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Goldie
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are you ever satiated ever before you are stuffed?

I am so tired of eating something and feeling no satisfaction from it until I am feeling stuffed..

Like after having eaten a dinnerr.. why still look for deserts?  they are always on top of a stuffed diner.. why not hav ethe sesert before and then eat less..



Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Depends on how much food is on my plate.  I do sometimes stop before I finish, but I try not to pile my plate up anyway.  I rarely go back for seconds, although my DH does.  Sometimes he will finish my plate if I don't.  He's a vaccum eater.  If I eat when I'm anxious, then I will stuff myself without even being aware of how I feel, as I'm so absorbed by internal anxieties.  Therefore, I try not to eat when I'm anxious.  And I try to observe portion sizes when I take food on my plate for dinner or lunch.  If I'm still hungry afterward it's usually because I want dessert!     About desserts, I used to get annoyed when dining out with friends and a) they never wanted dessert because they were stuffed, and/or b) I was too full to enjoy dessert.  I always look forward to my sweet treats.  
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I've read it takes 20 minutes to reach satiety...so be careful that you're not eating your
food in 5 minutes, leaving an empty plate and believing you're still hungry.  It's important to eat slowly, chew each mouthful well, and not be doing something else while eating/ (like reading or watching TV which enables the  food to be consumed rather mindlessly.

If I need a dessert, I eat dessert, but I've learned to make it compliant...a gluten free cookie, or
dates or another type of fruit...even a dish of frozen berries (eaten frozen) can be sweet enough
for me since I don't eat any refined sugar.  And a cup (or two) of tea to prolong my meal even
further usually makes my belly feel full.

If I take the time to think about my meal, eat it slowly, I'm usually not finishing everything on my plate and will become full before the meal is over.


"The happiest people don't have the best of everything.....they know how to make the best of everything!"

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I'm a vacuum eater, so my newest goal is to have firsts, wait 20 minutes, then, if I'm still hungry, go back for seconds.


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I'm rarely satisfied no matter how much I eat. I have however discovered that very small (3 oz meat, 1/3 cip veg or SMALL salad) every few hours works better. I'm always hungry in an hour and a half or 2 but actually much hungrier if I eat alot. Seems that if I just "munch" throughout the day my stomach really doesn't feel much of anything, one way or the other, just steady. Otherwise I go from stuffed and bloaty and looking for more and feeling worse. Try not "mealing", maybe it will relax things. It's hard at 1st. I made my usual, then before my first bite, I'd put 1/2 on a plate ands put it in the fridge. Then more in an hour or 2. It really works. NOTHING truely satisfies me but eating less sure stops the stomach issues


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I'm rarely satisfied no matter how much I eat. I have however discovered that very small (3 oz meat, 1/3 cip veg or SMALL salad) every few hours works better. I'm always hungry in an hour and a half or 2 but actually much hungrier if I eat alot. Seems that if I just "munch" throughout the day my stomach really doesn't feel much of anything, one way or the other, just steady. Otherwise I go from stuffed and bloaty and looking for more and feeling worse. Try not "mealing", maybe it will relax things. It's hard at 1st. I made my usual, then before my first bite, I'd put 1/2 on a plate ands put it in the fridge. Then more in an hour or 2. It really works. NOTHING truely satisfies me but eating less sure stops the stomach issues


my sentiments.  you know what I am talking about..  

I am lucky that small portions feel just as full as larger ones,  and I have seldom need for seconds..

I eat protein for breakfast, lunch and dinner, and 2 fruit spread over 4 snacks.. it keeps me going ..

currently I am trying to break some ingrained 'ideas' about the need to chew, and eat foods.. I am giving my gut a time to relax by drinking fluids, protein drinks and or soup during the day.. it seems to be ok (for npow) and in 2 weeks I might be able to change certain 'habits'.. I feel that I suffer from habitual eating patterns more then what is on my plate..

my goal is to be able to say: No I dont need desserts.. even though it 'comes' with the meal..  hahaha    

maybe getting some warm water/tea might be the way to go..  I will try it..



