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Goldie
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I do not understand, I was doing great, no worries no sorrow, yet the last few weeks I feel depressed again.

I am at witts end.. I had felt great aftter taking TC and it lasted over the 1-2 years.. but suddenly I am miserable and tired all day again.  

I am going to start on TC again all by it own.. no other sups...  I am hoping it will just be a glitch..

Anyone else having the blues?  for holidays, or other reasons? what to you do about it?  



Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Goldie, sweetheart, I think this is an individual/personal matter; your simple post is not something I feel I can address over the Internet. Can you talk with a friend, perhaps?  


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Did anything change recently? Did you eat something you shouldn't have over Thanksgiving? Change your exercise routine?

Remember that it's normal to have ups and downs. You're past the point of monthly cycles, but your body will still want to alternate "active" times with "quieter, more reflective" times. Feeling blue is sometimes a sign of a chemical imbalance in the body, but sometimes it's simply a result of "needing a good cry but not letting yourself have it."


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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I was thinking along Ruth's reasoning, Seems everyone is so busy, no time for reflection. The weather getting colder and days shorter. Seems this is the time for the blues.  Didn't you have surgery not long ago? Or just the coming down of stress with the big C. I would never want to minimize your feelings or second guess your health. Just some thoughts for you as you look for answers


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what to you do about it?  



Magnesium helps some people. You might want to consider if mineral balance could be an issue for you.



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Goldie {{{{{hugs}}}}  I'm so sorry you're feeling depressed....

Are you getting any exercise? You can  naturally raise your level of dopamine (a happy, feel good neurotransmitter for Os) by getting some exercise.

I would suggest you call the clinic for some professional input.  You really shouldn't try to assume
this is something deeply emotional because chemically something might be off and need adjusting.

You've had surgery, radiation plus probably were put on an antibiotic after surgery (most everyone
would be). I usually wind up with candida after an antibiotic and that usually causes depression...Although
a good cry would be helpful if this is related to your recent medical experience, if not, I'm hoping one of the NDs could give you their very best advice.


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Goldie, so sorry to hear you're feeling depressed Are you able to do yoga? I find it is a great help to me when I'm feeling down. Also try to maximise the time you can spend in the daylight. Darkness at this time of year is depressing for a lot of people. If your medical regimen allows it, take plenty Vitamin C. Be gentle with yourself, you've been through a lot. Hope you will soon be feeling better again
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Wow ... right on.. if only a good cry would help.. I would have loads to cry about, but then also so much to be greatful.  The strong emotions both ways are possibly the biggest issue just now. maybe that tug of war is messing with me.  I might just feel a little better just with your words.

As for Magnesium, I am taking it, but the blues almost co-insided with me taking the tripple M -when I started to feel crappy.  But that must be co-incidence.. It is the food, but also the frustration of not understanding the why of cancer.  Oh Yes I know, all in my fam have it, but why, even with BTD?  NO its not the BTD that gave it, but pushed out the getting Cancer pushed out way farther, that I am certain of.  

I am frsustrated and feeling out of 'having' control.  Its not the cancer that bothers me (no issue with that- I grew up with cancer all around me) but the matter of fact that it is supposed to be a big deal.    What is the big deal about it? that is what I do not get.. it is bejond my reach to figure this out.  Interestingly I was foretold that I would have surgery last spring!!!!.. I also was told I would be OK ... Darn it I never remembered that  until just now.  

Oh well this will get better, and OH YES the non BTD foods make all the differences.. I know I would say that to anyone else who used the same thread words.. my own words would hount me.  

OK, I am going to set up a appointment with my sot-sayer.. understanding solar transitions will give me back 'control' equal to 'understanding.'   Some things are the way they are, and that is all there is to it.  (I have a great master in fortelling some things.... and ending some things as well.  

