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Adora
Monday, August 15, 2011, 10:34am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Hi, i'm Adora, o no secretor, explorer
Early Spring: Awareness, desire.
Posts: 21
Gender: Female
Location: France
I everybody,

I know i am o no secretor since 4 years. Since i did the saliva test and knew the results, i know I'm not an hypochondriac. People around do not understand me and think I'm exagerating, i'm paranoiac and unfortunately. But my husband don't, he loves me and learn about me. He is A secretor.
Since I read this forum i know I'm not alone.
I did the genotype tests, i am explorer. Like d'Adamo writes in his Genotype book, i am allergic with coffee, chocolate.
So i follow the genotype diet since one year.
I have some questions:
A no secretor explorer can use make up ?
A no secretor explorer can use sunblock ?
A no secretor explorer can use hair color ?

For lunch, today, i ate quinoa with ghee and ginger,curcuma,basil,zucchinis,onions,paneer, that was delicious.
I make my paneer with raw organic milk and my ghee with organic butter too.

I live in France
Sorry for my english
Thank you all for this forum. It helps a lot !
Bye
Adora


"One cannot think well, love well, sleep well, if one has not dined well." Virginia Woolf

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Hi, Adora!  Your English is much better than my French.    I understood you perfectly well.

I'm an O non-secretor Explorer as well.  There are probably things you can do that I cannot, and vice versa.  That is because we are not only O non-scretor Explorers, but individuals.  You will have to use trial and error to decide what works for you.

I would try to use the most gentle products you can find.  I would think that Explorers would be better off without strong hair dyes and chemicals in derma/topical products.  There are more gentle alternatives.  However, using all natural products may not always be gentler.  I tried using homemade hair wash (baking soda and water) rather than shampoo with sulfates, for example, and I found the baking soda/water irritating and drying to my scalp.  You may have to experiment and see what does and doesn't work for you.

Your lunch sounds great!  Yum!  
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update your profile and tell us a bit more about you Adora.


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Adora
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Hi, i'm Adora, o no secretor, explorer
Early Spring: Awareness, desire.
Posts: 21
Gender: Female
Location: France
Oh hi  
Google translator helps me

For my hair, since six years, i use henna,indigo powders
I don't use make up a lot. if i do, i use organic products. I like to be pretty but also i'm scared of being too reactive.
I use olive oil,karite butter for my skin, organic shampoo or no poo.

And yes, that was delicious, but fats are often a problem. I use artichoke leaves after meal.
And you, what did you eat for lunch ?

Thank you for your message  


"One cannot think well, love well, sleep well, if one has not dined well." Virginia Woolf

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Welcome Adora! I just got my secretor results today, although I've suspected for a long time that I'm a nonnie (non-secretor.)

I don't use hair dye or makeup or sunblock for a variety of reasons, although if I really wanted to wear makeup (say, for a special occasion) I would buy some all-natural makeup in the health food store. I'm an "all natural" kind of woman, and I haven't worn makeup regularly since high school and haven't even shaved my legs or armpits in several years. I don't use any chemical cleaners in my house because I get headaches from the smell of them, and only use all-natural products on my body.

I don't sunburn easily, but I do have some zinc oxide ointment (sold as diaper rash cream) that I use as sunscreen occasionally, if I think I'm going to be in the sun much longer than usual and might burn.  I have a good "base tan" on the body parts I expose (I cover most of my body for religious reasons) so I don't normally burn. I got one sunburn this year, on my shoulders, in the spot near my neck where my bathing suit shirt is looser cut than the shirts I normally wear, and that happened the day we went to the beach around noon instead of around 2:00 or 3:00 PM.

I don't ever plan to dye my hair- I'm already 39 and most people assume I'm older because I have teenagers. I really wouldn't mind if I got a few gray hairs and looked 45 or 50. I'm sure I'd feel differently if I went gray in my 20's.

I used to wash my hair with baking soda and then rinse with apple cider vinegar. However, a few weeks ago I switched to using castille soap on my hair. I still use the apple cider vinegar rinse. I may use the baking soda (sodium bicarbonate) again in the cooler months, I'll see what works best on my hair.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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Adora
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Hi, i'm Adora, o no secretor, explorer
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Location: France
Thank you for your welcome Ruthiegirl !

I'm 37 years old and have a few grey hairs. My husband has grey hairs since 20 years. Grey hairs can be very beautiful.
I also use apple vinegar.
I think i'm gonna use henna and indigo soon.
In my dreams, i've got light pink hair...just in my dreams.
Thank you for your response.


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I've never heard of using indigo on hair.  Does it turn your hair blue?
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Interesting dream about light pink hair. Most of my dreams seem to feature the boys from Big Time Rush hitting on me (and me being around their age)  

I wonder if pink hair could be made "naturally" with something like beet juice on gray or white hair. How cool would it be to have a pink-haired granmda?


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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Hi Adora and welcome. I'm an O nonnie too, and a Hunter/Explorer. I do use shampoos, hair color and make up...but I try to use the safest products I can find...for make-up I use Origins, by Dr Weil. He doesn't use parabens, or pthalates, you can read about his products here: http://www.origins.com/customer_service/aboutus.tmpl#/Landing I also only use a few things, like cleanser and moisturizer, I don't use liquid makeups, just a bit of powder and a touch of blush.

