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Goldie
Monday, August 13, 2012, 12:05pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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What are some of the struggles with questions of certain foods, or the exchange of foods - all having to do with foods good for whom we ARE today (me diabetic) with health conditions you work on. My biggest question TODAY would be -

What is more harmful as 'my' 3-5 glasses of drinks for the morning?
A- cocoa powder and hot water, leaving the powder as suds or drink it?
B- weak decaf in hot water?  (I like best for diabetes)
C- diluted grapefruit juice in hot water? (I need for Trehalose Complex)
D- all mixed, 1 at a time?

There have to be no answers to this here / just a place to raise a question / when some things are uncertain.. and keep mulling around in the head? Placing questions here might ease the mind or point in a specific direction.



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Averno
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Goldie, I have a question for you (or anyone):

I see that you started BTD/GT 16 years ago, about the same age that my wife is now. She is also a type O gatherer. Do you have any advice or insight you can share with her?

She's been losing weight on BTD/Swami in the year and a half that we've been doing it, but much more slowly than me (AB warrior). We are about equal in terms of (high) compliance, and I know that AB warriors can see unusually fast results, but her results just seem way too slow given the amount of effort we've put into it. Did results come slowly for you at first?

She does feel and look better, but the extra pounds bother her (really in terms of appearance only). She's lost about 20, and needs to lose about 25 more. She walks a mile or so every day, and rebounds about 20 minutes per day as well.

Thanks!
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Goldie
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I lost 20 pounds at the very beginning, after that it was a great struggle to drop more.. takes years..

but I feel better, so I am happy.  I do whatever else I can do to drop weight.. the good thing about all the diets is that WHEN I am compliant, THEN  I do NOT gain..

Keep up the efforts and maybe you find answers that will work..

p/s your wife 16 ???  


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Averno
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Quoted from Goldie

p/s your wife 16 ???  


I might have misinterpreted your age and number of years on the diet.

My wife is 52, and has been on the diet 1-1/2 years. Isn't that the same age you got started? Forgive me for asking, I know I'm on thin ice here.  

If so, I figured your experience might parallel hers. From your above response, it appears to be so.

I should say that aside from being gatherer-figured, she's healthy, happy, and radiant. Aside from possible thyroid issues we're trying to address, and the BIG M, she has no medical complaints. Just wants to lose more weight. Maybe as a gatherer, she's not entitled to "svelte".

Thank you so much for your help. (I'm trying to get her involved in posting for herself, maybe this will do it).
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Jane
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Averno, just in general women lose much slower than men.  One thing that might make a difference for your wife is just the general amount of food, especially carbs.
I've been BTDing since the mid 90s with more or less compliancy at times.  
For Gatherers, it's all about sufficient exercise and higher levels of diet compliance.  
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yaeli
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Quoted from Goldie
What is more harmful as 'my' 3-5 glasses of drinks for the morning?
A- cocoa powder and hot water, leaving the powder as suds or drink it?
B- weak decaf in hot water?  (I like best for diabetes)
C- diluted grapefruit juice in hot water? (I need for Trehalose Complex)
D- all mixed, 1 at a time?

My guess, the one which makes you less happy.



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yaeli
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Quoted from Averno
She does feel and look better, but the extra pounds bother her (really in terms of appearance only). She's lost about 20, and needs to lose about 25 more. She walks a mile or so every day, and rebounds about 20 minutes per day as well.Thanks!
Actually sounds wonderfully sane, balanced, and fruitful!!! I think steadily, softly, and patiently are the best attitude, and the calmer you go about it, the better the diet works. Compliance is so harmonious with Nature, that it is there to stay and to be revealed gradually, not all at once (this goes almost without saying). I've been on BTD/GTD for six and a half years, and I find that compliance doesn't stand in one place, but gets better and goes deeper all the time. I think your wife will continue to lose pounds. It is just that the rate is secondary to the overall healing process, and it is solely up to the body to determine, according to the progress of the healing process. Consider that healing is a lifetime work, and it is the right path, which you have taken anyway.  



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Jane
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Very well put, Yaeli.
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yaeli
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Thanks so much Jane. I don't know if it is just the Gatherer's point of view - which in this case is relevant anyway - or that it applies to more GT's: to regard life rather as a riddle to unfold constantly and continuously, than as a contest (a propos the recent olympics).


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Spring
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Quoted from Jane
Very well put, Yaeli.


Yes, Yaeli has the neatest way of saying things!!


"We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid." -- Benjamin Franklin
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yaeli
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Yes, Yaeli has the neatest way of saying things!!
  


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Averno
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Thank you, Jane. I think your advice is right on. We hadn't considered that women just lose weight more slowly. She is losing weight, after all, so she's moving in the right direction as you, Goldie, pointed out.

And thank you, Yaeli, for your kind words. I'm writing them on a rock...
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Joy
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Averno,

That gesture of "writing them on a rock" is something I feel an artist would do and it is very nice indeed.


Yaeli, your words are becoming immortal.  And, I also need to lose some weight but I feel alot better now and doing it the BTD way is the best way.  Thank you for reminding me.


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Spring
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Joy, my DMIL was a great artist, and her perspective on things always intrigued me! Her skill was sort of repressed for a long time, but when her son and I married I can't help but pride myself on helping her bloom!! Not only on canvas but the way she dressed!! Do you remember the painted skirts that were so popular a long time ago? Hers were adorable! We had such wonderful times... The walls in our home are graced with many displays of her talent.....


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Joy
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Spring,

That is so cool that you helped your MIL express her creativity!  I don't really remember the painted skirts but it sounds like alot of fun.  

I remember "skorts" and they were in some wild colors.

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Spring,That is so cool that you helped your MIL express her creativity!  I don't really remember the painted skirts but it sounds like alot of fun.  I remember "skorts" and they were in some wild colors.Joy

The appliqued skirts came in soon after the painted ones went out. Why don't have we cute stuff like that now!? Clothes are sooo boring for the most part. My DMIL had a navy sport skirt with long-stemmed, white daisies and foliage that she painted. She looked about thirty with it on, and her doctor nearly swooned over it when she went in to see him wearing it! I loved it!


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Joy
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I'd say your MIL was an original and the skirt with the daisies she created would be called

"wearable art"  nowadays.   Very cool.  


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