At this time in my life many who matter to me are leaving, or going away, and some of them are tragic and others a blessing, but the loss is still there.  I feel everyone who is gone before as if it was yesterday.  I just wish we could talk, or laugh, or visit over coffee.  I have no one to have a coffee afternoon with.  No one in my life is interested in such on event.. I miss that, used to be nice with old friends who made time for a cup of whatever.  

I will take TC again all on its own and hope that it will have that uplifting effect it had January 2012.  The trobble with some things that made me feel bette rthen and there, is not always able to be duplicated, the'high' is commonplace, and the blues have power of their own.  Thank G.od I do not have heavy depression, just feeling blue.. Oh well! At least I had good days to remember..  and they will come back again.  I will work toward..

Thanks for the pity party, I think I will feel better now..       

Interestingly, I could not have said the same words this morning, You ALL made it easy now.  Thanks from the bottom of my heart!    





Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Goldie, please know that most of us would LOVE to sit down and have coffee with you...In
a virtual space like this, often just sharing our feelings is helpful.  Another {{{{hug}}}}}}...glad to know you're feeling a bit better.    Always here for you....and for one another!


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I would love to sit with you over a cup of green tea!


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Sorry you're feeling down?! Must be hard with sunlight hours fading quicker to get enough Vit D and sunlight in general... Glad you're feeling supported here!!

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I'm sorry I didn't get to come to your house before I came to Houston. Since I still have menses I still notice things "never feel right for a day or two" like I can't pinpoint it. But most of my personality change for winter has to do with enough Vitamin D and omega 3's. Not even necessarily magnesium.


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Dearest Goldie,sorry to hear you are feeling "blue"...with all you´ve been through it is perfectly understandable. Definitely the shorter colder days affect our mood,I go along with the suggestions of adding Vitamin D and omega 3´s,if you don´t already.

An Ayurvedic practitioner told me many years ago not to hold back tears..a good cry is always ´cleansing´I find!!

But as for no-one to have a "coffee" with...I would dearly love to have a "cuppa and chat"  with you if it weren´t for the small obstacle of the Atlantic   But is there no-one in your neighbourhood you could even ´call on´who may be feeling more isolated during these darker months?

Hugs  


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Sorry you're feeling down and hope you're feeling better soon.  Good advice from others, and as they have said, Winter, Christmas can be depressing times for many, on top of other things, it's so dark and gloomy when you look outside.  Hugs to you (((Goldie))) xx
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Quoted from Goldie
I am at witts end.. I had felt great aftter taking TC and it lasted over the 1-2 years.. but suddenly I am miserable and tired all day again.  

I am going to start on TC again all by it own.. no other sups...  I am hoping it will just be a glitch..


TC, Membrosia, Rhodiola:

Good, Better, Best /
Never let it rest /
Until your good is better /
And your better's best!!!  

Never let go of THOSE  



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no 7 in the enneagram always tries to flew away from any kind of painful thoughts or feelings... this might be one of the culprits?! Relativirung von Negativsituationen u.a. dito!!! Alles Patterns der sogen. *persona* !  


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Goldie,
Losing people, no matter how you lose them is tough.  They leave gaps in our lives.
And if they leave us tragically even harder.
I experienced a few this summer and can relate.
I think those feelings around loss can sneak up on us.
Journaling an be helpful.
take care,
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Wow so many helpful words.. Thanaks loads.  You are my coffeclatch friends that is why I posted my trobbles here.  Virtual green tea, I like that.

Well I took my own advise and last night I took TC and felt better for hours, even stayed awake til midnight.  That D-Ribose is wonderful, just I think I need to take it early in the day and not after 3pm.. the old thread would have told me so...  I took some this morning and felt Ok all morning and now it is afternoon and time for another spoon.  

