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Goldie
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As I am getting older (70) I have so far inherited many issues.  

By being Gatherer, I am more hungry - with cravings on issue all my life and in all thinking and activeties...

I inherited a sensitivity for Dairy and suffered the Dairy Corporations (wrong) push for milk (prevalent especially in the US)

I inherited Diabetes and was terrified of it because I saw it as guilty from eating wrong foods..

I inherited genes for Syndrome X,  I am hypoglycemic  with stress being very active... making me feel way more insecure internally than I should have.

I inherited the Genes for Cancer.. even though at age 70, I am the first one with Breast cancer, I did not escape being my mothers child with aging... Please do your Mammograms..

I inherited Heart/Cholesterol/Lipid issues from my father.  AND even though my heart specialist (finally agrees with what we know HERE for 2 decades) saying that food did not cause my bad numbers, I still could not escape and have to face it squarely head on... how I do not yet know--

In all this I am aware that my grandfather had some dementia.. will I also get it.. will it be in my genes and thus unavoidable?  Had I expected all this and possibly more issues, could I have done things differently?  He was skinny, but did he have hardening of the main arteries to his brain?

I am saying Dr.D. I am forever Grateful for at least having fair warning..

To think of what I would have EXPERIENCED if I had not known about Inherited Genes (learned from Dr. D. 20 years ago) I might have been in no way able to address each issues long before it came screaming at me.  The guilt and frustration and ignorance (by many Doctors) would have driven me over the edge...

Instead, I can (now-a-day)  do further Geno screening and see what other things I Inherited and plan for it.  I have knowledge, I have defenses, I have the ability to be pro active.. What a difference!!!  

Now all I need is to know if Dr. D. actually recommends a up to date Geno screening test or does he do them in his offices when clients go there, or is he sooooo aware that he can foretell even more then he did in ER4YT?  

I am really becoming CURious to what else he knows about my aging process, issues coming down the picke...

I am now (pro actively) doing several things to 'see' how far down the path of inheritance I have gone so far...  finger arthritis, had pneumonia, some asthma, good skin, good mental health, ambitious, strong, determined, so what else???  

Mom had Macular Degeneration and cataracts, my recent Eye test showed 'bubbles' as the onset of the disease.., (I expect to treat myself with my electromagnetic equipment and push the shrinking of vision out for years-way out.)

Mom had colon cancer at 80, I am getting screened tomorrow ... its time I did it...

Mom had lung cancer at 90, maybe every 5 years from now on I will do a lung ex-ray, especially since I am always short of breath, and altitude matters greatly for my breathing and Oxygen exchange leaving me with high pulse rates...

Wow this list is becoming seriously longer every day.. Whats next? Cataracts?    

I might have become bent over in old age if I did not start to correct my upper body strength decades ago, thus strengthening my posture... One of my nieces has inherited my fathers goose neck, she can not push back her neck or she crushes her wind pipe... she had to give up her learned Profession which required her to look up all the time... At least I know why and after her proffessional re-education - she knows it too...  its all 'just' inherited bla bla..    

My nephew inherited his moms weak ankles and dislocating shoulder, and his kids are overweight from 'pasta' in Italian cooking in his wifes family...  I am glad he now at least is starting to clean his and his sons liver.. Both and I too have heartburn.. we learn as we go along...

Are you still reading.. if yes... then start by really looking at all the generation and see what you might have inherited.....  we are our inheritance!



    




Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!

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I am in touch with the Center for Excellence,  it is the safe place where prevention is at least attempted.  The funny thing is : I am completely healthy and well and feel great... Ha-ha I am just pleased that I know about Genetics... It puts a whole different spin on who what where the next 'diagnosis' will come from.   I have learned to see that I had nothing to do with it.  I just live to prove the factors as they present themselves.  I did nothing to 'earn' my life, neither my lifestyle nor my activities could prevent the outcome.  

Might I have pushed it out a little?  Might I have started to take meads pills and potions a little later, yes I believe my way of living has added years to my state of wellbeing.  AND now I am able to just sort of sit back and have all the chickens come home to roost.  Ha-ha They do have different names, they look different, but not one of them will do me in.  I shrugged of the mantel of guilt, I am clear headed, and willing to sit up and report : The Genetic Facts and nothing but The Progressive Facts...  


