The ARA6t does a similar job to the microbes in the colon.  They also do a number on candida.

So while traveling SBO's may make things a bit more even for you ... honey (like most supplements) tend not to be taken during transitions,  so the SBO's will cover you there + they are great anti-candida anytime!


John


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Thanks john

I've still got some time before heading north again though, about 2 months..

hmm.. not sure if i understood the SBO stuff or not.. SBOs are better than probiotics because they're smaller than the candida, right? (it's not that probiotics is a sort of SBOs?)

And I've been wondering about how the season theory a bit, since i'll be leaving here when summer sets in and from that to winter in norway.. :/


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Hi Glenn,

SBO's are probiotics.  A rouge guage about how many species of bacteria make-up an adult person's flora is @400.  These are by no means an equally-divided 400.  So NAP'S is better than most with 5.  SBO's are a range/collection of unusual flora bacteria that are highly anti-candida.  They also do a number of jobs in healing the wall of the gut that has been very helpful to some.

Sorry, I think Henriette lives in Denmark, not Norway!  If you'd like to give the honey a try ... some comb-honey should be at a hfs in Australia ... maybe you can get some late-honey sent to your home in Norway by Henriette ... so it'll be waiting for you when you arrive ...
The honey I'm taking, continues to heal my gut ... almost finished ... seems more than half done with the fistulation too .... also seems to have reduced my sciatic neuropathy about 90% .... am really pleased and hope this continues.

John


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Hey

You've had a fistulation problem as well?


Okei, that's it, i'm out looking for that honey

If it can help fix my fistulation and maybe even stop some of that bleeding it would be wonderful..

How much do you take of that honey and how do you take it? Did you say you just place it under yout tongue for absorbtion or something?


Thanks again, now I'm really geared to get a hold of that honey.


*Out hunting*


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Okei.

I'm back from my shopping.

Not sure if I got the right sort of honey or not. It doesn't actually say "unheated" on it anywhere, but I couldn't that anywhere :/

What I ended up with is Manuka Honey - Active UMF 20+
"Comvita UMF 20+ Active Manuka Honey is guaranteed to be at least UMF 20+ and has been verified by an independent tesing laboratory to have exceptional levels of antibacterial activity.

Only some Manuka honeys from New Zealand have the special UMF activity, which has now gained a worldwide reputation for its value in the maintenance of digestive health."

Think I've got the right thing here or will it specifically say unheated on it?


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Regarding raw fish used for sushi, here in the US, nearly all fish used for sushi in restaurants was frozen before use.  Consumer Reports did testing.  They got sushi from several restaurants, and brought it back to the lab.  Some samples showed parasites but they were all dead due to the freezing.  So, to be safe from parasites, ask the restaurant if they freeze the fish first.
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Interesting

I read on another forum some posts from a person following the spartan health regime, he claimed to be eating raw meat and said that he usually just froze the meat before taking it out and letting it reach roomteperature before eating it raw.. So do you think freezing it will work for both fish and meat? And do the fish and meat keep its nutritious values etc when frozen?


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Hi Glenn,

Give Manuka a shot to see if it helps ... your hfs may not have the honey you want yet because it is still very early in spring there.  A local bee keeper might be able to help you out ...at least tell you when the new comb-honey is available locally.

re. The freezing - great idea ... all microbes are killed by our freezing weather in our winter.  My brother (then in Peru) said there was an amoeba in the soil & local-food of Peru, that infected many Canadians ... very similar to a virus.  This wasn't in Canadian soil/food because our winter had killed all these organisms.  The polyamine issue only comes about if the process is flash-freezing, normal freezing will not create polyamines.

John


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So you reckon this trick will make it possible for us to safely eat raw meat?

How much and how often do you take the honey?
On my manuka honey it says to take 1-2 teaspoon 30 min before meals..


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Hi Glenn,

It sure seems like a very good possibility.  Even organ meats may be good for this ... they can be extremely hard to make into jerky.  ... maybe run this by one of your biochemistry lab profs first ... he/she may have additional insights????

re. the honey ... sounds good!  Additionally try a very little on the fistulation.  It only needs a very short time to work ... @5min.  ... very sticky ... just remove with a damp cloth.  {this is also supposed to work on hair ... but have not tried this!} Good luck!

John


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What about royal jelly?  Does that have any protective/digestive properties?  I think it keeps forever if not heated, but I may be wrong.  (I just remembered that I have some, and wondered if it might be another anti-candida item.)
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I saw some royal jelly today that said not to take it if you had any allergies, which sounded a bit strange?

Think someone has mentioned royal jelly on the forum here before though as good for something, can't remember if it was candida or what..


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Hi folks,

Royal Jelly is touted as a great gut healer.  I would assume it has strong anti-candida properties.  Never heard of an allergy connection ... to me it means to start slowly and see if it'll cause a bad reaction ... there are some people who have extreme sensitivities to bee venom - these people are also allergic to ANY bee product.

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Ah. okei

The royal jelly sure looks nice.. a bit chewy I guess? (which I like..) ..so if that can be good for us.. hmm.

Anything special to look out for when buying royal jelly?


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Sorry Glenn,

don't know very much about it ...

but just remembered the article about raw foods.  He eats raw meat .... and he seems to blend everything with unheated honey.  Could this honey be blended with first-frozen meat?  Wonder?????????

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Hmm.. Can you repost that raw foods link? ..not sure if it's still around on the forum.

I'll go do a search.

Anyways, you mean you would add the unheated honey when the frozen meat has made it back to room temperature, right?

How much honey do you think?

How's the price on the unheated honey you buy?
..the manuka honey thing i got was really expensive.. :s

Picturing the raw meat and honey mixture actually looks/sounds kinda good.,. hmm, sure sounds interesting

I really want to give the raw meat a try, just still scared about any possible illnesses etc we've been told that you can get by eating raw meat or meat that's not been fried/grilled/warmed enough etc..


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Ah, nevermind about that link, found it on this very thread, first page


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On the first thread page there was some discussion of the candida spit test.  Can someone explain this to me?  


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On the first thread page there was some discussion of the candida spit test.  Can someone explain this to me?  



Candida spit test explained

BTD Forums Candida Spit Test Thread #2

BTD forums Candida Spit Test Thread #1


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