I also have on appointment on Friday with my astroglogist.. .  I mean he told me in April that I would have to be careful around driving.. ha, and I crashed my car into a tel pole while driving 5 miles on hour.. looking at construction, nver feeling the one second driving off the pavement and into the (most) close tel pole which was only a foot on the side of the road.  Had I driven reg speed that would never have happened.. haha

Then the tragedy of a lost young person on 4 july, and soon after my brother being released from this earth, and my cancer, oh well the stars really did foretell that and he correctly advised (interpreted) that I would be ok... even while dealing with health for the next decade even though I would be ok... I mean all in all... interesting to say the least.  

I think remembering all that was the key to feeling ok with the answer of why, why now, why, where?  If it is the stars then at least I do not have to feel guilty or responsible for having overlooked some thing.. I think indirectly that was my question of 'why, when, where'..   the answer seems so comfortable and making as much sense as all the other conversations I had.  Oh well providence..      


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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G oldie darling oxo from Ireland.

Now are you taking vit d supp of some sort? if so up the magnesium a lot eh?


you need some super positive vibs in your life dar g lings. keep saying to your self over and over while doing deep breathing exercise.


"I am relaxed and calm and getting healthy" oxo keep saying it and it will be so

instead of paying your astrologist, by a newspaper and spend the rest on Dr D supplements oxo


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good thoughts and expressions PCUK and I'd like to add to come along with the *healing mushies* ...

and as long as you identify yourselve with *your cancer* oum sigh... perhaps better to get into a certain openess and implement the following: my body shows up symptoms like...... so far so well you're giving yourselve all oportunities to heal!!!

I love the sentences of Don Miguel Ruiz so much: *be impeccable with your words*
*don't take anything personally*
*don't make assumptions*
*alwasy do your best*
*be sceptical but learn to listen*

c'mon Goldie shatzala, this isn't that hard to come along with changes... you can *do it* ...

p.s.

btw... no-body is...and no-body has........ anything


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I love the sentences of Don Miguel Ruiz so much: *be impeccable with your words*


*don't take anything personally*.................
*don't make assumptions*
*alwasy do your best*
*be sceptical but learn to listen*


I love truth, I can deal with facts, I have no issues with what is or has to be.  I am a realist, and I deal with what is today. Nothing more.. I spend my time getting on with life, never looking back nor much forward.  Ilearned to live in the moment - as that is what is real.

The cancer, like I said my family tree is full of that fruit, but also full of healthy survival.  My mom showed us kids how to leve life with all it has to offer, I saw... and I do the same.  We live what we see.

I am feeling much more in control of my day, I am taking TC twice a day, and it helps greatly... interestingly it's effects lasted for month after I stopped taking it.  Yet my sun sign is important to me.  I had counseling some many years ago that unloaded all guilt off of my shoulders.  It is not as if I followe the words, as is apparent in the fact that I forgot them, yet when I remembered the FORtelling then it took away loads of questions, and that is how I used the 'stars' wisdom.

He is the cheapest of all supps and advise, and just maybe this time I really had questions and answers no other doc. came close to even talk about.  Other people just have no clue what MY questions where, and so their advise no matter how good landed in the pail of frustration within me.

Now I am calm, seeing my truth, and living my good life-- as I would have done any way- but now I am at peace.  

Thanks all I appreciate your love.... and thanks for the many 'coffe and tea leaves, read for me on the here and now. THanks!



I learned something today.. Stress comes from adrenals, and I seem to stress many times of the day, therefore I also make hormones that are not good for me any more- related to breast cancer... So no caffeine any more .. now I have a 'reason' with UNderstanding.

Interesting.  I discovered it after sitting a while to relax my shinsplints after morning mile.  


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!

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Goldie shatzala...since I've implemented those sentences into my life... huge changes took place, incl. that I'll gave a try and still exercise on this; to take me and my needs for more guaranted and serious and that others are others but I don't need to fulfill always their needs first ... yyyeeehhhaaa even with 56 years... I'm able to change and to learn how NOT to practise...


