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Chloe
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Ah, Goldie, I now feel sooooo relieved to know that you're making another effort to get a clinic appointment.  

Be assured that you'll never find a more caring group of individuals....doctors and students who will completely understand what you're going through....know with great expertise how to compliment your conventional care. All of them are so smart, they will astound you!

Also know that very few individuals ever get chosen to become shift students.  This privilege belongs
to very few students at this university.

Sending you my very best wishes and continued support!  


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Remember that you are an O, which means a greater chance of recovery.
But, whatever you do, don't delay!
Best wishes to you!!


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Speedy get well wishes heading your way Goldie ((hugs)) xx
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Thanks all for you say.

I was soooo sure that I would not have Moms genes that I never even realized that the lump in my breast is anything more than a cyst.  I felt it 18 month, and felt it getting bigger to where it is one inch, towards the surface of the breast.  

I had taken a mammogram and sonogram last year and basically understood that it was a cyst.....  I am totally GUILTY of not having realized that there could be cancer some other place.  The cancer then might have been 1/8 of on inch... I mean these cancer things are Tiny, Tiny, and can not be 'felt’ by hand. They are often seen as a small darker, freckle.

I have to find out IF the bigger mass, the cyst, is a 'warning' about a cancer growing in some other more hidden spot??? A cyst might be a first warning? ! ! ?   I thought woman have many cysts and the 1. Doctor found many!
I first felt that cyst 18 month ago... from .5.inch (7 millimeter) to now one inch.    

The cancer is now .5 centimeter and is considered rather BIG.  I have no idea where it is, I have no clue about finding it in a breast exam.

I was now told that, had the cancer grown to one inch I would be dead.

All this is new to me…  

I feel rather certain, and was told for certain, that I will be ok.  I have no worries.  

The new mammogram specialist - a 40 year old female - is a no nonsense woman.  I got a second mammogram and sonogram the same day, the MRI for both breast the next (at 10 am she asked me can I be there by 1 pm? I said yes, it would take me two hours to drive there...
The following day I was in touch with the surgeon for a date. Seems when this Lady Doctor speaks, Doctors jump to please her.

I feel very confident also, because my mom survived 4 cancers and died peacefully from a fifth. The rest of my family all survived cancers, mostly malignant skin, (age 20 to 30) and all are ok.  The lesson here is that each of 5 people found the cancer them selves!!!!! By looking and reacting!

Awareness is the key, taking nothing for granted is the door to which it fits. To step into a different world, it requires follow through.  

I will have one day surgery, a lumpectomy and be home in bed by night time.

After casually talking to a German (cancer survivor breast cancer massage therapist, friend, he advised me: To find out IF my shoulder which I injured in February, is NOT healing because the Lymph nodes toward my neck and upper shoulder could be suffering?? I was told to consider that, and speak to the doctor about that.  I will.

The shoulder seems far away, and I would never think of that, I would have thought under the arm pit would be more so... I have no swollen glands.  NO one ever really looked, to my (now) surprise.  Seems under the arm happens much later, as in the days before precise testing was possible.  I guess we now do find things much earlier.

I had seen a breast three times its normal size being carried by a woman as if it was a baby, wondering what she could do with alternative medicines.  She was advised to have it removed, finally.  

I think we still do not really 'know' enough, so I am detailing here, to educate, and to explain it all to my self just as much.

Being soooo certain as I am has its advantages, I have no fear, but it might also have allowed me to wait to long.   Ignorance is NOT bliss. It is rather under-educated to where self reliance is a fault.  

I mean ½ of an eight of on inch - 1 millimeter- that is indeed small.  So all open your eyes to see and 'feel' much more carefully... I will from now on!  

I just shared this with 3 young friends.      






Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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haben wir diese hier auch?? muss mal witer lesen..  


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Lola: this was interesting for diabetes,
http://www.4yourtype.com/WLP_BTD.asp

Is there such a simple link for Cancer? ... With cancer, does it matter if it was removed surgically? is there a before and after surgery supplement link like the above?


Now that I  have cancer, I am taking out all other health considerations in SWAMI
and just check of  Cancer and Diabetes as the only items from family and me.  
(until now I checked off many other things as well.) ---
if the cancer is operated out, do I continue to check off for cancer?

