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Goldie
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I am doing low carb to accomplish all sort of things.  It seems relatively easy to do after all the other years of trying to do all sort of other weight-loss programs.  I am way less hungry with the reduction to just meat and some vegetables.  The longer I am on this way of restrictive eating, the less hungry/craving I deal with.  It is becoming a comfortable way to eat.

I lost 12 pounds, and have more to go.  I am happy to report that my waistline is down by one inch.  Today my sugar number was 40 points lower than other days.  

I see this way low carb eating as the way to force my body to absorb fat from someplace inside of me.  I see it as even possible that 'it' has to reduce 'small particles' I wrote about in another thread.  I am at the very least expecting health numbers to improve and to feel less bothered by wanting this or that.

I would be pleased if others chime in here and report their experiences, findings and expectations.. It will be especially looking to see what A's B's Ab's are able to eat, and still make it through the day, weeks and month..



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Don't go too low on low carb, as once you get below a certain amount (I think 75-150 grams is the sweet spot, don't go below 75), you start to impact your thyroid. And once that goes, the weight just packs itself back on.

Eat a LOT of veggies, especially the non-cruciferous ones, so that you don't mess your thyroid up.

Also, I found when I went too low, I felt like death. I'm an explorer, though, so maybe I need more carbs. Listen to your body!




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Goldie--I have just gone grain-free in the last week.  My AB/Teacher/SWAMI gives me grains and carbs and I have felt grounded and strong following that diet.  But--I have 15 unwanted pounds on me and have for over a year.  All my life I was tall and thin and could eat whatever I wanted. And I seldom exercised, but gardened and stayed active.  My weight has fluctuated +10 to 15lbs over the years, but I was always able to cut back on sugar and other carbs for a week or two and drop the added weight.  So this prolonged weight gain has me fairly obsessed.  

My ND recently suggested green vitamix concoctions all day long and then a regular dinner--but no spelt. I cannot bring myself to do this.  It's just tough on my system.  I feel weak and spacey.  I remember DrD saying that carbs are a problem for AB's trying to lose weight.  We also need to watch our food combining--ie. protein/carbs.  

So--I'm doing a green veggie drink for breakfast, and have gone grain-free, but otherwise am following my SWAMI.  If I don't get enough calories each day it throws off my thyroid/adrenal function and I can't sleep at night.

I think I'm into day 5 now on grain-free and I do notice a slight decrease in my food cravings.  What I have noticed is that I crave higher fat foods when I go grain-free.  So I have been indulging in more nuts and cheeses.  

I am so happy that the low carb is working so well for you.   Congrats on the weight/inches loss.

I will report back on this thread with any progress/additional input.
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good job with the weight loss, Goldie.

Anyone who wants to eat a low carb diet, be careful you're not going too low.  Your brains require
glucose.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMOjVYgYaG8

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-paleo-diet-half-baked-how-hunter-gatherer-really-eat/


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AB nonnie here...and going for da pilzli's have lost more then 6 Kilos in the last few weeks.... and  no problems with hypoclycemia ... all fresh mushies you can immagine...soo yummy with garlic fresh herbs- onions...some tomatoes...  but nothing else ... ...


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I never went below 40 grams of net carbs per day when I was doing low-carb. I used to be active on a low-carb forum, and the people there who were doing 20g only did so for a short time; a few weeks or months at most, then gradually added back in carbs until they figured out what worked best for them.

However, you're older than me and need fewer overall calories, so maybe you'd do better on  fewer carbs than I do?

If you're going to go the super-low-carb route, I suggest reading "The Atkins Diet" which describes how long to be on "induction" and how to safely add in the carbs later without affecting weight loss.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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ruthie, did you lose weight on that lo-carb route? Maybe it wasn't all about that, but just wondering. I should lose weight and should really be low carb, probably. Grain free helps in that direction, but I don't consciously eat locarb.
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I have played with low carb ever since Thanksgiving 1966, after I gained 10 pounds in my first year marriage.. Low carb served me well then and many times in between.  It is the only way I can eat and not be hungry.  I started with below 60 then, which was considered low then, I think 60 is doable for maintenance without much grief.  But over the years other factors crept up and so This time around I decided to go below to budge the scale which had gotten stuck.