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I'm linking Dr. D's thread about trehalose and it's anti-depressive effects for those who might have
missed reading it.

http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1374595814/

Goldie, are you using the DPN trehalose complex or just plain trehalose?  


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PC stands for Trehalose Complex..    I would call Trehalose plain just that,

Yet I have not bought any yet.  I do not use a pound of sugar for my guest in two years, and I do not bake.  I eat near all sugar in Grapejuice or Pineapples, or here and there on apple.  Diabetes leaves me not much freedom with it. Lucky for me I have made the (sugar) adjustment to few carbs long ago, so sugar is near no issue.  Worse is bread when I go out to eat.. Have more temptations with that when hungry waiting for food.  

I might just go nutty and bring a slice of Ezekiel to toast.. they would do it, if i could even buy it some where.... yet we seem not to be safe with that any more (grains)...

Now Dr D also made something called Membrosia Complex, with Trehalose, Lecitin from Soy, Ribose (no mention of D-Ribose), Uridine, L-Glutamine..    

http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NP073  for more info.  

I was not able to detect any difference with this product, as I did with TC from the first day on. but fewer wrinkles?? haha ..  


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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PC stands for Trehalose Complex..    I would call Trehalose plain just that,

Yet I have not bought any yet.  I do not use a pound of sugar for my guest in two years, and I do not bake.  I eat near all sugar in Grapejuice or Pineapples, or here and there on apple.  Diabetes leaves me not much freedom with it. Lucky for me I have made the (sugar) adjustment to few carbs long ago, so sugar is near no issue.  Worse is bread when I go out to eat.. Have more temptations with that when hungry waiting for food.  

I might just go nutty and bring a slice of Ezekiel to toast.. they would do it, if i could even buy it some where.... yet we seem not to be safe with that any more (grains)...

Now Dr D also made something called Membrosia Complex, with Trehalose, Lecitin from Soy, Ribose (no mention of D-Ribose), Uridine, L-Glutamine..    


That's what I take (DH too)....the new membrosia complex combo...Can't say for sure that I notice anything
different from the formula I made in my own kitchen and took for about 2 years....using flax oil, lecithin, 2 uridine pills plus juice...This formula contains a mix of oils, and like you said, the powder contains all the other ingredients..But I'm getting far less uridine, far less lecithin than
I previously was.  And now tiny amounts of trehalose and ribose...but can't determine the effects
of either.

Will go back to the clinic in Feb...with DH and we both get another Bioimpedence test.  Will
see if we've made improvements in our phase angle.

Was a membrosia drink prescribed for you?

And are you drinking the grape juice?  Wondering if it affected your blood sugar.

I've brought my own rice pasta to restaurants to make for us...Also spelt English muffins
for DH I take to the diner when he wants to eat omelettes and requires toast to round out his meal....Most restaurants will accommodate your
dietary requests....although they usually will tell you that they can't sequester your food from
other food they keep in the kitchen.....that is assuming you've got some severe allergy,
are profoundly gluten intolerant and would be afraid of cross contamination...Generally, restaurants will toast, cook my food I bring from home, if I ask if they'd mind.  Places we
frequent don't mind at all.







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TC works.. the Membrain fluidzer I am not fond of.. I hate fish taste and it repeats on me..

I am drinking diluted grapejuice.. and I am not certain about anything.. for now.. this all takes time for me.. I have patience..

Then also B12 I am afraid of.. it is supposed to counteracting the diabetes Meds- Metformin-  but I am afraid to get hungry from it..








Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Goldie, somehow I have this feeling that I'd better tell you what I am telling myself all the time: Please switch the emphasis of your personal nutrition to vegetables. Focus on them and invest in them. Be generous with them. Money is not the issue here, investing time and imagination is. To talk about this a bit, tons of them are markedly sweet. Red bell pepper, carrots, sweet potatoes, organic long beet roots. Nutbutter squash. Some of the greens I find fascinating. Steamed swiss chard is so pleasant to put in the mouth, so smooth and soft, that I hardly remember eating it. The cruciferous are tougher, but fresh broccoli becomes soft enough when steamed, and drizzled with OO and squeezed lemon it becomes sheer delicatessen. With crushed garlic: shhhhh... too exciting. Be generous with fresh herbs. Just keep adding fresh parsley, whole/chopped, in every pot, sprinkle it on every piece of fish. They are the key to the desired good mood - nothing else is needed!!! This is not a secret, just a little switch is required and there you are.


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yaeli, what you're saying should apply to all of us.  Words of wisdom  


"The happiest people don't have the best of everything.....they know how to make the best of everything!"
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yaeli, what you're saying should apply to all of us.  Words of wisdom  
Thanks what can I say, the simplest of the basics... just so obvious that it sometimes evades us unawares...  


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After exercising a bit with vegetables, I may start to add some Winter spices, cinnamon, cloves.... They make the beet root water better the Gluehwein (spiced wine)  


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Goldie, somehow I have this feeling that I'd better tell you what I am telling myself all the time: Please switch the emphasis of your personal nutrition to vegetables. Focus on them and invest in them. Be generous with them. Money is not the issue here, investing time and imagination is. To talk about this a bit, tons of them are markedly sweet. Red bell pepper, carrots, sweet potatoes, organic long beet roots. Nutbutter squash. Some of the greens I find fascinating. Steamed swiss chard is so pleasant to put in the mouth, so smooth and soft, that I hardly remember eating it. The cruciferous are tougher, but fresh broccoli becomes soft enough when steamed, and drizzled with OO and squeezed lemon it becomes sheer delicatessen. With crushed garlic: shhhhh... too exciting. Be generous with fresh herbs. Just keep adding fresh parsley, whole/chopped, in every pot, sprinkle it on every piece of fish. They are the key to the desired good mood - nothing else is needed!!! This is not a secret, just a little switch is required and there you are.


Goldie, just as Yaeli has described, life is a celebration to be savored!  But as she's suggested, we need to forge adult-like relationships with food and eating.  Everyone comes late to this understanding, but only when we finally do will we discover that our habits and their consequences are entirely our choice.

I've battled depression my entire life. Only in the past few years have I been in a position to correct it at will because for me at least, there is always a nutritional component that pulls me down the rabbit hole, so to speak. Here is where the doubts, the fear, the sorrow have their way. But thanks to Dr.D., with this newfound knowledge, I go forward towards healing. Nutritionally. Emotionally.

What happens if I tell myself  "I deserve this donut", or "I can't give up this food", or "just every now and then..."?  My health is compromised and I suffer. So I don't, and I feel great about that.






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I hate fish taste and it repeats on me..

It repeats because your gut bacteria are not correct to digest it properly.  The way to deal with this is to take some per type probiotic with it and take some daily for several weeks.  This would solve the repeating and once the repeating was done, the body would probably realize that there was good it needs from the fish and your tastes would change to it being acceptable or even good.


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I am thinking, we are leading here polite, well-mannered conversations. We mean well, we mean to support. But this doesn't mean that the knowledge that Dr. D has been passing to us is some kind of option, like a buffet offered to us to choose from or reject at will or per transient moods/desires. I think it's important to understand, that this knowledge is the real thing, the true rules, the pillars that are going to help us to re-connect to health and life. This is the way I see BTD/GTD/SWAMI: the very choice to live.


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I am thinking, we are leading here polite, well-mannered conversations. We mean well, we mean to support. But this doesn't mean that the knowledge that Dr. D has been passing to us is some kind of option, like a buffet offered to us to choose from or reject at will or per transient moods/desires. I think it's important to understand, that this knowledge is the real thing, the true rules, the pillars that are going to help us to re-connect to health and life. This is the way I see BTD/GTD/SWAMI: the very choice to live.