I printed 22 food pages before and after for comparison. Interesting.. there are quite a few Dramatic changes.

I might advise all with cancer in the family to review both lists in Swami (by changing the Profile)

Eggs went from diamonds to just Beneficial.... I eat to many no matter what..
No more diamond cheeses

Wow many changes, yet, I mostly ate only the items in the Cancer & Diab list anyway so I am not going to experience much of a change.    

So possibly in supps I might experience many differences..?


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!

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Beside Swami, add The Omega Diet please!


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What a great download of oils incorporated foods.  Exactly right, more oils! to go to the bathroom.  Three days without and I am struggling again... so easy to combine the differences.

Thanks.

I already eat mostly like that.


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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I have on appointment in October... by then I will have all this 'urgency' behind me.  

I am truly more concerned about my bigger belly (again)... the only good thing about that is; I look ok from the back...; D
I have to work on making my 'heart' related issues better. But for now its one thing at a time.    

I am surprised at how I am not depressed at all.  Must be the Trehalose Complex did its job in my brain... nothing else changed...     I say 'did', because I take it only every so often lately.  Interestingly I am remembering 'better'.  My brain at least co-operates - a nice experience.  

I did eliminate some financial obligations.  Could that have lifted my mood?  I also cleaned out some 'closets' over the last year, all together maybe, is life easier?

I am less searching for the meaning of getting 'old'... Like the label diabetes, it took me a long time accepting it.  I still don't like the consequences of the label... the 'condition' is such a bother.   No matter how MUCH better I am over the years, I still struggle greatly.  I mean, giving up sugar/grain/carbs just is no fun.  Giving up 1 egg (of the 2) a day is near impossible, and fruit?  Well, to a large extent it is something I could eat a long time ago, while now- it comes with so much 'concern' it's nearly not worth the taste any more.

I wonder, does sugar feed cancer?  Immagine if I still ate so much more of it!! Maybe it was worth giving it up!?  


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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After the cancer is surgically removed, you'd still want to keep the "cancer" box checked. There might be microscopic cancer bits that the surgeons missed- you want your body to get rid of those on its own. Also, the tendency towards cancer is still there- whatever allowed this to grow in the first place hasn't been changed, so you want to get to the root of the problem and not let cancer grow again!


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Beside Swami, add The Omega Diet please!

This should not be necessary...  SWAMI is very comprehensive...


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Goldie,
I just saw this thread.  My heart is breaking for you.  I'm with Chloe and Ruthie and urge you to please get in to see Dr. D or one of his associates.  
Don't give up and don't give in!
((((Many, many hugs)))).  I feel like I know you so well after so many years here on the original board and then Thomas's board and then back here again.  
Take care of yourself, please.
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Goldie, increase your intake of a good quality extra virgin olive oil.  Here's why.

Fight breast cancer tumors.  Researchers from the Universitat Autonoma in Barcelona say that olive oil “thwarts the gene that drives the growth of breast cancer tumors, it switches off proteins that the cancer cells rely on in order to grow and multiply and it protects the DNA from damage that can lead to cancer."  In fact, they have shown that molecules in this antioxidant monounsaturated fat actually fight tumors, slowing their growth, in some cases, even causing them to implode.


Promote healing after surgery.  Rub olive oil on incisions to help them heal faster.

http://purehealthyoil.com/recipe/1001-ways-to-use-olive-oil-medical-remedies/

http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice&dbid=132

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/hea.....-attack-tumours.html

It might have helped prevent your diabetes if you had been using a lot of good quality EVOO from the start
http://www.internationaloliveoil.org/estaticos/view/92-olive-oil-and-diabetes

http://www.oliveoiltimes.com/olive-oil-health-benefits

And maybe avoid sugar completely for now.


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This should not be necessary...  SWAMI is very comprehensive...


Oh, hello ABjoe. You are right. (and I love your post too).  Last time my blood tests on 5/3/2013

All numbers are good including white blood cell increase from 3.8 up to 4.2
Also, the book of The Omega Diet says:

“How do omega- 3 fatty acids slow the recruitment of white blood cells?

