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I was told that as we get older we remember anything we 'do'.. but forget NOUNS as they are stored in a different part of the brain..

I was entering food I ate in my food new chart and found that I can not remember 2 nouns..(I gave up remembering names a long time ago- just thought I can not do it - forever)

As a diabetic the adds are 50/100%  that I could get alzheimers I heard recently..

OK, but I would have though that it would start much later in life.

I have noticed this loss of RECALLING of nouns as on issue for some months aware that I circumvent using certain words, speaking slower and groping for words.  Now I understand that to be NOUNS!!     Scary as all heck..

I have had some memory issues 'ha-ha-ha' for 15 years- yet I used to attribute it to menopause issues, which NOW I think is just the real beginning of alzheimers... read on.. *

(I feet that brain certain issues are the first sign of meno setting in, long before the end of mensis.)

I still taste peppermint so I am still OK, (there was a list someplace about tasting 7 items as a test for Alzheimers.    Peppermint is one of them..  

I am currently on the weight loss suplement regimen but I know what I will go for in two month.. I have realised just now what is going on...  but there is something I can do.  Prevent further damage will be important!  If there is such a thing.. I think there is* read on.  

* Diabetes is the issue here - no doubt about that. * I think what is going on is the following..

The first signs of diabetes coming on (or being here) is seen EARLY in getting leg cramps, or pain from nerve tissue that gets hyperactive in the feet, showing up with hand/leg twitching movement at night.  The name for that is Poli-Neuropathy.  Poli meaning all- over the body-nerve death..  (Medical advertizers call it Restless Leg Syndrome or some other thing having to do with circulation or Periferal Artery Disease.. )  

Ok so far I was wondering what that really means.. well I guess now I call it early warnings about alzheimers.. another word for nerve death.. for me right now  VISBLE by the inability to ACTIVATE nerve functions that RECALL nouns...

These are all conjectures on my part.. what do you think?? is this worth a thread here??  


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Hi Goldie,

Sorry to know you are going through worries.

Try: http://www.lumosity.com They are brain exercises. For me the brain is like a muscle. If one does not exercise it it atrophies. Perhaps you can slower the process.

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heck yes I will slower the process.. this would be the newst self discovery .. but indeed the musckles and Nerve issues they come on way early and might be warning signs, not of diabetes but of alzheimers!  now that would be a discovery..


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Goldie I was getting info for the woman who child has diabetes and saw this.

Suggest you read in detail at least twice[color=red][/color] if your having problems with your memory, perhaps that why you never listen to me

http://www.health-science-spirit.com/HF4-3.html#Sweet_Food


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Goldie, do you take any fish oil or krill oil?


"For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well." Psalm 139:13,14
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PC I will read it twice.. no doubt about it..

no I dont take crill oils.. nothing for now other then the 8 sups for the next 2 month I am already taking.. after that I will look further.. some smell of fish -- need to hold my breath to swallow them..

I am however much more impressed by the nerve connection to the brain.. in neuropathy.. that is hot stuff.. it could be on early warning -not of diabetes but- actual brain damage (eventually).. (way, way  before it sets in, in older age)

The interesting thing for this moment is that I still don't remember the one noun/name of a food that brought me here..    that is serious!

By the way I am (FOR NOW) looking at this as rather humerous. . I mean the reality of it would be tragic..  


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Hey I wan't to know what you think about my proposition??


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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My father had Alzheimer's and my mother experienced some degree of senility toward the end of her life.  The difference, as I was told at the time:

In regular memory loss, a person may forget where they left their keys, what their friend's name is, whether or not they took their vitamins . .

With Alzheimer's a person might not know what the keys are; they might think their friend is their grandmother who had been dead for 20 years; they might think the vitamins are poison that a spy is using to try and kill them.

A person who is senile might forget if they went to the bathroom or not.
Someone with Alzheimer's might think the T.V. is the toilet, and urinate on it.

It's not just an issue of memory.  Everything gets scrambled.



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What proposition ? lol


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Ditto with Victoria, panic for common things, allucinations are common in Alzheimer's disease, my diabetic grandmother died totally clear in her mind 88 years old, no Alzheimer but she was very compliant to avoid sugar and too much carbos since 50 or 55 years old.. The grandgrandmother died 60 or something abusing sugar and carbos. This on my father side.
My mother has Alzheimer's being not overweight and not diabetic, but her cousins seems ready on the same path poor them,
a big hug and believe you can fight it Goldie !


