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Chloe
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Goldie,I'm so glad to hear the surgery went well and that this is behind you.  Focusing on your diabetes now is the best thing you can do to live the healthiest life possible.... Wishing you my very best!  


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Goldie, likewise I'm thrilled that the surgery all went so well for you, get better, best, soon lass


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all questions are answered all is well. small 2/5 cm opening and out cam the bu**er.  Another under the arm and all being supported as pulling on stitches id no fun.

I am resting and enjoying the comfort of home.  Friend brought lunch, and another is cooking dinner, and I am the recipient of many phone calls.  

I will elaborate on the how and what tomorrow, feeling lazy just now..  


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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So glad you checked in and are well (:

I once read through Dr Lee's books that adding progesterone cream (only a few sources appear to be safe) to the breast after an injury/surgery increases chances of recovery. If you want, when I am at home I can look up what he has to say, just let me know.


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Interestingly I have accidentally used a cream with progesterone, a drop at a time, over the last few month on my fingernails.  I was just using whatever was near me, it was easy.  

My finger nails were very bad, they completley recovered and feel stronger again.

Yes please let me know.. I would be much interested.  I have this cream and I could use it.  

I expect to be fine.. I expect that I will be ok all around.  The cancer is not my issue, I need to focus on keeping me healthier to make the work of all the doctors worth it and appreciated.  My diabetes is on issue but I got a wake up call and I intend to do way better.  NOW I have a reason..

The scar on by left breast is circulr around the nipple, and streight under the arm.  I appreciate the circular scar as that is most likely much less bothersome as it heals.  like putting a round peg in a round hole works better than the squere peg trying to fit in a round situtaion.    I think he must have taken about a one inch/one inch mass, total and the effects are minimal.  

The scvar under the arm is sore since he took what is called a Sentinal Node/gland out to have it tested.  It seemed clear so no others would be needed.  Should the pathology come back unclear then the next node would becoem the new Sential node and so on and so on.  I expect no issues.

I was lucky that I had the Year to play with.. stupid in hine sight, but I learnead that ignornace is not bliss.

I was ignorant about my diabetic meds.. I was misunderstanding their value, and so negelected to do right.  I think sometime reading  what we do here, might give us a sense of 'superiority' of knowledge, and we might be somewhat arrogant.  

I think I needed to ask many questions, but truley, I did not know what the questions should have been.  Live and learn and staying open minded is most important.  I think I learned a big lesson.

I still have not read all the above, still feel sleepy, but I will..

Thanks all and your support is appreciated.. and I will listen...  


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Goldie....Before you consider using progesterone cream, make certain this tumor was triple negative....for estrogen, for progesterone and for HER2.  If you had a progesterone sensitive tumor, you want to stay far far away from using that cream.

Be very careful taking any medical advice from forum members, even though all are well intended.  Most of us aren't professionals and progesterone is a hormone that can feed a cancer cell ((if your particular tumor
is responsive to progesteron) and turn into tumor!  Please wait and get the right advice from the clinic.  The shift and Dr. D will get you on the road towards better health.


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I am not jumping, taking your advice to heart.  The tumor, a small spot the size of   and is not bigenough to be called a tumor.. I mean forget about feeling such items.. not possible..

I am following Doctors right now on diabetes and will make great efforts to be compliant.  That will help in the repairing of the wounds from the surgery.  

I have no after effects from the surgery and nothing on the radiation which was done during surgery.. I feel remarkably fine.


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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What a wonderful update!

Be sure to take care of yourself, and remember that allopathic medicine isn't evil. It's powerful, and often over used or misused,  but there are times when drugs and surgery can do what diet, exercise, and supplements just can't. If you need to use medication to keep your blood sugar stable, then that's what you need to do. It's one more tool to use, along with diet, exercise, and supplements, to keep you in optimal health.

Right now, the top priority is healing from the surgery.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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After surgery Report..

THANK you ALL  ... I know I am in your thoughts and that many well wishes came to me... I have not ignored the love... I am feeling great .  

The surgery was nothing to speak of ...

I was lucky to have been in a surgical proceedure/program that allowed me to be on the forefront of what is standard.  

I received UP to DATE treatment.  

I was number 70 to have received a lumpectomy WITH radiation localized to the open wound WHILE in surgery.  THIS is up and coming.

I was at NY Hospital, and others will do the same in the next years.  Look for info in the news papers ... You might have read about it last weekend in some of the papers.  