Hemp Organics has some nice lipsticks, that don't contain gluten or soy http://www.iherb.com/Search?kw=hemp+organics#p=2&sr=0

Dr D has a skin care line as well, I haven't tried it yet but I've heard good things about it, you can do a search at the top right and find some threads to read I'm sure. Here is a link to his skincare line: http://www.4yourtype.com/_splash_genoma.asp

I use this shampoo: http://www.iherb.com/Avalon-Organics-Biotin-B-Complex-Thickening-Shampoo-14-fl-oz-400-ml/3477?at=0 my scalp is very sensitive, and this shampoo doesn't cause any irritation, my hair shines and it's gentle enough to use everyday.

As for hair color, I just use the regular stuff but I try to wait as long as I can in between colorings to minimize exposure. I do worry about that but as far as I can tell I have no symptoms. Still I'm sure the henna is better, I've not heard of the indigo?

I don't wear sunscreens.  I live in the Caribbean, and I'm just careful about the hours that I'm in the sun.

Welcome again, I hope this helps...
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Adora
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Hi, i'm Adora, o no secretor, explorer
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Location: France
Quoted from O in Virginia
I've never heard of using indigo on hair.  Does it turn your hair blue?


Indigo is a wonderful alternative if you want to have true dark hair with little blue reflections.It's also called black henna. I use natural indigo that i bought from http://boutique.arcahenna.com/
http://youtu.be/uttd-McrsOE
But indigo is permanent.


"One cannot think well, love well, sleep well, if one has not dined well." Virginia Woolf

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Hi, i'm Adora, o no secretor, explorer
Early Spring: Awareness, desire.
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Gender: Female
Location: France
Quoted from ruthiegirl
Interesting dream about light pink hair. Most of my dreams seem to feature the boys from Big Time Rush hitting on me (and me being around their age)  

I wonder if pink hair could be made "naturally" with something like beet juice on gray or white hair. How cool would it be to have a pink-haired granmda?


Ruthiegirl, what do you mean about your dream,i didn't understand ?  
Beetroot juice, what a beautiful pink color !  
I wonder what indigo+beetroot juice could make on brown hair.



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Adora
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Hi, i'm Adora, o no secretor, explorer
Early Spring: Awareness, desire.
Posts: 21
Gender: Female
Location: France
Quoted from 14428
Hi Adora and welcome. I'm an O nonnie too, and a Hunter/Explorer. I do use shampoos, hair color and make up...but I try to use the safest products I can find...for make-up I use Origins, by Dr Weil. He doesn't use parabens, or pthalates, you can read about his products here: http://www.origins.com/customer_service/aboutus.tmpl#/Landing I also only use a few things, like cleanser and moisturizer, I don't use liquid makeups, just a bit of powder and a touch of blush.

Hemp Organics has some nice lipsticks, that don't contain gluten or soy http://www.iherb.com/Search?kw=hemp+organics#p=2&sr=0

Dr D has a skin care line as well, I haven't tried it yet but I've heard good things about it, you can do a search at the top right and find some threads to read I'm sure. Here is a link to his skincare line: http://www.4yourtype.com/_splash_genoma.asp

I use this shampoo: http://www.iherb.com/Avalon-Organics-Biotin-B-Complex-Thickening-Shampoo-14-fl-oz-400-ml/3477?at=0 my scalp is very sensitive, and this shampoo doesn't cause any irritation, my hair shines and it's gentle enough to use everyday.

As for hair color, I just use the regular stuff but I try to wait as long as I can in between colorings to minimize exposure. I do worry about that but as far as I can tell I have no symptoms. Still I'm sure the henna is better, I've not heard of the indigo?

I don't wear sunscreens.  I live in the Caribbean, and I'm just careful about the hours that I'm in the sun.

Welcome again, I hope this helps...


Hi Linda,
A big thank you for your response

At home, i've got make up from couleur caramel: http://www.belleaunaturel.com/catalog.html
But i don't use them often. I like origins make up i saw on your link.
I'm not happy about shampoos. My hair don't like the last organic one, Biocapilargil-Argile rouge-Dermaclay. I must find an alternative. Your shampoo looks great and is very cheap.
Indigo is a good alternative to have dark hair with little blue reflections. My hair looks very dark after.It's permanent.I buy a natural indigo that is safe for me at Arca boutique.
http://boutique.arcahenna.com/
Bye  


"One cannot think well, love well, sleep well, if one has not dined well." Virginia Woolf

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That Indigo blue black hair is so beautiful, especially when it is natural.  I've always admired that hair color.  I was too fair and with a lot of gold/red in my hair to look good with very dark hair - I know, I tried, with unfortunate results!    Now, I'm silver/gray and I am really enjoying being natural, as I colored my hair for soooo many years.  I've been letting it grow long, too, but it really needs a trim and shaping badly right now, and that is the time I usually go in and impusively ask for a much shorter cut.  I'm going to try to hold out because I'd like to see how long I can grow my hair.  This is just for my own curiosity, to see what my own natural hair will do.

I am having a hard time with shampoos & conditioners lately.  I tried using baking soda & water with the water & apple cider vinegar rinse, but it was so drying to my hair and irritated my scalp.  Then I tried a lighter concentration and that still bothered me.  Then I tried a mix of baking soda, water, a small amount of commercial conditioner and an equal amount of honey.  That was a little better, but still irritating.  Last time I went back to washing my hair with conditioner only and my hair seems happiest on that, but it is still slightly irritating.  So I don't know what's happening with my scalp all around my hairline.  There is no rash, but it feels itchy no matter what I use.  No dandruff, just a sort of irritated feeling.     Rose water is soothing.  I use that for everything, skin toner, skin soother, it makes everything feel better.  
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