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wenn ich fliehen will dann fliehe ich... das ist meine *prosposition* ... nix mehr nor less... tssskk.................... ...


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That's all true before Alzheimer get you, if it catch you, I feel there is not a lot to do.


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try alternating some protocols given in the aging book, to build up your cognitive system
also the online protocol, compare with those in the book


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Lola :.. that is what I will do..

ALL: BUT my idea that the nerve damage  may show the way is what I am bringing forth.. I think that is the question I have been asking for some time.. actually what is the cause of diabetes.. not just the sugar but all related topics to go with it..

Sugar fluctuations issues is one among twenty..  I am certain early nerve damage is one of them.. so preventing it ( or at least recognizing it for what t is.. severe longterm consequences.. ) is the key ..

Victoria:.. that was a good explanation.. thanks..

and while I am (not fippened) but so so serous about me.. I am serious about feeling for all who have to deal with mental issues or diabetics.. all suffer..

I would like to know how many that have alzheimer, had nerve twitching or sleeplessnes or restlessness long before they got mental simptoms..  .      


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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impressed by the nerve connection to the brain.. in neuropathy


and don t underestimate the gut, our second brain, so to speak.....it is all connected,
and the thyroid.......and so on.....


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Goldie instead of looking for something you MIGHT get down the road why don't you FOCUS on a POSITIVE attitude.

I remember everything I need to remember.
I keep my brain active daily.
I read and comprehend daily.
I am controlling my diabetes.

Use I statements like above and believe them.  Don't say I will remember that is in the future, say I remember, that is in the present, and you brain will get that message.

When I was walking using a walker, my physical therapist, taught me to do this. Even though I was using a walker.  I said outloud every hour or two.  I am walking with my cane.  and soon I was.  Then I changed it to "I am walking on my own"  and soon I did and continue to do that.  Right now, I am focusing on standing for longer periods of time without feeling the pain I have. I am still working on that one, but I'm trying.  I am not in pain when I am standing for awhile.  (that is my sentence.  

Try and see if it helps you.  I know it will, if you do it.
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Right now, I am focusing on standing for longer periods of time without feeling the pain I have. I am still working on that one, but I'm trying.  I am not in pain when I am standing for awhile.  (that is my sentence).

The problem with your "Pain" sentence is that you have a negative (not) in it...  The brain doesn't process the "not" properly...  Try to not think about an elephant.  You will always come up with the elephant picture...

Change the sentence to something like "I am comfortable after standing for long periods."  I think you'll have greater success.


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Thank You AB JOE   you are right  I will change it to

"I am pain free when standing"

that should do it.
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The brain Thinking part is easy to change.   I agree with the above whole heartedly..
Yet: The 'structure' (bones and tissue) of the body and brain never forgets unless one deals with it....

The PHYSICAL brain is a challenge that hinges on first 'recognizing' that it might be 'mal' forming or losing its ability to function properly.

My first post was written after I digested several factors such as (still) not remembering that one noun-- you would know the answer but I am forcing my brain to come up with it on it's own-- UNTIL JUST NOW.. a second ago it came up with the word!!!!!!  as I am typing this sentence ::ALSAMIC vinegar..  

OK.... having solved that mistery.. I am not talking about my feeling doomed.. even though I might be-- but that is for later--  WHAT I am proposing is that Neuropathy actually, POLI-neropathy is on issue that people feel much earlier than is paid attention to.  One thinks of feet or hands with cramping, burning pain or feeling numb in those areas..   I AM proposing that POLI, meaning all over, is the issue here and should not be overlooked by anyone.

IF as I am supposing, that nerve damage is ONE of the early signs of diabetes, or the early effects of sugar imbalances, then it ought to be looked at as something to be dealt with in much more direct understanding of its implication -that- the BRAIN (which we basically have no feeling in, IS ALSO potentially affected by the same effects of (eventually) certain parts 'numbing' also.  

The brain STRUCTURE is a fluid thing.  Obviously as Geminisue is pointing out, use it or lose it!.. and using our body and thinking might well be one aspect of exercising brain muscles.. but first the muscles have the opportiunity to be in good physical 'shape'.

So chicken or the egg .. statistically the alzheimers connection to diabetes is enormous.. !!! YES! .... OR is the early damage from POLI-NEUROPATHY, contributing to alzheimers?? in a much bigger way then diabetes, by aFFECTING THE STRUCTURE OF THE BRAIN!