Grain free I have gone decades ago.  I recognized long ago that grains are the same as sugar, the same for soda, juices and all packaged foods.  As I developed diabetes it showed me that starch free was the only way to go.  For two decades I cheated on days when I was not home, and doing that gave me what I needed mentally.  (I reserve the right to have a life)

Now, that I decided again, to go and drop weight once and for all all to the way to my best weight - drop it all in total maybe 50 pds- I am going to stay below 20 carbs until then and  see what I can accomplish.  I had developed diabetes, cancer, heart conditions, all while doing some kind of 'balanced/cheating' eating and I am kissing that good by.  This time there is going to be no cheating.

I am happy with the foods I eat, meat and vegetables, and the smallest of apple I can find, or slice of pineapple.  I am not bothered by food and have the energy I need.

As for 'sugar' my brain needs, yes I might agree that it could be on issue, but the more I research the need for 'carbs' I interpret all as to much converting to sugar... and in the end sugar drains my strength.  I function much better without carbs.  The preoccupation with carbs is a bother and in the end so little sugar is needed that the fruit I eat is enough.  Carrots and other root vegetables could be serving as sugar if needed, but for now I am done with 'carbs' for as long as it takes.

In going below 20 carbs I finally drove my finger stick diabetes numbers down to the range I ought to be, I could not budge them before.  I am looking to make those numbers stay down. In a way I like a challenge, and diabetes is the item that came first in my genetic experience, and diabetes is the one I ought to battle first, so now is my time to do it.  I simply am no longer 'afraid' to push and push hard so long as I am not hungry...

Actually...... one of the years of fears I had, was about not getting energy, or 'needing' carbs for energy.  NOW I found that fixing my heart was what was needed to have the energy I need.  I came to believe for now - that it was the heart-cholesterol 'small particles' that made me feel tired all day!.

I might suggest for anyone battling fatigue, to check out their heart health way earlier than I did.  I can see where carbs actually had little good influence.  It is just possible that my cholesterol is heightened by diabetes, and so low carb for now is my way to battle my line in the sand.  I will drop that weight and see if then I can budge the cholesterol numbers as well.

  


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Quoted from Amazone I.
AB nonnie here...and going for da pilzli's have lost more then 6 Kilos in the last few weeks.... and  no problems with hypoclycemia ... all fresh mushies you can immagine...soo yummy with garlic fresh herbs- onions...some tomatoes...  but nothing else ... ...


Isa--you are eating nothing but mushrooms?  Do I understand you correctly?

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Goldie--I admire your dedication.  

I am going to ask a probably ignorant question--but what do you consider carbs?  Obviously fruit are carbs, but so are vegetables.  I understand grain-free, but low carb leaves what in your diet aside from meat proteins and fats?  I'm struggling with grain-free, and I can't imagine going any lower carb than that.  Of course, I am not an O, so I don't have the luxury of eating much meat.  Perhaps the meat protein provides energy that I am missing.

Today was day 5 of grain-free for me and I must admit I did not feel good.  I slogged my way up the hills on my walk and came back home with that rushing sound in my ears that I hate--along with a headache.  Tonight I broke down and had some brown rice pasta and pesto with my dinner.  I didn't even feel guilty that after only 5 short days I was falling off the wagon.  It just felt too good in my tummy.  Food addiction--maybe.  But I got through days 2-4 fine.  So maybe for me and my ABness I will need to skip grains for a day or so and then have them for a day.  Alternate and see how that goes.

I think it is awesome that you have conquered low carb and feel so good.  Wishing you continued success.
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It's actually pretty easy to do meat, fruit and veggies as an O. Fruits are so incredibly sweet once you're off of sugar.

That being said, when I go that low with the carbs, I tend to get migraines. I need to stay above 75. I tried Atkins once, and the low carb "flu" lasted the full week. It was so bad I couldn't get out of bed in the morning because my muscles felt the same way the did when I hit the "wall" during a half marathon. I knew then I needed more for my enormous leg muscles (I'm a classic Explorer muscle-bound goddess...).