Radiation only where needed - not on the whole breast.  I got lucky all around.

My waiting the year (stupid-but it worked out to my advantage-) by going to NY for surgery I received this type of radiation to be very localized and finished in one sitting.. I have no ill effects.  

Big sister can be annoying, but she was there to help all around and stayed with me all the way!  

I have two incisions, one circle one near the nipple/ 2.5 inches, where the small spot was, and another straight line 2.5 inches under the arm for one nodule removal, to make sure the cancer had not metastisid yet.  

I got lucky.  The cancer is so small, even though I (stupidly) did not react to its 'existence' last year / when I was examined by a surgeon at my local Doctors office... .. Some had to do with the doctor having annoyed me... That doctor pocked painfully under the breast to find any lump... after finding 5 on one side, I told him that that was enough to test further.. It was painful... He was somewhat arrogant... and never really talked properly... in fact I was unaware until this month that he was looking at a cancer under the cyst!!! ... He had found it, but did not communicate well enough.  He wanted more tests - but I did not see it his way... he had not been forthright... he left me somewhat ‘ignorant’ of the facts as he suspected them to be. he may not be all guilty but he also did not follw up correctly.. we both made errors then...

At the time I was to annoyed at the doctor because he was arrogant and painful... and he had never spelled out in so many words that I had cancer 10 month ago... .. I will make proper notifications to that doctor soon enough...  

The current doctors all- did not pocke hurt me- and did not annoy me, and explained all with a sense of respect.  

I had sent my last year’s mammogram and the other findings to the NY doctor my sister went to, for a second opinion...

I was shocked when she communicated that I had a small cancer under the cyst, and that I needed to follow up on that.  This was news to me...

...................even though I had seen the primary doctor often during that year... when I asked my reg doctor to read what the first cancer specialist doctor /surgeon had said, he was shocked that cancer was then already suspected but I had not reacted to it.....

Interestingly, I do not have cancer in the lumps under my breast where the original doctor pocked at...

Instead I had a small spot way higher AND I DID NOT EVER feel that one!!!!!!!!!! To small. To hidden... I GOT LUCKEY!  

I have a round incision 2.5 inches, around the nipple, and about one inch of tissue missing.  Really localized... Under my arm I have a straight incision about 2.5 inches where they removed the first and so far only lymph node.  I expect that one sentry gland to be the only one needed to be removed for testing, as it had not metastasized (travel) yet... ... I GOT LUCKEY!!!!!! I expect to be fine...

In essence this was a piece of cake!  The surprise was that I got a cancer... NOW! All in mom’s family had cancer... Grandpapa, Mom, Brother, Sister, Nieces and Nephews...  

I am lucky indeed, and yet- I never suspected to get cancer... I had a very false sense of security of being my father’s child with diabetes...  Instead I am also mom’s child with inherited cancer genes.  I feel grateful for all that I know and have done right, but now I have a sense of responsibility to do better as far as diabetes is concerned... I owe the ones before me to do RIGHT.

I got lucky, I had insurance!!!!!!  I had no fear! I had experienced cancer in my family all my life, and yet I was never afraid... I was less careful about getting tested until "I" saw a need.STUPID!.

I know that I got realllllly lucky!!!

I got lucky on several places/// one:  the first surgeon doctor did not follow up properly - and my primary never saw his notes... so I never received any writing as to what the surgeon suspected- and I was not operated on by him... instead :

My Sisters Doctor in NY sounded the alarm and followed through...  within three weeks I am now cancer free again...  and I got the least amount of radiation.... experimental... very localized instead of the entire breast...  [u]I got lucky/u], as the waiting the year to follow up might not have done me more damage...  

I liked all the NY doctors, they where so Gentle that I could not even feel their examinations... so - no need to pocke and hurt me... a lesson learned.. If you do not care for your doctor CHANGE to a new one...

I must admit that I was at fault for some of the experience with the first one, but still....

And YET, by waiting the time, I went to another doctor who is doing this BRAND NEW procedure of doing radiation while the (cancer removed) wound was still open... I might not have gone to the NY doctor if the first one had been pleasant... and then I would have received radiation on the whole breast... I got lucky!!!!    

Any one here wanting more info just ask all the questions you can think of... I will answer or ask my doctors for info...  

I am my mother’s daughter and my father’s daughter... I am very respectful of the doctors that where available to me.  I am pleased to be so optimistic and here to tell the story for a long time to make a difference where it might matter.  I am grateful.  
    









