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Goldie
Monday, June 23, 2014, 5:55pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I wonder if the anxiety felt in the early morning could be ameliorated with Melatonin?  Has anyone ever tried that?  

The lady is 84 and has no reason to worry, but possibly worsening eye sight is creating fears of being alone or abandoned during crisis...  she is on thyroid meds but seems perfectly OK as far as that is concerned...  she stopped smoking 2 years ago, and has good family and nearby friends.. and enough money not to worry.    

I have another friend 75 with nearly daily attacks of anxieties.  Palpitations and fear.  Talking to himself is helping greatly but never enough to make the anxiety to go away and stay away.  

Any suggestions?  I wonder if maybe a relaxation tape would help? to listen too in the morning..


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This link may be very interesting.. I will follow through asking both people to take the test..

In the 84 year old lady's case, it is a good guess as she does not drink enough water... Very interesting, when I also take into consideration that some drink coffee instead of water!..  or a glass of wine..

In his case it might be on inordinate fear which developed in the teen years, by a event in which the person felt terribly through having zero control over events..

Circular thinking might be the effects for both people thus burning out their adrenals.. taking that test might reveal answers.. Thanks!  great find.  I will report further.    


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Have her parathyroids been checked out? I know a woman fitting your friend's description that underwent a very positive personality change once she had a tumorous PT removed.
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She is scheduled to see her Thyroid doctor next month .. I have mentioned it.. I am going with her, to be there too. yes

How did that person discover what was happening?  


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Make sure you ask about parathyroids Goldie.  Very different from thyroids.  Testing is totally separated although both are blood tests.  Parathyroids control the calcium in our system and if there is a parathyroid tumor, it steals calcium from our bones.  I had one removed in 1996.
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Goldie-  Osteoporosis and poor calcium uptake. It took years for an enlightened doctor to begin testing for para-thyroid issues. Turns out there was a small tumor. Luckily, she had the good sense to reject the first surgeon who wanted to "go in and root around". The second surgeon preformed a dying technique (radiological?) that identified 1 out of 4 that was affected. She had it removed with minimal discomfort, and has had a remarkable turn-around with some anxiety and anger issues.

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Goldie--elevated calcium on the CBC and the PTH (parathyroid hormone) blood test.  So easy to test for and so OFTEN overlooked. And as Jane says, totally different from the thyroid gland.  The only association is the location--4 small flat disc like glands located on the back of the thyroid.  Name comes strictly from the 'neighborhood', and nothing to do with function.  Too easy to test for not to do.

You initially asked about melatonin.  It never hurts to have her drink a little glass of tart (Montmorency) cherry juice morning and night.  You can get organic concentrate from Eden Foods--online.
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if  supps are needed go for lavender oil (for internal use only) and or  passion flower...highest amounts of mg and B-vits ...
those older ladies often do have problems to accept right ammounts of those stuffs...coz of *adrenal issues* better said detoxing issues... lead to......   and then don't underestimate psychological traits...especially in this age coz + - nothing has been...*worked out*.... ......

Unawareness leads to such a behaviour... nothing else...if not..they would be able to controle themselves... but nope the expectancies were bigger: you've to go for my interests...you've to act... and so on...and this is now the bill to pay!!!
All home made issues...all home made !!!  Coz they can't handle their fears.... fears of not have lived their own lives... not faced their own fears etc.... hey folks...and what else .... sorry yessss I know I'm a toughy -one onto those themata... but when do we start to become aware about ourselfs !!!....

sorry Averno - shatzala.. don't ya think you're also in a mood  of: all others are the culprit.... but not me..... blaming...whatever...... fixing a sort of enemy pic..... thyroid is the meaning of : gossipings but also of *being heared by my voice* .... and viewed by some
known rules.... this is meant: take all responsabilities...   .....


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Quoted from Amazone I.

sorry Averno - shatzala.. don't ya think you're also in a mood  of: all others are the culprit.... but not me..... blaming...whatever...... fixing a sort of enemy pic..... thyroid is the meaning of : gossipings but also of *being heared by my voice* .... and viewed by some
known rules.... this is meant: take all responsabilities...   .....


Hmmmnnn... I think I understand this question.

The anxiety and anger issues preceded the parathyroid condition, and were seemingly corrected by the removal of the tumor. While I agree that self-awareness and responsibility are the key to our behavior, I also believe that feeling physically ill makes it hard to arrive at or maintain equilibrium. Body/mind, mind/body... one does not lead the other. Harmony is balance. We're in constant flux, seeking unison, not dominance. Extant in all worlds.

Illness is not an excuse for negative personality traits, but often settles there, interfering with growth and maturity. My observation of her condition was shared by others and were just that- observations. How each of us process and react to these observations are ours alone, a personal reflection of self-awareness, responsibility and maturity. Always in flux. With effort, towards harmony.

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