......thank you yaeli for saying this.  It's something I've wished I could find the words to express.  
Eloquently spoken  .  Dr. D's  knowledge IS the real thing....



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I am thinking, we are leading here polite, well-mannered conversations. We mean well, we mean to support. But this doesn't mean that the knowledge that Dr. D has been passing to us is some kind of option, like a buffet offered to us to choose from or reject at will or per transient moods/desires. I think it's important to understand, that this knowledge is the real thing, the true rules, the pillars that are going to help us to re-connect to health and life. This is the way I see BTD/GTD/SWAMI: the very choice to live.

Well said.


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I am thinking, we are leading here polite, well-mannered conversations. We mean well, we mean to support. But this doesn't mean that the knowledge that Dr. D has been passing to us is some kind of option, like a buffet offered to us to choose from or reject at will or per transient moods/desires. I think it's important to understand, that this knowledge is the real thing, the true rules, the pillars that are going to help us to re-connect to health and life. This is the way I see BTD/GTD/SWAMI: the very choice to live.


                                                     Golden  

Goldie, you know you believe. Be the strong woman you know you are.



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    words to support and set one streight... YES I love them all and you..

I feel way better and now I need to do this:

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Goldie, somehow I have this feeling that I'd better tell you what I am telling myself all the time: Please switch the emphasis of your personal nutrition to vegetables. Focus on them and invest in them. Be generous with them. Money is not the issue here, investing time and imagination is. To talk about this a bit, tons of them are markedly sweet. Red bell pepper, carrots, sweet potatoes, organic long beet roots. Nutbutter squash. Some of the greens I find fascinating. Steamed swiss chard is so pleasant to put in the mouth, so smooth and soft, that I hardly remember eating it. The cruciferous are tougher, but fresh broccoli becomes soft enough when steamed, and drizzled with OO and squeezed lemon it becomes sheer delicatessen. With crushed garlic: shhhhh... too exciting. Be generous with fresh herbs. Just keep adding fresh parsley, whole/chopped, in every pot, sprinkle it on every piece of fish. They are the key to the desired good mood - nothing else is needed!!! This is not a secret, just a little switch is required and there you are.


Tnx..


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dear goldie, it's really a common thing when the holidays are just around the corner, especially christmas. i don't know you guys but i must say about myself that every christmas time i feel a sort of .....sadness and panic almost that i couldn't describe with words.
i think it is because i'm single from......centuries. anyway, be focused, breathe and check on the blog ..as you see you're not alone and, more than this, you are not the only one with this feelings.
love


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am i depressed? off and on, I've got plenty to be stressed about between finances and baby and yet also plenty to balance it out. i have plenty of friends who help me every way they can and family who help fill in the gaps along with a hubby who loves me. baby should be exciting but it is more a mixed bundle at the moment.
what do i do about it? I've had a couple of good frustrated cries after a few more wild angry vents. i'm so glad i am not as volatile as i was 10 years ago. i do a lot of introspection "why do i feel this way?" type stuff.
i drink extra coaco and make myself move. right now it is worst after dark because there just are not enouph lights in this house so i resort to funny/stupid movies to make me smile. the less sence the movie makes and the farther from reality the better. mostly i look for things to occupy my mind other than my problems. terry pratchett's disk world book seires (of which i have almost all of them) works every time and with well over forty of them to chose from one of them is bound to amuse.


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Yes, just acckonowledging the truth often helps..

I think I wore my bra to tight and it cut off all proper digestion.. Then I switched back to stick ons and all is better there also..

Movement is important.. cleaning house is important.. makes me feel more secure.. and secure feels good.




Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Yes, just acknowledging the truth often helps..
ALWAYS    


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Yes, just acckonowledging the truth often helps..



   “Watch your thoughts; they become words.
    Watch your words; they become actions.
    Watch your actions; they become habit.
    Watch your habits; they become character.
    Watch your character; it becomes your destiny.”

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