  


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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So sorry I didnt see your reply yesterday. I will try to look for more info tonight, but here is what I have in my brain.

I use happy pms cream when I need it. The least expensive place I have found for it http://www.organicblessings.com/womens_health.html

My doctors have approved my use of pc. Dr Lee said something in his book about applying it after surgery/injury. I will surely look for what he said soon.

Also many PC brands will say can cause cancer, and they can, there are very few that are considered safe. So Chloe is right, check the brand you were using on your nails to be sure its

Dr John Lee MD has previews into his books on his website:
http://www.johnleemd.com/
he also has a safer version of prog cream (PC)

This book is the one I will check for info for you, but you may also go to a book store and read for free or buy it. You can sometimes get a free audio book on audible.com, usually through amazon I think.
http://www.johnleemd.com/store/more_breastcancer.html


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Ruthygirl..

I am so glad to read this..

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Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Goldie,
I was at my endocrinologist's yesterday and didn't see your posts until just now.  I'm so glad the surgery is over and it went well.  It reminds me of my thyroid surgery in 1996.  I had a benign parathyroid adenoma that was removed and they decided because of my history or radiation as a child to remove the thyroid at the same time.  They had seen something very very small on the ultrasound.  It turned out to be thyroid cancer and it was caught very early.  All of that plus my ulcerative colitis is what brought me here.

So happy that it went well and wasn't too uncomfortable.  I'll be anxious to hear that you are progressing well and hopefully that Dr. D will have great suggestions for you when you see him soon.

((((HUGS))))
Jane
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Just found this tonight. I'm so glad our prayers were answered & that you are doing so well!

This new method of treatment sounds interesting.  You are a pioneer!


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Thank you for sharing your experience with us.  I am glad to hear you are on the road to recovery, all the best
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Are you going to look into or ask about the progesterone? I dont want to give more information or look into it and inform of things if its not of interest. Feel free to PM me to reply to my prior messages.


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I got a clean bill of health at my followup with the surgeon..


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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Quoted from Goldie
I got a clean bill of health at my followup with the surgeon..


Goldie .. I am not in these forums as often as I should, considering how important this way of life is for me, so I have only now find out what has been going on with your life for the last few weeks!!!!  Oh, I am so glad to see you are on the mend after the cancer surgery and that you will see Dr D's clinic soon too.  I know that you will get that diabetics state out of your system soon enough and look forward to hearing about your healing experiences ... Big hugs and thumbs up for your inspiring attitude and outlook in life, whatever it has to offer.   Yes, as usual, you are an inspiration ...




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Today I have survived a full week since my surgery... I had no ill effects and am certain that all is well.  The two scars are just fine lines, and on the inside the breast tissue has a small indent and there is some hardness.  I was told that it would go away as soon as the tissue had a chance to heal and allow the swelling to diminish.    

Yet I learned much since this week and I am continuing the healing the rest of my body in the other thread:... Diabetes a  n e w look for our gene inheritance.   

And possibly over this weekend I will read up on all the suggestions made here.  I know I have a few questions. Re-reading all your supportive posts will be a pleasure... Thanks all.


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Hi Goldie, I am so glad that you are doing well!

A few days ago I got Jackfruit and you were in my thoughts so much that I wish I could share with all you guys.  Of course there is enough for everybody.

Also, I already looked up in the book that Jackfruit is a Cancer-Fighting Super Food for Type B, A, O and AB!

I just wanted to remind you of 2 more things:

Please don’t forget to breath! Yes. I read somewhere, it says:
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“Proper breathing requires the use of your diaphragm-the layer of muscle that separates your chest cavity and the lungs from the abdominal cavity. When you breathe properly, so as to fill the lower lungs, the diaphragm contracts and your belly sticks out. This allows the lungs to expand and fill with air. And here’s how to do it properly.

Visualize the air filling your lungs from the bottom all the way up. Place one hand on your abdomen and one hand on your chest. Inhale slowly and deeply through your nose into your abdomen to push up your hand as much as feels comfortable. Your chest should move only a little and only with your abdomen. For best results, take 10 breaths, 3 time a day in the following ratio:

1.Inhale for a count of 1
2.Hold for a count of 4
3.Exhale for a count of 2

You should use this breathing technique every day, especially when you feel tired, lack mental focus, are under stress, or experience anxiety.

