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Goldie
Sunday, June 29, 2014, 8:44pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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What did it feel like?   I am suddenly a candidate for a look see in my heart, as one of the chambers is not looking right.  If they can not open the various arteries, I am to have open heart suregery... That from one day to the next, nearly..

I will be OK, but I am shocked and wonder just what it will feel like.. Is anyone here familiar with the procedure?  At least it will explain why I have been out of breath more than ever.  

The first concern with this issue comes from having diabetes, and small particles in my blood.  (or plaque) All inherited, no guilt as to what I ate.. and supposedly I am still in good condition, overall.

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Goldie {{{hugs}}} My brother in law had that operation and seems fine?! All the best!
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I know of a few who have had it and are impressed with the return of energy because of increased flow. They have also done physical rehab but they had heart attacks which led to the finding of the blockages. Wishing you the best!  
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Goldie
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I apparently never put together the fact that I am having issues with breath. oxygenconversion... I have had bad oxygen all my life, but what made me seek out a heart specialist was the fact that i always have high pulse.. like 90 all day./...

I liked my friends doctor and made on appointment.  I was surprised but in hine sight all the symptoms where there for me for years...  I got lucky again!!!  

I expect all will be easy.. if the doc can just open the blockages... ----or she said if that is not possible then it will be open heart surgery.... Totally ridiculous - immmagine that..  







Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Just pointing out that KimonoKat's recent thread discusses heart surgery and the placement of stents.

http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1401890033/s-0/highlight-stents/#num0


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All of my siblings and most of my male cousins on my father's side of the family have had stents, bypass surgery, and in some cases, both.  Certainly the diabetes can contribute to the need for this surgery.  It has given all the members of my family a new lease on life!  I would imagine your quality of life will improve dramatically after the surgery.  The recovery from stents is easier than the recovery from open heart surgery, so I hope it is the former rather than the latter.  Either way, it can be life-saving surgery.

Best of luck and keep us informed, Goldie.


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Thanks all.. well as I said, it was a surprise for me.. I just never put all the sign posts in the right place.  I felt OK, in fact better than ever in my life as I was in severe pain until age 63/4.  Once out of pain I never felt better just being me, no pills, alive and not suffering.  I was able to put my life in order and take on way fewer  health concerns, until the recent cancer, and then a look see to see what else might be needing attention.  

I was told years ago I had cholesterol issues, but somehow at least at the beginning I was OK as the two numbers canceled each other out. -- My reg Doc knew that I refused to take the pills I am now required to take for e a while... Yet he never really advised that if not conventional meds, then what else was I taking? to reduce risk, or the better the situation.. He knows I follow BTD for two decades, he knows I am also using the ondamed(.net) equipment.  

What he did not know is that I took no supplements, and did little about treating ME.  I treat my friends and clients, but seldom addressed ME.    

As of late the doctors everywhere are asking what other meds or sups, or over the counter stuff do you take?  BUT the question alone is not enough.  They still leave it up to the patient to decide the amount, how long and when...   I think for the next time I ought to make a complete list of all.  to be fair, in this maize I am not a good communicator.  I am protective of over the counter stuff, and have no intention to let the FDA swoop in and declare them out of bounds.  

On the other hand, if I am not taking the meds as prescribt, then I wonder if I have any rights to expect costly intervention such as surgery. I think I owe it to society to stay healthy, so as not to cost extra money, but still where to draw the lines.  I must have 70 different sups in my house, the ones I bought hoping to fix this or that, and most just did nothing... I have a few like 5HTP which I will buy when I see  a need.. or Penthethine, Pantothenic acid, which I have known for decades is good for me.  I am currently taking 1000 mg a day as per Dr D.  I am happy to be on that.  It just makes me feel better.  I also read that it does  the body good.

I have a dozened new sups prescribt and actually might be able to reduce the current meds protocols after a few month... at least I am hoping so.

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But here are the symptoms I overlooked..:

sleepiness at all times and nights of any day,

interrupted sleep 45 min to 90 min - at all times of the day or night... I think those are BIG deals.  

I have hot flashes so I attributed to them.. wrong!   I souls have dealt with them- now I am- finally and 15 years tooooo late.

Same with Cholesterol, if I was to have any bad kind, the good does not make the bad go away, taking sups by DR D might have lessened the problems.

NOT seeing a heart specialist, just as I would a regular doctor, after having a bad reading of Cholesterol is a big mistake!!! I think we need to be more vigilant.  My going to see one by more or less accident is maybe saving my life, and most assuredly my current health.  Prevention of a heart attack is what I focus on today.

Shortness of breath, is not just something I always had when in the mountains, I now have it any place.. even without exertions.. just sitting and talking as of late..

High pulse rates, not normal either..   it drove me to the heart doctor and he may save me from bad health after a heart attack..

Acceptance that I will follow my father in the end with Diabetes and Heart issues ... this is not to be accepted.. it is to be fought.. how I have no idea...

The answer to it all: see Dr D 15 Years earlier, take the right sups 15 years earlier, save money on taking the right kind of support approach.  I spent thousands, on useless stuff.

AND finally sitting down with a health professional for on hour!!! who can explain all the differences in a meaningful way is becoming more and more important, as Doctors have no time, and there are just to many meds and sups to choose from.. Doing so relying on any system of medical doctors is not right.  in the end they Prescribe OK, but have no time to tell the ins and outs.. THAT needs to be another person who is versed in all the side effects and benefits..  