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The journey we all take is our own.. it took me 5 long decades to get where I am.  The issues are our own, we all struggle in our own mind and body.  I NO longer apologize to me for (still) being overweight, having diabetes and all other stuff...... in place: I am proud to have been here all these years and followed as best as I could the BTD and deal with genetics.  I found it worth the trying to do better, every day.

My friend is AB and struggles with the question of protein from meat.  Possibly the solution for her is to be satiated and drop weight and eat some meat she is allowed. She has 60 to go even after a lap band surgery.  She struggles mightily,  but gaining is just not on option for her.

She and I did well enough dropping old fat with HCG, she lost her saddlebag hips and we both learned that it is not the amount of food that satisfies us but the quality.  

For me at 70 I need less than at 65, so low carb is low, very low.  and then also my meat has shrunk some.  Sometimes I eat 2-4 oz and a few green leaves, or a browned onion.  Once a day I eat a small apple with 11 carbs.  YET what is important is not what I can do, or need to do, what is important is each of you finding your own journey, a trip into unknown territory.  We can do it together.  I am braver when other come along with me.

The biggest drag in dieting is Guilt - it builds stress and messes with our intelligence.. Every day is a new day, we owe it to our selves to make the best of it - being happy and loving our own self for who and what we are. Good luck..

(I liked this:     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkdFkPxxDG8
not for everyone .. just different from a lot of others who would add on the should's in guilt when we can not do what they are able to do... This is a no guilt thread!!! no matter how you do what you do. We are all trying together!


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It's actually pretty easy to do meat, fruit and veggies as an O. Fruits are so incredibly sweet once you're off of sugar.

That being said, when I go that low with the carbs, I tend to get migraines. I need to stay above 75. I tried Atkins once, and the low carb "flu" lasted the full week. It was so bad I couldn't get out of bed in the morning because my muscles felt the same way the did when I hit the "wall" during a half marathon. I knew then I needed more for my enormous leg muscles (I'm a classic Explorer muscle-bound goddess...).


Ironically--Meat and fruit and veggies works for me for weight loss.  That's what I've done in the past when not strictly (obviously) following the BTD.  It's been since my near 100% compliance with BT/GT/SWAMI that the weight will not come off. Not logical--I know.

I'm wondering if it isn't harder for some BT's to lose weight than others.  Anyway--health is my main concern, but having an extra 15lbs of fat on my body can't be healthy.

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Susan, does your Swami allow you tofu?  I find it gives me the protein I need first meal, along with nuts and berries. Later in the day lamb, turkey or fish along with veggies is really satisfieing. Brown rice a couple times a week (vegetarian pasta dish) give me no problems like weight gain.

I also find that a little extra stretching and walking each day brings a steady weight loss. The stretching, I think, really optimizes the calorie burn.  I think AB's have a tendency towards metabolic stagnation.

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Protein, healthy fats and veggies are all I eat. Recently diagnosed type 1 diabetic and still find even with injected insulin that protein, healthy fats and veggies are what keeps my blood sugar stable and my insulin needs VERY low (1 unit per meal) I eat no fruit, no starch, no sugar etc. Low carb. 6 at breakfast and 12 for lunch and dinner. I eat 3 huge kale/spinach salads for each meal with EVOO and hummus and for lunch and dinner I add 1 1/2 c cooked and raw veggies. Snacks are nuts/nut butters or some low GI veg. I eat about 60-75 g protein split between the 3 meals and enough fat to satisfy. Low carb, moderate protein and healthy fats to satisfaction. When I was eating 2 measly ounces of sweet potato my blood sugars would be all over the place. Up and down, even with insulin. Low carb, low GI = steady blood sugar. I get the glucose to my brain from ketones, carbs and 58% of protein turns to sugar. I am at a very healthy weight but adding carbs would change that in a hurry. I love my SWAMI but use it mostly as an avoid list. The portions are way out of line for me. Too many carbs, not enough fat.
Hope your health continues to improve Goldie!!