A key substance that the body uses to recruit white blood cells is called “leukotriene B4” or LTB4.
LTB4 is produced from arachidonic acid, or AA. The more AA in your body. The greater your production of LTB4. Most chronic inflammatory diseases are characterized by an overproduction of LTB4
.
Omega- 3 fatty acids are converted into a related substance called “leukotriene B5 or LTB5. It, too can attract white blood cells, but it is thirty times less effective. If you eat more omega-3 fatty acids and less omega-6 fatty acids, therefore, you are replacing a strong recruiter of white blood cells with a weaker one, reducing your risk of chronic inflammation.”

“How do omega -3 fatty acids fight cancer?

There are a number of theories to explain how omega-3 fatty acids fight cancer. First, it has been shown that omega-3 fatty acids reduce the amount of linoleic acid that tumors withdraw from the bloodstream, denying them a much-needed nutrient. Blunting the cancer-promoting effects of linoleic acid in this manner is known as “competitive uptake”

Second, omega-3 fatty acids compete with omega-6 fatty acids for enzymes that are needed for the creation of cancer-promoting metabolites.

Third, omega-3 fatty acids make cancer cells more vulnerable to free- radical attack by making their membranes less saturated. A cancer cell will die if it sustains sufficient free-radical damage.”

Finally, new research suggests that linoleic acid may help make cancer cells immortal by turning on a gene that prevents automatic cell death. By contrast, omega-3 fatty acids seem to promote the self-destruction of cancer cells, increasing their rate of die-off and thereby slowing overall tumor growth”

I would love to read and I will buy the book by Dr. D soon though (still put money in the jar)

“Cancer: fight it with this blood type diet” and

“Health Library: Menopause”



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All of the Omega 3 - 6 fat information is good support information.  I just wouldn't follow any specific diet information from the book that is one-size-fits-all...

My point with the above quote is that Dr. D., through SWAMI has designed the diet to include the proper levels of each type of fat, etc...

Too much of a good thing is not good either, so a long-term focus on one specific fat over another will possibly lead to deficiency in another area...  

Life is all about balance of many different substances within varying parameters to maintain a properly functioning set of systems...


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your request about sugar intake and ca-feedings... I only can say yes !!! Thatswhy nearly all  well trained therapists go for the same recommendations: avoid all kinds of sugars.... meant here is: slow down all carbs!!!!!!!! Hey Madl they even remarked it publicity last week in Teutonia by docies....ooooh...aaahh... after such a looooooooong period of not .........cooperatings
etc... just by the lack of knowledge called not having been introduced...jöööööö........


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I will follow all good advise here... Thanks and I will respond in a day or so. I am currently taking care of a person with Parkinsons for anothe rweek or so.. .. compared tot hat I am just fine. (this was on old promise I made, but I have great helpers alll around.)

I am fine in any event.. I feel great, my head is on straight, and I am in good standing with all.

Tomorrow I am going to see the surgeon for the firt visit, and the appointment with Dr D is made for October...  I will be rid of this small cancer and the big cyst soon.  

I took a spoon of olive oil tonight and actusally one in the AM as well.. That will keep me going in good order. Very important to take the oil every day...  I agree.. luckily I have been doing so nearly every day since early spring...

See you here by wednesday.  You ALL made my journey much better. Thanks.  
  






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Beside Swami, add The Omega Diet please!


Ahhh…now I realize that what I said was wrong.   When I said “beside(s)” it actually sounded like I was talking about two things at the same time.

I should have said “please eat the foods which have Omaga 3 in your SWAMI food list”.

ABjoe, I am so sorry, please forgive me for my English  

And thank you for mention that  





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ABjoe, I am so sorry, please forgive me for my English  

And thank you for mention that  

No problem...  

I often wonder whether command of the language is the issue when something of this nature occurs.  Another reason to treat everyone with respect and continue to communicate to clear the point.  


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I'm very happy to know you've made an appointment to see Dr. D, Goldie.  


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Horse chestnut
Rehmannia
Horse tail.
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The problem: NAP does not sell them, and we have no store near us.. but maybe by Wednesday I might be in a place where I can buy them.
Any homeopathic/herbalist pharmacy will prepare them for you.



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