I am learning...
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Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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I had open heart sugery at 65. Hopefully stents will work for you, as that recovery is easier. but, if you ever need open heart surgery the recovery process is just longer. The key issue in recovery is to very gradually keep increasing your activity levels and to remember that as you heal you will feel much better and be able to do more for longer. Ask about cardio rehab when you see your docs post-surgery, whether you have stents or open-heart. It is very helpful to have that support and social interaction. Best wishes.
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I expect to come through this without issues.  I am mobile, and I am active, I also weight train and keep house.  I am self motivated... The good thing is that I do not 'feel' ill.  I am at peak even with struggling for air.. so anything I will get from stents will be more of a plus.  

The big thing for me is to just REcognize that I have heart issues and act accordingly.

I was reassured that diet and anything else I did in my life had NOTHING to do with this inherited desease... Yet by having followed BTD for 20 years I might have avoided all the puffiness, the swollen feet, the looking like a heart patient, the sweating that comes with heart failure, and all the other self pity stuff that comes from heart issues.  I know I am extremely lucky to have had BTD as my mainstay in diet... I can not imagine what my life would be like eating starches and carbs. I have avoided them so long I forget them.

Where I cheat is in sugar things and getting that out of my life is way more difficult.  I have no need for sugar per say, but I like pretty food, deserts are pretty.  I 'see' food and I want just a little..  a little can be bad for diabetes, and diabetes is way more damaging to my system than is all else.

SEEMS that the diabetes allows things to bore into my artery walls and then allow plaque to form there... That is where the risk for Cholesterol blockages comes from and Alzheimer's to follow.

As I get more informed I learn about these things not in abstract labels, but in what the labels actually do or do not do.

Its a different world.  I was lucky getting to the cancer doctor 'early' by accident, being just curious what showed up on the mammogram, just curious.. that curiosity saved me from worse breast cancer.. The same is true for heart issues.. I was more curious of WHY I have high pulse rate all the time.. just curiosity made me get a cholesterol test, and the various tests that showed heart muscle damage.. Now the question is why? how much? and what is the cause.Diabetes is one genes the other.  The 'exploratory' surgery,  wire up the groin will tell way more than all the 'fuzzy' pictures.  I am prepared to have my health saved one, more time.. Wednesdays will be the day.  I am lucky..

I type all these long posts to teach all of you to learn how to interpret your own symptoms.. It is not that others are as I am when it comes to prevention, I am really frustrated that with all that I learn here I still do not have a clue.   I have good doctors and still I get 'sick'.  Sick to me is feeling sick, not just being that some day.. I do not feel sick... bla bla bla  famous last words...    

    


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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My husband also had high cholesterol. Then a heart attack at 44.  I think stress was a factor.
Then at 48 a stent.
He is now 60 and doing well.
I don't think he even thinks about it, he's the type who has a belief he will survive all! Very positive attitude.  
Lin


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Wow that was young... I have  a positive outlook and feel confident all will be well.  I also have no fear of dying.. I just wish I did not have to become incapacitated. That is why I try to do all I can to prevent problems.  will it work, maybe.  

After Wednesday I will continue my restricted diet, no carbs, no sugar, no starches and take the sups and by September I will see what progress I make..

And I will take the sups from Dr D and the meds with the proviso that I will be able to eliminate some soon after the sups start to work.   It is too bad I did not have the subs way before.. I might have avoided all this current situation.

I feel strongly that a 'wellness' i/e 'prevention' discussion for all kinds of sups should be made available on a Disk so that we would all be able to asses when we should take this or that.  

One issue 'I' might have is that the new doctors as trained, might learn some things, needed for current educational needs, but they will never have the detailed info 'learned' by the original research groups that decided on the ins and outs of BTD values.  -- Getting answers to questions is still a tricky situation. -- It may be the best reason to make the appointment with DR D at his practice- if I arrived there with a list of specific questions...  maybe something to look forward to..... someday..        


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!

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Lin, is your hubby type A?


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My husband's stents.

The stents were placed via the femoral artery in the leg. Mr. KK did not have open heart surgery for his stents.  The temporary heart pump was also inserted through the femoral artery.


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Quoted from Goldie

Where I cheat is in sugar things and getting that out of my life is way more difficult.  I have no need for sugar per say, but I like pretty food, deserts are pretty.  I 'see' food and I want just a little..  a little can be bad for diabetes, and diabetes is way more damaging to my system than is all else.

    


Goldie, I would highly recommend you read the book, The Great Cholesterol Myth by Johnny Bowen, Ph.D., C.N.S. and Stephen T. Sinatra, M.D., F.A.C.C., F.A.C.N., C.N.S., C.B.T.  Dr. Sinatra is a board-certified cardiologist and assistant professor of medicine at the University of Connecticut School of Medicine.

Given the significant family history of heart disease in my own family, I am trying to educate myself as best I can.  The ultimate premise of this book is that SUGAR, in any form (except for sugar found in fruits and vegetables) is extremely damaging to the heart.  Given the fact that you have diabetes, sugar is for you the double whammy.  I know it is difficult to give sugar up entirely.  Maybe you could incorporate dark chocolate or cocoa nibs and fruit when you get sugar cravings.  According to this book, sugar, not fat, is the real culprit in coronary artery disease.  The book also recommends several heart-healthy supplements and clearly outlines the major risks and benefits of statins.

He has a couple of websites with a wealth of holistic and allopathic advice.  They are:

http://www.heartmdinstitute.com

and

http://www.drsinatra.com

He advocates things like earthing, stress reduction and yoga while being grounded in the benefits and pitfalls of allopathic medical intervention.  

It sounds like surgical intervention of one form or another is in your future.  This book will also give you a list of supplements that have been clinically proven to reduce surgical recovery time and improve your heart function.

Good luck, Goldie, and keep us informed.
Patty


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