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yaeli
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Goldie perhaps you can call the clinic and ask them if they can give you alternatives for the perparation with the fish oil and the whey powder.

Both these items are a punishment for me. In our childhood we were given a tablespoon of cod liver oil immediately followed by a glass of fresh oragne juice (an avoid of course, but of course we had no idea) to ease on the horrible taste.

Whey powder is even worse for me, I cannot have it no matter what. Sensing even its faintest smell makes me run away.


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No i have no issues with the subs.. well... but you see at 250- a month it becomes on issue fast.  I have a freezer full of things I never finished.

If I had a choice I would have way more money for foods that make all the differences.  The foods would last for years, like so far coffee is good for Altzheimers, as is Trehalose Complex, mushrooms one a day, or asparagus, cooked any old way, onions all are cancer prevention.  I will have to decide what I can afford for years to come.  Years and I was told decades as I am going to get old!!!!

I had not received the Deep Blue food lists, but have asked it to be sent to me, I am exited to get it and then learn from it. I am going to look for foods that inhibit Estrogen.

Coloful foods will be much fun.. I am prepared to buy all sort of new foods honoring the research done by Dr D.  read my next post.  


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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One of my Doctors called me today:  Goodmorning I am Dr sosos .  Your bone density test is great. You have the bones of a young person!!!!!!!! Goodby.

And that without milk or dairy for 4 decades!  

DR D.  here is the proof that Your research is corrct!  O's do not need dairy to walk up straight, and be strong. Well done!   and you deserve all the credit.  

Yes I do get my calcium from meat!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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I just took the fish oil by the spoon holding my nose and washed it down with Membrosia and Grapejuice!  it worked... I can do it..  

and....

I just remembered that I can look up all sups right here on line.. i just had to go to Eat Right 4 Your Type.com   I forgot about that site.. I wonder is it even listed here some place????

am in the process of reading this as written about Helix plus.. as I am typing and bringing here I am just laughing out loud... I would have to sit and make flip-cards to get half of the words.. but yes I will read up more and study.. Laugh with me please..

Go here and read..

http://www.dadamo.com/B2blogs/blogs/index.php/2006/03/19/helix-plus-burgundy-snail?blog=26


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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I just remembered that I can look up all sups right here on line.. i just had to go to Eat Right 4 Your Type.com   I forgot about that site.. I wonder is it even listed here some place????

If you look at the right end of the dark blue bar above, you see "Products and Services" in the next to last position. Mouse over this and click on any of the items in the drop down menu to go to that part of the 4yourtype.com site.
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am in the process of reading this as written about Helix plus.. as I am typing and bringing here I am just laughing out loud... I would have to sit and make flip-cards to get half of the words.. but yes I will read up more and study.. Laugh with me please..

Go here and read..

http://www.dadamo.com/B2blogs/blogs/index.php/2006/03/19/helix-plus-burgundy-snail?blog=26

The self-learning is all about keeping an online dictionary handy so we can break apart concepts we don't understand and add in as much definition as we need to be able too understand it...  The more you learn, the less you have to break down, so the faster it becomes...  Much success in your learning process, although, don't spend so much time that your exercise gets neglected...!!!


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Much success in your
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learning process, although, don't spend so much time that your exercise gets neglected...!!
!

Ohhhh i got caught!!!

well now then I have a question.. if the helix is good for a and AB  ,, hiw long would I O take it?  for life?  for 5 years?  I wonder..

I sure never thought I would eat snail!!   


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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if the helix is good for a and AB  ,, hiw long would I O take it?  for life?  for 5 years?  I wonder..

I sure never thought I would eat snail!!   

I think this is a question best answered by your practitioner...

While it is specifically designed for the A/AB groups, doesn't mean that it won't work or will cause issues if used by the other types - just that it is more specific to those types.  

It may be that since you have a personal history of cancer that they think it best that you maintain a constant presence to reduce the possibility of return of the specific type you had.

There really are too many variables for me to know what they based their decisions on.


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Much success in your!

Ohhhh i got caught!!!

well now then I have a question.. if the helix is good for a and AB  ,, hiw long would I O take it?  for life?  for 5 years?  I wonder..

I sure never thought I would eat snail!!   


All supplements given to you at the clinic are to be used until you return to the clinic to be re-evaluated.  Were you told when to make another appointment?  Most patients who have ongoing
medical issues return every 6 months....at least this has been mine and my husband's experience
and often our supplements change....many are eliminated, often we get new formulas to take.

You probably were given a bioimpedence test which measured how well your cells were able to
absorb nutrients.  So this has less to do with what you're presently taking but how much your
cell membranes have softened and allowed nutrients to enter and do your body good.  Each
time you return to the clinic, this test is repeated as part of your exam and progress is noted
which tells the practitioners if you're getting healthier or not.

To know from visit to visit if you're improving makes a huge difference in what comes next
with your supplements.