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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I'm with you on the age comment!  I'm 80 plus 8 months and just took the Swamixpress etc.  I had been somewhat following the ER4YType O for at least 15 yrs.  I thought I was a Gatherer until I took the SWAMI XPRESS.  
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Now, I find I'm an O Explorer. I have tried so many diets to try to lose weight, and now after one week, I've lost at least 2 pounds or more!  
I inherited the Hemochromatosis gene, so must remain in the 'anemic' state as far as my blood studies report.  Below 10 encourages the extra iron out of my tissues.  I had a biopsy of my liver that said I was 6 times more than normal toxic with iron.  I am now recovering from a med side effect because of my toxic liver.
My Mom was almost Cirrhotic in her liver when she had her gall bladder out in her 70's.  She or the doctors didn't know about the iron overload then, and she lived to be 93.  Congestive heart failure, which I am also prone for, along w/Osteoporosis that made me lose 2 1/2 inches in height.  I also have a rare ion channelopathy disease (Hypokalemic Periodic Paralysis), along with my 83 yr old sister, and the neuros and MDs are puzzled at the amount of potassium we have to take to keep from going into paralysis episodes.  I am so much healthier than I was at age 70. Fifty years ago I was going blind, but special diet gave me my eyesight back, and my Mom and several sisters have Macular degeneration, but I don't!  Not even cataracts!
I had 2 adopted children because of ectopic pregnancies, so at least I don't worry about their inheriting my genes, but they have their own trials with their health.  I'm thousands of miles away from them because of my health, and it is less stressful for me, but I still love them and care, but can't help them!
I'm so thankful and grateful for Dr. D'Adamo's info etc.
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Um.....well Goldie....I took another look at the Genotype book and just basically take it from there and try not to worry about the rest. I look back today and see that I've had adrenal issues since teenage years; so the "engine of the train" has been running itself helter skelter without me knowing how to properly drive it; if that has been my main genetic concern, then possibilities for diabetes/heart disease fall into place behind as a secondary. Cancer -- well, -- I have my SWAMI, and I'll start eating a whole lemon per day.  

My eyes; I don't know if the slight blur is from age or variable blood pressure but if it clears up from losing weight, then I will know. Otherwise, no fear of glaucoma from my narrow eye sockets; and even then, laser surgery intervention can prevent blindness from occurring (unlike a century ago).

Teeth; well - some bone loss in the jaw already from aggrevated perio -- so it's up to me to keep my teeth. If they get any looser I'll just wear a retainer during the day. Both parents lost a tooth in the same spot but mine are assymetrical  this time because I'm an Explorer. but it's not like I can't chew.

I would say look at what the best the Gatherer type can do and leave the rest to bettering the surrounding the environment for the best of possible outcomes. Nobody want shortened telomeres as the years pass!


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Please do your Mammograms..


From everything I have read, I would look for an alternative to a mammogram Goldie. a thermal imaging camera seems like a much better option.

"""Annual mammograms are unnecessary because they're inaccurate and dangerous and the imaging industry admits that thermography is a safe and viable alternative."""

Also please not All women can benefit from DITI breast screening. However, it is especially appropriate for younger women (30 – 50) whose denser breast tissue makes it more difficult for mammography to be effective

but I agree prevention by eating right is the best option. oxo



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viewed by orthomolecular medicine... I'd like to point out: MAP is very very in favour against aging....some fatty acids and of course all vits,minerals and trace elements.. dito alpha lipoic acid and all polyphenols etc. against cell damage

But the most important is how you're going to take it mentally ....and sometimes *to fall in love* works wonders .....


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viewed by orthomolecular medicine... I'd like to point out: MAP is very very in favour against aging....some fatty acids and of course all vits,minerals and trace elements.. dito alpha lipic acid and all polyphenols etc. against cell damage

But the most important is how you're going to take it mentally ....and sometimes *to fall in love* works wonders .....


Well yay because I will probably not buy Trehalose first thing.


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From everything I have read, I would look for an alternative to a mammogram Goldie. a thermal imaging camera seems like a much better option.

"""Annual mammograms are unnecessary because they're inaccurate and dangerous and the imaging industry admits that thermography is a safe and viable alternative."""

Also please not All women can benefit from DITI breast screening. However, it is especially appropriate for younger women (30 – 50) whose denser breast tissue makes it more difficult for mammography to be effective

but I agree prevention by eating right is the best option. oxo



What kind of clinics or labs offer this?