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BTW Goldie,
I love your quote that you reserve the right to live your life!! It is a bit harder when diabetic but it surely can be done, especially when the cravings go away and you know they will. I usually THINK I want the treat more than I actually ENJOY the treat. A bite or two will do me fine and won't wreak havoc, then I'm over it!

Best  of luck!


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I have always had a horror of becoming diabetic. I've seen so many friends and some relatives suffer from it. Especially, those cravings. I start getting nervous if my number gets above  eighty or so.

Years ago I went on a 60 grams per day carb diet and lost weight. But several years later I tried the diet again and thought I was going to absolutely die I was so miserable. I think the "diet" lasted three days that time!! Actually, it was a simple, enjoyable diet to follow, and I used to almost envy people who were so successful with it. Now I know why they were!!


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I'm wondering if it isn't harder for some BT's to lose weight than others.  Anyway--health is my main concern, but having an extra 15lbs of fat on my body can't be healthy.


I am certain that the longer we are on BTD the harder it becomes, works only by retraining the body all over again..

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Protein, healthy fats and veggies are all I eat. Recently diagnosed type 1 diabetic and still find even with injected insulin that protein, healthy fats and veggies are what keeps my blood sugar stable and my insulin needs VERY low (1 unit per meal) I eat no fruit, no starch, no sugar etc. Low carb. 6 at breakfast and 12 for lunch and dinner. I eat 3 huge kale/spinach salads for each meal with EVOO and hummus and for lunch and dinner I add 1 1/2 c cooked and raw veggies. Snacks are nuts/nut butters or some low GI veg. I eat about 60-75 g protein split between the 3 meals and enough fat to satisfy. Low carb, moderate protein and healthy fats to satisfaction. When I was eating 2 measly ounces of sweet potato my blood sugars would be all over the place. Up and down, even with insulin. Low carb, low GI = steady blood sugar. I get the glucose to my brain from ketones, carbs and 58% of protein turns to sugar. I am at a very healthy weight but adding carbs would change that in a hurry. I love my SWAMI but use it mostly as an avoid list. The portions are way out of line for me. Too many carbs, not enough fat.


Mother I see you figured this thing out.. good luck.. to bad about diabetes, but know it is never your fault..

Spring.. diets need to become a way of life.. that includes to chocolate ... but it must not be a lot.. and always go start over on the next day.. Try low carb, no fat, no sugar, no starches, no friut for 3 days... shocking but it works to cut the cravings.. try it.. In time you can do it.. not all at once.. one meal at a time, one day and eventually 5 days.. best of wishes..

if need do TC again for 'sweet' tastings...


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Goldie, I thought I was clear that the low carb did not work for me at all!   No way! A few years ago I lost over forty pounds eating just the way Dr. D. recommends for me. Those other escapades into the low carb were nearly fifty years ago!!! Remember, Goldie, I'm older than you!


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Susan, does your Swami allow you tofu?  I find it gives me the protein I need first meal, along with nuts and berries. Later in the day lamb, turkey or fish along with veggies is really satisfieing. Brown rice a couple times a week (vegetarian pasta dish) give me no problems like weight gain.

I also find that a little extra stretching and walking each day brings a steady weight loss. The stretching, I think, really optimizes the calorie burn.  I think AB's have a tendency towards metabolic stagnation.



Yes Averno.  SWAMI gives me tofu and I currently eat it about twice or three times a week.  I can try it everyday.  (I do love it.) So you have it for breakfast?  I could put it into my green smoothie in the morning.  Worth a try.  I do lamb about once a week and turkey a couple of times a week.  And fish twice a week as well--if not more.  I eat more fish than anything. Sometimes I suspect that I am not getting enough protein each day.  

I have started walking regularly and with the hills in my neighborhood I get a pretty good aerobic workout.  I am interested that you feel stretching contributes to the workout.  Funny that I'll hear that from you--my husband and son have been working on me for years to stretch.  How many minutes would you recommend each day?  My husband would gladly coach me on technique.

Yes--I definitely feel that my metabolism is stagnant.  Any other recommendations that you would have to jump start it would be most graciously accepted.

