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Patty H
Friday, June 20, 2014, 12:13am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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In my experience also--allopathic doctors do not understand adrenal function.

The gold standard test for adrenal function is the ASI--Adrenal Stress Index from DiagnosTechs.  It is a saliva test that charts adrenal and insulin function throughout the day.  Through their website you can locate a provider in your area to evaluate your results and treat you if necessary.  


This is the test I just had from my new naturopath.  I am definitely experiencing adrenal fatigue.  You test your saliva four different times of the day.  Morning, lunch, dinner and bed time.  My own particular test came up with cortisol present in the morning but none the rest of the day.  She has prescribed Bio-Adaptogen Ultra for adrenal support.


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One other thought.  Years ago I complained to my doctor that I was feeling totally exhausted, couldn't put one foot in front of the other.  When she did blood tests, it came back that my calcium was WAY too high which is an indication of a parathyroid tumor usually.  There was a special test that I had to take where they had to immediately refrigerate the blood after taking it.  I had a parathyroidectomy (and a near total thyroidectomy) within a few weeks.  Calcium being that high is an indication of the tumor and it means that it is stealing calcium from your bones.  Probably not the reason at all for what you are going through but just one more thing that probably should be explored with a CBC.


This is very interesting to me.  My brother was diagnosed with extremely high calcium.  With his heart disease history (heart attack at age 53 - stents) then later needed bypass surgery, this is a very dangerous condition.

My mother has had thyroid issues since she was a child when she had a goiter.  She has been on synthroid for years.  I assume her doctors tested this but I will check.  Thank you very much for sharing this.


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Patty and Jane,  I too was diagnosed with hyperparathyroidism. My blood calcium was high, although not outrageously so, but when we tested my PTH (parathyroid hormone), it was a whooping 320, where normal is around maybe 50--maybe lower--my memory may not be serving me correctly on that.  I had a 2.5cm adenoma on one parathyroid gland.  (We have four.)  Had that one removed and my blood calcium and PTH went to normal immediately.  I presume it took some time for the calcium to clear from internal organs where it gets deposited.  When blood calcium starts looking high, it's important to test the PTH.
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Ruth, fatigue is the primary challenge in my daily life.  

I agree with Bach flower remedies as a very great assistance.  The one that helps me the most with bone-deep fatigue is OLIVE.  I love it for this particular condition.



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Exercise is hard when I get dizzy and out of breath. I suspect that rhodiola is making me worse. I started taking it a while ago, then after a few months developed anxiety (which had NEVER been part of my symptoms of depression.) I stopped taking it for quite some time. A few days ago I started taking it again, hoping maybe it would help energize me and give me some focus to get through the day. In that week I've started feeling worse. Maybe the rhodiola is to blame.

I also take 100 mg of 5-HTP at night. I used to take 200 mg, then I tried to cut back because it seemed "un-natural" to rely on this product, plus it's rather expensive. I seemed to do OK on 100 mg, so I  tried dropping down to 50 mg. That did NOT go well, so I went back to 100.


Rhodiola actually stimulates the adrenal gently and if you are depleted i think it can initially feel like anxiety.  Also the right amount matters.  Higher amounts are said to stimulate and lower amounts to relax.  I actually find when i take two 500mg at 5% rosavins it relaxes me while if i just take one it sorta hypes me up.  I took two yesterday one at 11am and 1 at 5pm and knocked out watching a movie at 11.  Yet it helps me with focus.  I also use ashwagandha which works outstanding for me, and the two together work great for me.  But I give credit most to ashwagandha, the rhodiola I already had.   The combo in my case amazingly seems to be quite effective.   Ashwagandha is recommended for A types most for this type of thing and also B types..
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Ruth, fatigue is the primary challenge in my daily life.  

I agree with Bach flower remedies as a very great assistance.  The one that helps me the most with bone-deep fatigue is OLIVE.  I love it for this particular condition.

It is so easy to forget the power that comes from these little bottles! Olive is good for people who get sleepy driving too, --the ones who are not into caffeine, etc.!


"We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid." -- Benjamin Franklin
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Ruthie, can you afford to see a naturopath in your area?  If so, you could get the saliva test for hormones, which will INCLUDE the adrenal hormones.  Like I said, I paid $180 for the test plus the doctor visit.  My PCP sent me to a hormone specialist but she used blood tests which did not show everything.  I agree with idea to try this first with an holistic practitioner.  Expensive - but the results will be more helpful to coming up with a good program with natural supplements.


Naturopaths are not licensed in NYS, so of course there's no insurance coverage for it. Meanwhile, Medicaid will cover 100% of any tests I can get my PCP to order for me. My current income consists of SSI and food stamps for 3 (even though there are now 4 of us living in the house.)  Neither of the girls has found a job yet, and I'm not getting any more child support. I've been borrowing money for  groceries.  It's simply not possible to spend $300+ on a visit to a naturopath.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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SusanC you had exactly the same thing that I had - a parathyroid tumor on one of the parathyroids.  Most people do have 4 but some people actually can have more.  My test was also way up in the 300s and normal I believe is somewhere around 25 if I recall.  It was a long time ago - 1996!
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I'm going to have to re-read this thread when I have some more brain function, and take some notes on it before I next see my doctor. I just haven't had the energy to do higher-order thinking, and I've been so busy with the kids and my Mom's upcoming party that there just hasn't been time for anything else. Not when spending a few hours running errands basically leaves me feeling "spent" for the day.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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Naturopaths are not licensed in NYS, so of course there's no insurance coverage for it. Meanwhile, Medicaid will cover 100% of any tests I can get my PCP to order for me. My current income consists of SSI and food stamps for 3 (even though there are now 4 of us living in the house.)  Neither of the girls has found a job yet, and I'm not getting any more child support. I've been borrowing money for  groceries.  It's simply not possible to spend $300+ on a visit to a naturopath.


Totally understood, Ruthie.  

Maybe someone here can offer you some suggestions on tests that your PCP can do for adrenal fatigue?  Another idea is to get a referral to a specialist who deals with hormones.  My PCP did refer me to someone.  Maybe bioidentical hormones would be good for you.  Do you know if you have a polymorphism in your methylation (MTHFR)?  If you do, then using hormones, whether bioidentical that are applied externally and do not need to pass through the liver or ingesting hormones that do need to pass through the liver, can cause problems.  I know this because my body could not methylate the leftover hormones when I was using the bioidentical hormones.  I cannot tell you how disappointed I was because i felt fantastic while I was on them  

You take good care.  


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It is so easy to forget the power that comes from these little bottles! Olive is good for people who get sleepy driving too, --the ones who are not into caffeine, etc.!
Most powerful.



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