The integrity of your cells has everything to do with staying healthy....so I'd have imagined you
were told before you left the clinic when it was recommended for you to return.  This really shouldn't be a one time visit and supplements you were given that day to be taken forever.  If you're NOT going to go the route of conventional medicine, I really suggest you keep yourself updated with your own progress by having regular clinic visits.  This is too big an issue to just believe you can handle your current state of health without some type of ongoing alternative medical support.  At least this is my belief and how I perceive moving forward towards better health.

So your question really should be posed to Dr. Doyle....None of us really can play a great role
in the medical care that the clinic staff is providing for you.



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If you look at the right end of the dark blue bar above, you see "Products and Services" in the next to last position. Mouse over this and click on any of the items in the drop down menu to go to that part of the 4yourtype.com site.


I tried it, but no dice.. I will look some further.. It should be easier...


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Chloe... You are right in what yu say.. I mull over what I find of interest.  I am no doubt happy to have gone there,I am no doubt believing that it is worth it to support my life/body with nutrients not available elsewhere.  I will be much more educated later when I had several visits..

I am indeed going to get new evaluations, and updtaes..  I am happy that you are there getting well.  I lready paid for the upcoming visit.. committment.


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!

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Chloe... You are right in what yu say.. I mull over what I find of interest.  I am no doubt happy to have gone there,I am no doubt believing that it is worth it to support my life/body with nutrients not available elsewhere.  I will be much more educated later when I had several visits..

I am indeed going to get new evaluations, and updtaes..  I am happy that you are there getting well.  I lready paid for the upcoming visit.. committment.


I can't tell you how happy it made me feel that you went to the clinic.  I hope you know you're
in good hands!  Write down all your questions for next visit. If I can help you answer any of them
I will...but care is so personal and specific, often the only people who know the answers are the
clinic staff!  

I do happen to know that helix is appropriate for blood type A.  I have snails listed as a beneficial
on my professional SWAMI.



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I have no answers, I have no questions, I have no long term plan.

I have 1000. a month to spend.  I have no issues with trying this or that, but I wish to know what I need to know about what i am taking.

I owe it to all to read about each item in Eat Right 4 Your Type. I owe a lot: to get educated, to apply what I know to what I need to know.

I see that I have to make on effort to overcome the burping from the fish oils.. yak.. I need to see what foods will be listed in Deep Blue.

Deep Blue is one color, is there a deep orange for diabetes?  Do you have a deep anything in your protocols?  (the black and white paper-copies are not working for this.. I am waiting for the color copies, (at a cost) and or I am awaiting two month when Dr D was promising to make big changes in my SWAMI.. I can wait.. I did not get sick over night i have time...    


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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I need to see what foods will be listed in Deep Blue.

Deep Blue is one color, is there a deep orange for diabetes?  Do you have a deep anything in your protocols?    


Deep Blue is an option only available in SWAMI GenoType.

There is no deep orange.

Deep Blue refers to a a computer system made by IBM. It was used to run an artificial intelligence program

It was the first computer system that was able to defeat a human chess player at the world master level.

More info at:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Blue_(chess_computer)




In SWAMI GenoType the deep blue setting is used to kick in an Artificial Intelligence agent. This agent scans the food lists and adjust the values assigned to foods to accomplish particular things. These changes are primarily based on treating a particular condition (rather than ranking food based on blood type or GenoType values).

The setting that tells the Deep Blue agent to adjust food values for "oncology management" is thought to be particularly good.

There are other deep blue adjustment options.

I have not used any of the non cancer settings in deep blue.

There was a planned deep blue option that would adjust food lists to contain foods with elements that enhance insulin sensitivity.

To my knowledge this option is not fully implemented at this time.

Even if this option was available you would only be able to select one
deep blue option at a time.


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Thanks for the info..

I was interested in deciding what foods might be of importance for my diabetes..  

I had cancer last month and had it for about 2 years... I took it out and am fine as far as that is concerned.. I need to find out just what the likelihood is of getting another cancer, where and how soon?

I had a stage 1 cancer, so no metastatic.. no spreading.. My breast was NOT radiated all over just a small spot... very different from other methods.. I might be able to have several such spots being operated on... BECAUSE I did not get radiation ALL over my breast as is done generally.  This is a BIG difference.. and NEW to everybody.

On the other hand more importantly.. as far as I am looking at my long term health, is my Diabetic status.  

That I can and must do something about.  I must drop weight, I must adhere to that eating plan and that does not include all the fruit which is beneficial for cancer..  

One of the fruits now is grapejuice, I can manage it for both conditions!!!

In the Cancer Swami it is showing as neutral... But dr D advised to drink grapejuice... You can bet your bottom dollar that I am listening as if it was the word of god!  I will drink grapejuice.  

In the old diabetic SwAMI grapejuice is also neutral.. so it is one of the very few neutrals i will include in my meal plan for sure without question.