Thanks much for your input.

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I will read this thread more, I personally would think carefully about low-carb (I notice many writers/authors are selling books and manufacturing low-carb bars in the shops). There is now a low-carb bread available here.
For me, I need healthy complex carbs for energy, after all it is the carbs which break down to glucose which cells need to function. and they also add fibre, vitamins, minerals, healthy fats.  
Once a person goes low carb, then the intake of  unhealthy foods creeps up which contain saturated fat and cholesterol, which then can lead to insulin resistance or worse diabetes, as the fats can clog up the cells preventing amino acids and glucose from entering, and interfering with insulin. I know this from personal experience, not just from what I've read.
I've had to cut down even the plant fats in avocado, nuts/seeds, olives, olive oil to get my body to improve/heal.  This has meant more salad, vegetables, more beans/lentils and the wonderful hummus(full of protein and calcium), brown rice.
I think the low fat high fibre whole foods approach is great, focusing on whole grains including some rye and barley, oats to keep blood sugar stable, vegetables/salad, cooked legumes/peas/lentils, and two or three whole fresh pieces of fruit a day (some dried fruit is ok, depends on how and when it is eaten).  I understand different approaches work for different people, but I am very concerned when I hear people thinking only about carbs or calories, rather than looking at the whole picture and sticking to fresh whole foods - focus on vegetables and greens, there is plenty of good fats in beans, broccoli, fruit - I am learning to just eat more of it and be better organised, this included more exercise and walking too.
The body heals and adjusts in time, as I am finding, a few months ago, could not eat lentils without major problems due to my pancreas and gut flora, but now the beans/hummus, etc is working as I don't have all the oils/fats causing major problems, so it is not just sugar/fruit causing problems for some people pre-disposed to diabetes, as someone on this forum mentioned. I definitely need some fruit esp the apple and banana due to the benefits they provide, incl for intestinal health and banana being pre-biotic.
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Yeah, aussielady, everyone is different. Even us O's...we're all over the place. My sister gains weight if she looks at rice or wheat (and she's over 250 and 5'5"). I get migraines generally if I don't get rice at least 2 times a week. I don't usually eat more than that lately (and most days, even with that my diet still looks "low carb"), and I'm still dropping pounds and eating robustly. I'm currently at 215, which actually doesn't look too bad on my 5'8" muscular frame, though I have a good 60 pounds to go...I hit my peak of 235 when my son was hospitalized at the end of April.

So I won't be doing as low carb as you, Goldie, but I think I will definitely be cognizant of it and trying to stay below 150, which is my goal. Shouldn't be tough for me.




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Quoted from misspudding
My sister gains weight if she looks at rice or wheat (and she's over 250 and 5'5").  

My diet is abundant in all things rice except rice milk, but the stuff makes me want to eat the house down! For now I avoid it like the plague! Sweet potatoes are my standby. I'm  so glad they are available year round! I can eat all I want and never gain an ounce!


"We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid." -- Benjamin Franklin
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jayneeo
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Wow! Great thoughts here!
Aussielady….thanks for the interesting testimony! That's a totally refreshing approach. (well, it's more like my swami than the super lo-carb approach)…
I am somewhat lo carb at the moment, and it is helping me get a grip on my addictive patterns. My flax waffle (with 2 eggs) holds me for hours! But, yeah, I eat a lot of fat. I'd like to hear more about your issues with fat and the pancreas and gut if you are inclined. I just need to consider all sides. Especially since the way you eat is closer to Dr. D's recommendation than how I eat. (I love fat…)

Oh, maybe you could pm me, as this is a lo carb thread.
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Quoted from susanC
Yes Averno.  SWAMI gives me tofu and I currently eat it about twice or three times a week.  I can try it everyday.  (I do love it.) So you have it for breakfast?  I could put it into my green smoothie in the morning.  Worth a try.  I do lamb about once a week and turkey a couple of times a week.  And fish twice a week as well--if not more.  I eat more fish than anything. Sometimes I suspect that I am not getting enough protein each day.