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Actually I think I got both..  The film on which my cancer showed was amazing, so small and so undetectable in any other way.  a 1/4 inch spot that could easily have grown undetected... the only reason they found it was that I had a cyst near it and I took a film to rule that out as anything serious.  I had taken 2 other mammograms over the span of twenty years.. never expected this to be the place to develop cancer.  

I have no care as which procedure,/treatment might be better or worse, so long as it detects a cancer early, ... will I ever get another, in that spot or elsewhere, I have no idea, yet at least this time I was lucky to have found it early...

  


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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dearle..dearle Goldie... remember about this thema please...

as long as we do identify in : my this and that... so you're bound to *it*... but while giving yourselve and body a chance in revealing: my body shows up with symptoms like.... all becomes much easier to cope with this very situation and growth and healing processes  can happen muchmore intense and quicker !!!

p.s

and I'd never go nor recommend  any mamogram again... the side effects of those are ... but ok go for thermograms of your breasdt... this is ok ....
we need to become aware muchmore about *the energetical levels* as well...
ursache und Wirkung..... causa et effect....


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Genetics matter greatly, yet being aware is soooo much more ..  If I was or had been doing the foods do's and don't that other 'average' people are doing, I can imagine my taking 10 pills a day morning noon and night.  The questionable nice part about that is that they are covered by insurance.  

Yet awareness of the issues -for many years before they show up- is of great reassurance that affords us here to make a difference way before - knowing  that we know more than the average Jane or Joe.  By now I am no longer surprised if I get Alzheimer, I am actually able to 'plan' for it.  I have a 50/50 chance of getting it.  I feel that my brainpower has already diminished by 50%.  I find thinking and concentrating way more difficult.  I feel that my thinking is way less capable of 'hearing' quickly spoken words.  I have way less ability to retain quickly spoken words, and I have way less ability to repeat several words in a row, then I might have been able to do only a few years ago.  

I feel way less capable to have a good conversation where details are necessary.  I am shrinking in my conversations to be much more general, and I build in many a pause to allow me a way to re-focus.  Yet, as I age I can say I was over stressed for years and I burnt out.. burnout however should come back and recover.  I think I am not recovering, I am remaining much less interested in active life, active study or the ATTEMPT to 'remember'.  Instead I just retire from life== The good thing== old people are not expected to have a brain.  

While I could lament over this, I am not certain that there is much to do about it.  Just the list of issues in the first post here is overwhelming, and adding one or 7 more items is just 'crazy'.  One feels like a hypochondriac!  If I where to walk in a doctors office with that list, I think the 'average' Doctors / offices would admit me to a looney tone ward.  At least HERE I can talk about all the issues and still be taken seriously.  BIG difference!  

There is a need for all 'patients' to have a list with 300 'experiences' listed on it, (there was once a Lyme conditions list somewhere) and then possibly there would be patterns that would coincide with Swami groupings.  Yet, talk about my brain not functioning as it once did, that would be lost in conversation.  First of, it would be dismissed simply as part of female hormone issues after menopause, it would most likely not even be addressed for a long time.  Intervention would be missing for decades.  HERE we have - if not an answer- at least the ability to talk about far away issues, with some  understanding and WITHOUT ridicule. Way, more advanced, way better!

As example, another issue, I had a colonoscopy, and the results where reasonable, but no real advise on what to do going forward.  I know that if I address the issues HERE I will get usable advise, reasonable understanding, and reasonable solutions.  --

In the end here I will take as many sups as the 30 pills others are taking, I will have to pay them out of pocket, all in the expectations that they at least will not do harm.  None will come with a warning of possibly getting cancer, lung issues or death in the advertisements of the subs.   

I know what to expect more and more and in that I can make a difference.  I can eat so as to mitigate the bad effects, I can feel confident that I am pro-actively participating/ influencing my wellbeing for years to come.   I do think that making written plans for when I might not be able to do so anymore,  is one place I should start.  Just advising anyone that I am to stay away from dairy, from wheat, and starches would make that 'lifespan' way more comfortable.  Imagine for a second what old age food in a nursing home will look like with those three items being the mainstay of diet?!?!      What a horror.  

So, I start today with one more time looking at what I can do to make a difference.  and that is what this Genetic Information/Connection is affording me!    

        


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Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!

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