I am looking for way more things like that..

I love my paper SWAMI with the blue colr highlited foods good for Cancer... fun to study and compare..  


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Are you supposed to dilute the grape juice or drink it as is?  How much can you drink at a time?  Just wondering!


Sirach 37:27
For not every food is good for everyone, nor is everything suited to every taste.



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Grapejuice, 6-8 oz glass or cup : Frequency: 3 servings daily

Fruits: 1 cup or 1 large Fruit: Frequency 2 servings daily.

For cancer care that is great.  No doubt the pigmented/color nourishes the cells.

I would wonder if it means fruits AND juice??????    If it was not for the diabetes in my case, then I think it would be just right.

For mom an apple or two would have been the norm, and I would have anyone with cancer do that.................  Apples is NOW a superfood for me as 'secretor'?!? wow.

But not blue type reserved for cancer...  In applejuice it is best avoided!!!

I guess the pigmented color food is what is good.

For my constant battle to drop weight (for diabetes) it is I think more than I could handle unless I dilute the sugar by AT the least drink lots of water with it.    

After the many years with diabetes, I find many things to sweet, juices is one of these.  

Before bed time a slice of apple is supposed to be good for indigestion/ good for th colon too?  

However I think that hydration is the issue here for me, as I have a hard time drinking most anything.  ... so becoming inventive once again is of high value.

one other thing... the change of apple status is interesting, need to look at more foods that were avoids before... interesting in the very least.




Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Grapejuice, 6-8 oz glass or cup : Frequency: 3 servings daily

Thanks Goldie. This is a a LOT (of sugar)!!!   As Chloe suggested, maybe this dosage is for a limited time.


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Grapejuice, 6-8 oz glass or cup : Frequency: 3 servings daily

Fruits: 1 cup or 1 large Fruit: Frequency 2 servings daily.

For cancer care that is great.  No doubt the pigmented/color nourishes the cells.

I would wonder if it means fruits AND juice??????    If it was not for the diabetes in my case, then I think it would be just right.

The juice ratings are listed under "Beverages", while the whole fruit is listed in "Fruits".


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snails... y u m m y... des escargots à la provencale....
a lot of garlic, fatty acids ...fresh herbs... what do I want more... some fresh
baguette... of course and a glass of Bordeaux....


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Goldie, if seltzer is still beneficial for you, you could make grape soda!


My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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... what do I want more... some fresh
baguette... of course and a glass of Bordeaux....




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quote]The juice ratings are listed under "Beverages", while the whole fruit is listed in "Fruits".[/quote]

Dr D advised Grapejuice for my serious cancer prevention in future.  He meant it real serious.  So grapejuice it would be - he did not say how much- but meant grape juice.  So for me it will be as much as I can handle.  

I think diluting it is not the issue, it would trigger diabetes spikes either way.  It is the total amount all through out the day that will matter- yes diluted will give me more liquid... just as important.

As cancer prevention it will be juice, not grapes.    

Yet, with the answers on the list in different places, would that normally mean both grapes and juice should/ought could or would be Intended


I am never certain about those multy listings like grains and veg proteins, all that food? -- in eggs, meat, fish or chicken it is easy -- one for each meal. But for O's would you ever do beans and meat? would that be 2 proteins? just asking..

A man working outdorrs in winter might be able to eat so and stay slimmIF he has the best genes that do not look at food as a fat making machine.  

Those who are diagnosed as future diabetics - as we should all be aware of who are Gatheres to begin with- we all are in that murky genepool.. should we all  consider eating for diabetes prevention starting at age 20.   In some way I actually did.. as I need to drop weight ever since.

..and still my food needs today are so little, there is no way of eating normal portions any more.  I admit I am not doing the exercising I should.  Guilty but I just do not get any pleasure out of it, yet often pain.  Lucky I have bone density levels of a 20 year old, same with kidney health..  

as for grapejuice I forfeit all other sweets to be able to drink it.  This is where Dr. D. gets my total attention.

I am bringing my sugar down every 2 week by 10 points.  I am eating protein and low carb (striving for 30 carbs)... I must drop some weight and stay sugar free/except for the grapejuice for now.  It is a nice treat to swig a mouthful here and there.

Today I will make a greens soup if I get to town.  I have not decided if it will be green leafy when I will eat it- al dente for the green leaves- or pureed when I have another plate for dinner. Have not done that ever, so will be new to my pallet.    


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!

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I wonder if combining the daily portion of grape juice with your daily portion of water would be good to do and you could sip that throughout the day?


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that is somewhat what I do... anything to help me drink water.


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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8 glasses of water daily is not so much if you consider all the supps:

1glass lemon water

2-3 glasses: 1 with each dosage of deflect

1 glass with the Membrosia Combo

4 glasses of green tea

- we are at 8 already!

Water is much easeier to drink together with some compliant juice.


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