  


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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good point on the soup. i find that to be one of my best tools. usually lunch hour or around 2pm helps keep things in check. I ate a large steak and salad a few weeks back becuase we were going out and I wanted to be FULL and 45 min later I was HUNGRIER than before I ate. What's up with that? it was a good test. Next time I'm packing snacks. It's incredibly frustrating. And chew? what'a that? Isn't that what my stomach is for? Lol. me too, working on it. Good luck


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Soup in the day, and a cup of tea after dinner is a great idea.  I like making quick soups with bone broth and lots of veggies, or just sipping on a cup of bone broth with a pinch of sea salt and ginger.  Very satisfying.  I had a cup of peppermint tea with a teaspoon of agave syrup the other evening, and that kept me from reaching for the trail mix (my snack of choice).  Do you think the sensation of hunger is often really thirst?  I've read that before but never paid much attention.  Lately, I think there's something to that.  The Chinese believe that you should take a hot drink with a meal, never cold because it is upsetting to the digestion.
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YES I Never need to drink.. expet in the morning.. I think I feel hungry  not thirsty.. my mind does not know the difference or is mistaken..  or I dont wait 20 minutes to eat and have a need for the brain to catch up..

Drinking a cup of something 20 minutes before eating will help.. and is better then drinking WITH food as that messes with the digestive juices..

I however dont know if it should be a drink related to the food that will come after.. meaning maybe the broth before meat food.. or juice before desserts.. or tea before vegetables.. Hust meandering here..

there have to be other things we could experiment with.. like adding a liitle oil of sorts to what we drink? or a small portion of protein powder.

NO eating a bigger meal does not work unless it is in the NORMAL ENVIRONMENT.. LIke: I only NEED snackes or desserts when I am out of the house.. meaning : old memories of food and friends.. nothing to do withe the need to eat..

I am for instance able to go out and eat a full meal or leave half over to take home.. but then the question about desserts ... and I have on OVERWHELMING issue with saying no.   ----- I know that part of that is to just prove that I CAN HAVE IT.. prove to others that I have a will of my own.. even knowing that I am self distructive.. or proving that it will not kill me (YET).. knowing full well that the diabetes kicks me in top center and rear.. so why do I do it??????

IT has to do with RE_TRAINING the brain.. like saying .. ok I will drink something pleasureful when I first think of food.. and then slowy cook my normal meal in my small 5 inch pan.. and then be done!

That training has worked in the house .. I am eating half as much as I used to 10 years ago, and I eat only one serving.. I have it easy there is no one else.. but even when I cooked for 2 or many I always cook just right.. I am never afraid to have to add some fruit if there where not enough.. at least one issue I don't have is to over do cooking...  my 2 /9 7/ 5 inch ever smaller pan helped also..

leaving food on the plate is near impossible.. or I eat it 5 minutes later.. stupid.. but I am working on it, becasue wone thing is for sure as you get older you need less and less food to maintain the weight..  

I am pleased witht he responses.. lets try and figure out why those who are gatherers can not make peace with hypoglicemia feelings.. making friends with the enemy.


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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are you ever satiated ever before you are stuffed?

I am so tired of eating something and feeling no satisfaction from it until I am feeling stuffed..

Like after having eaten a dinnerr.. why still look for deserts?  they are always on top of a stuffed diner.. why not hav ethe sesert before and then eat less..

I don't have a big enough plate to hold enough food to make me feel stuffed.  That's assuming the food is compliant.  A big plate of bloating pasta will certainly fill me up.

I've eaten dessert first.  Sure, why not?  But soup and salad are better.

Oops, okay, now that I've understood your question, yes, I can trick myself into feeling satisfied without being stuffed.  The keys are slow, mindful technique of eating, and having something really exciting to do right afterwards.  When I am 100% compliant and eating a balance of wholesome food, I know I don't have to be stuffed to be satisfied.  The food's life force is plentiful and will sustain me, and if I'm not stuffed, more of that food's energy will go to my brain for wellness instead of to my gut for digestion.



My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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I wish I could exchange bodies.. mine is round .. so square might be the answer..  


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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