This technique of breathing from the bottom up can also be used to maximize you oxygen intake prior, during, and after physical activity, which is the topic of the next section.
Move your body!

No course on getting healthy and vibrant would be complete without a discussion about exercise and its importance to you health. As you may know, your body actually has two circulatory systems:
1.Your cardiovascular system that is comprised of your heart and blood vessels that circulate blood to and from your lungs(and the rest of you body), and

2.Your lymphatic system that hauls away waste products and toxins from your muscles and tissues. In effect, your lymphatic system is the garbage collector of you body.

The human body has 15 pints of blood and a huge pump( the heart) to move it through your body. You also have 45 pints of lymph fluid and no pump to move it through your body.

The only way that your body can move the lymph fluids through your body is through muscle contractions that squeeze the lymph through a system of one way values. The lymph carries major toxins to your lungs where they are expelled from the body through breathing.

It is this lymphatic system that benefits greatly from daily exercise.  When we don’t move or exercise then gravity pulls the lymph downward and it becomes stagnant and the toxins that it would carry out of your body become stagnant as well.

This accumulation over time turns into premature aging along with ankle edema.

Besides, if the toxins are not successfully removed through the lymphatic system, they may start to back up in your tissues(swelling), joints (arthritis), lymph nodes(lymph disease and cancer), skin(pimples and blemishes), and various organs.”
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I would like to try rebounding exercise though, it may be more fun.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-S7EqJIwT7c&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSyoznc-B2s&feature=player_embedded
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I also love this one, it's only 20 minutes long makes me sweat.

http://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Body-Beginning-Workouts-Weight/dp/B0002PUDPA

Take care everyone.  


Right Food as Medicine.    GT3 Teacher SWAMI
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wow that was in debt.. Thanks.. very good to remind me of it all.. I have to find Jackfruit.. have no idea where from???? ..  


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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I had breast cancer in 1989, lumpectomy, radiation and chemo (standard back then even for stage 1).  The tumor was slightly estrogen receptor positive and much more progesterone receptor positive.  At the suggestion of my naturopath, and after having read Dr. Lee's work, I started using bioidentical progesterone cream in 1996.  I get it from a compounding pharmacy and use a very low dose twice a day.  I have not had a recurrence, and it will be 14 years in December, with 17 of those using progesterone cream.  YMMV as they say.
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I had breast cancer in 1989, lumpectomy, radiation and chemo (standard back then even for stage 1).  The tumor was slightly estrogen receptor positive and much more progesterone receptor positive.  At the suggestion of my naturopath, and after having read Dr. Lee's work, I started using bioidentical progesterone cream in 1996.  I get it from a compounding pharmacy and use a very low dose twice a day.  I have not had a recurrence, and it will be 14 years in December, with 17 of those using progesterone cream.  YMMV as they say.



That is such great news cindyt. I'm curious.... if a tumor is progesterone receptor positive why is natural progesterone cream effective?  It would seem to me that progesterone was helping your
tumor to grow.  Obviously not.  Just an interesting perspective because I'm happy to hear you're
a 14 year survivor, I'm just not understanding why progesterone prevented rather than fed the
very cells that helped to form the original tumor.  Or perhaps although those tumor has cells
react positively to progesterone, but progesterone does not make cancer cells grow.


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I had breast cancer in 1989, lumpectomy, radiation and chemo (standard back then even for stage 1).  The tumor was slightly estrogen receptor positive and much more progesterone receptor positive.  At the suggestion of my naturopath, and after having read Dr. Lee's work, I started using bioidentical progesterone cream in 1996.  I get it from a compounding pharmacy and use a very low dose twice a day.  I have not had a recurrence, and it will be 14 years in December, with 17 of those using progesterone cream.  YMMV as they say.


Thats great Cindyt. What is progesterone receptor positive?

Where do you buy yours? I was planning the use the happy pms kind. Do you have any issues with female monthy type of things? I am rounding out my child bearing years and want to use prog.

Chloe, I think npc is effective because it lowers estrogen, and estrogen would be food for cancer. Progesterone rebuilds bone, and helps the body is so many other ways. Estrogen helps you maintain bone, but isnt good in excess. In the monthly cycle, a woman gets a rest from the bad effects of estrogen after ovulation. One problem that arrises is the western diet and food choices often lead to 50% lower progesterone than what is needed.

What side effects do you have if any Cindyt? When I was taking npc after ovulation it made me so tired, but then that may have been the fertility medicines I was taking back then, too.


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