Susan, I eat just like that. Lunch is often a can of sardines, so maybe I do get more protein. I think our B side demands it. Protein and veggies mostly, but brown rice 2x week causes me no problems. Could be a secretor v nonnie difference.

I saute 1/4" slices of extra firm tofu (with a little salt to crust it). Keep them in the fridge for a quick b.fast of tofu, nuts, a dried fig, berries and a green drink. Keeps me happy for 4-5 hours.

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I have started walking regularly and with the hills in my neighborhood I get a pretty good aerobic workout.  I am interested that you feel stretching contributes to the workout. Yes--I definitely feel that my metabolism is stagnant.


You're probably getting a better workout than I am (20 minutes, mostly flat). I think stretching first sets my mind to the task... I feel a need to be fully engaged (must be that dreamy B side), and visualization during stretching opens up the circulation really well. Same with breathing.

The key is to relax as you stretch. Tell your body to "come along", as opposed to forcing it. The objective is to open the body, not brace against the effort. Go slow and be careful, of course. Sometimes just lying on the floor and feeling your responses is quite productive. If you get a good yawn out of it, your on the right track.



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i've tried doing low carb / high protein / moderate amount of fats an felt really terrible on it. the protein in excess somehow managed to become fats and made my muscles 'soggy'. I'm not sure why. But fat metabolism seems alright.

I'm having a hard time balancing out my nutrients but as of now 173g carbs 54g sugars (from fruit)
34g protein 56g fat (from nut sources) on a per day basis with light workout. i find my carbs OTT.. -_-


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I notice that many of you are calculating your carbs on a daily basis.  Could you share with me how you do that?  Is there an iPhone app?  Maybe I need to do some calculating.  I have absolutely no idea how many carbs--or calories for that matter--that I take in each day.  I basically just try to eat the least I can get away with.  Maybe not the greatest strategy.
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Quoted from susanC
I notice that many of you are calculating your carbs on a daily basis.  Could you share with me how you do that?  Is there an iPhone app?  Maybe I need to do some calculating.  I have absolutely no idea how many carbs--or calories for that matter--that I take in each day.  I basically just try to eat the least I can get away with.  Maybe not the greatest strategy.


http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/diary u can singup for a user n compute the foods u eat u can chk the distribution if your portion size os accurate. don't think its on mobile though. livestrong myplate also counts nutrition


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Exercise is what we make of it... I have written about walking fast from one room to the other walking, or walking up and down the steps, to put my laundry away, making a game out of it.  

I have done exercising with a trainer and interpreted what he said wrongly for many a year.  Then suddenly I understood one more word and the same exercise became easy. one of them is pull ups.. I used to pull up with all my might, until he told me to use the elbows only.. Now I understand and the effort is so much easier, giving me the whole body stretch with my shoulder way more relaxed.  

One great way to use the shoulder blades to strengthen the back is to Tuck in the elbow at your waist, then to cross over the arms and then open the forearms to the side  as wide as possible moving the whole shoulder blades.. try it, its one we can do waiting at the checkout counter.  No stress no strain. Just movement.

Walking out of doors, I recently learned that we need to stay on the sunny side of the street to absorb the vitamin D!!!  We might even just sit in the sun for 10 minutes a day to get the D while we let our eyes enjoy the view.  Most important for those health workers that live in cubicles all day.

As for  weight baring, a can of anything will do fine, it just takes as long as -until you can feel it- and then two more repetitions.  My mom did weight baring even in her bed: she lifted her leg one at a time and held, she lifted her arms and held, or she maneuvered her walking stick to balance it this way that way and many times.  She was still strong even at 91.  

As for low carb, I think one of the reasons my doc for now is looking to have me do it, is to keep my heart more at rest, My pulse was 90 before the surgery, then it slowed to 60 with meds on low carb, when I eat other stuff it goes up to 80 and so there is more to it than eating.  I think by driving the carbs down she is trying to reduce the 'inherited' gen expression of high 'small particles' of cholesterol in my blood.  -- google it.  I will report on how I am doing as time goes on.