Look, I am way out of my league here, but recognizing on ISSUE is half the cure.  LIKE for instance in this situation, after this 2 month for which I chose to spend a great deal of cash on certain suplements, I will deffinitly look forward to dealing with the NERVE damage connections, comes the end of April.  The connections from brain to heart, from brain to pancreas, pancreas to the intestines, and from intestines back to the brain is what I am intent on repairing- dealing with the potential structural damage, or in the very least,  prevent further structural nerve damage.

I happen to have mechanical equipment, that when I use it, can and does make a great difference in Neuropaty, takes away the pain, reduces that pain to nothing, corrects muscle function and has in the past stopped or reversed nerve burning, twitching, and creeping numbness.  I am lucky that way.. I bought the -neuro- bio(body) feed back equipment years ago, for helping other peolpe, but today IT serves ME best by preventing all those symptoms form getting worse, and reversing some as well.

I have seen reversals of enormous swollen feet and legs, back to their regular size, once again showing the calf and shin bones.. I have seen stagnent blood vessels (all dark blue) nealy dissapear with the equipment, and so I know it works in cases much worse then what I reasilze I might be facing.  

I realised this (for ME ) the other evening -- after someone mentioned the issue with not remembering NOUNS!! and the much highr connections then expected, between diabetes and BRAIN issues / specifc alzheimers.

I forgot two Nouns that first night, one is not important, but the 'Vinegar' is importnat.. as it just slipped my mind again for 5 seconds again.. Balsamic ..   is a noun .. and that is what is important.  What is importnat is that I see the POTENTIAL in fixing some of this BRAIN issue..along with the feet.   BUT ONLY NOW since I recognized IT as on issue worth actively dealing with!!

This for me is not a doomsday scenario--  but one to look at positively! and for me even with a little humor.. because if I really felt doomed I would be crushed.. but instead I am sharing this 'thinking' with my late night meandering mind,  that we can do something about so many things .. why not this.. !

The encyclopedia will be of enormous help, but I have not looked at it yet.

--- I am stunned at how fast the weight and acid reflux supplements from DPN are helping me.. I have been on them for a short two weeks and I am remarkably better.  I slept a whole night without waking up for hours (other then bathroom visits.) I have not done so for many years!  This morning after I got up I checked my pulse -- and while it may be early morning, never the less it is much slower then the usual racing around 90 beats per minute.  So you see, IF I recognize what I need to do then I and (others)  like me have THE best opportiunity from here and DPN to make good.

Now if only spellcheck would work on this loaner computer then I would be better of already...  
    


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alzheimners often is induced by intoxications, merely metallic-ones... so far...
but the question of diabetic neuropathies is one to come along with....yup ....

affirmations really work fine .........


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ha metal you say...

I worked 10 years with row mercury on my fingers.. I had mercury fillings from age 2.5 til 57, I needed root canals in all my teeth, exept 6, I had 6 metal crowns for 30 years, and then 6 teeth implants for 10 years in titanium and gold crowns over 20 teeth.. and then a hip replacement in titanium..with gold copings and plastic crowns over all that......  Metal you say. . oh yes indeed. .  and there is nothing I can do about but understand-

so what ever else I am doing is just window dressing .. I wish I was not so willing to spend whatever it took to make my teeth stay in my mouth, instead had gone on vacation with all the thousands, or pay for a house,.

I think some of my dentists needed new cars every so often..  


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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for alzheimers the key-word is or better said might be la causa mercury... and yup malheureusement... the fillings for teeth....
but you can do in prevention with aminoacids, herbs and orthomolecular stuffs from the finest and jaou that works amazingly,  but you've to proceed constantly... and in the right amounts.... please have an eye into the canadian's they 're justamente great in their results as well.... from Isa


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The Neuro- nerve connection is a big one.. There are so many who suffer 10 years before the diabetes label surfaces.. I wonder could we avoid some of the diabetes progress if we treated every thing we suffer with FOOOOOOOD!  for years in advance of getting full blown illnesses..

after all we do refresh our body?? why not nerve damage??  not with pills but FOOD good for nerves.. THIS ought to be a big topic here..  


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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btw. boswellia serrata is a fine tip for brain,nerve and other issues .... dito pancreati-ones.... google it and you'll be astonished what's all about it from Isa


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