The body/brain needs on teaspoon of carbs a day, way less than might be suggested in some places.    Fats for me only come from foods I eat, no need to add unless I am constipated then I add some oil away from food for two weeks or more to get results.  I do way better on low carbs as far as cravings are concerned, when I have to many choices I lose control.            


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Quoted from jayneeo
ruthie, did you lose weight on that lo-carb route? Maybe it wasn't all about that, but just wondering. I should lose weight and should really be low carb, probably. Grain free helps in that direction, but I don't consciously eat locarb.


I lost 15 pounds effortlessly when I was eating 40g of net carbs a day, then plateaued for a year. Cutting carbs further wasn't do-able (I'd feel sick after a day or two, or simply not manage to *not eat more carbs from veggies* by the end of the day.) Slowly increasing my carbs didn't make me gain, and did make me feel better. Then I moved on to BTD. I overdid the carbs at first when I re-introduced some beans, grains, and fruit, and then re-established myself.

I'm still around the weight I was when I abandoned low-carb dieting, which is also the weight I was when Hannah was a year old, and that I naturally settled into by the time Jack was a few months old. I've lost 5 or 10 pounds from that point and re-gained it numerous times in the past several years.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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well, you have done well, ruthie, weight wise. I guess lo carb is what I need. I ate grains for the last two days due to family gatherings of a stressful nature….(dividing an uncles' estate)….and I am back on the grain free wagon which helps a lot towards lo carb.
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I think one of the best things I have read is from Goldie:

"The biggest drag in dieting is Guilt - it builds stress and messes with our intelligence."


FRESH START TODAY!!!
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Quoted from EquiPro
I think one of the best things I have read is from Goldie:

"The biggest drag in dieting is Guilt - it builds stress and messes with our intelligence."


Goldie is indeed wise. I'll have to admit, I didn't realize you were upwards of 70 Goldie...I thought you were much younger until I read your avatar a little closer. But that explains the wisdom, I guess.




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Stress is funny.. I was doing a stress test today, walking uphill on a treadmill for just a 3 minutes.. I held on to the side, holding me steady with my arms, until just at t he end when I 'decided' to hold on in front of me and give myself better posture.. I think that -rethinking- made a great big difference.  

Understanding stress is way more important since when we do we can adjust to it.

Stress is what you make out of it,

Demandingness
is this irrational belief that you always deserve to be treated right.
Every problem in life is blamed on an unfair world.

This man or woman feels that they're special somehow and entitled to a break because they've always been a good parent, spouse, child or employee.

Solution

Understand;  In reality, the world operates quite independently from what you want or demand.
To say it another way
If you expect the world to treat you fairly is like expecting that a bull will not charge you, because you are a vegetarian.

If we look at our angers we can see that 'mis'interpreting them is way more about hurting our own mind and body.  Looking at the above puts stress into perspective in a hurry.  Admitting that we play a big part in 'creating' stress is a good place to start - rethinking how we experience life.

I like the last line below best.. but it took some fighting to accept it..


COMES THE DAWN

After a while you learn the subtle difference
Between holding a hand and chaining a soul,
And you learn that love doesn't mean leaning
And company doesn't mean security,
And you begin to learn that kisses aren't contracts
And presents aren't promises,
And you begin to accept your defeats
With your head up and your eyes open,
With the grace of a woman, not the grieve of a child,
And you learn to build all your roads on today
Because tomorrow's ground is too uncertain for plans,
And futures have a way of falling down mid-flight.
After a while you learn
That even sunshine burns if you get too much.
So plant your own garden and decorate your own soul,
Instead of waiting for someone to bring you flowers.
And you learn that you really can endure,
That you really are strong,
And you really do have worth,
And you learn and learn.....
With every good bye you learn.


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whole grains, beans/lentils/chick peas, vegetables/salads for me, for now,  all these low in sugars.
the complex healthy carbs, I need for energy and to keep blood sugar stable.
fruits, only minimal for me. apple/berry.
The other day, too much fruit and soaked around 2 or 3am, as hypo glycmia episode.
so must be careful, lower fat better for me, as liver and pancreas happier. sorry am rushing today.
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